Toho Sci-Fi Films you haven't seen
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Man if you haven't watched The Human Vapor yet you're missing out. It's legit one of the best films I've ever seen. It's not as allegorical as Godzilla but it's easily Honda's second best science fiction films and comes pretty close to it.
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This. I never really see anyone talk about this one on these forums.Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:Man if you haven't watched The Human Vapor yet you're missing out. It's legit one of the best films I've ever seen. It's not as allegorical as Godzilla but it's easily Honda's second best science fiction films and comes pretty close to it.
Really love the characterizations and atmosphere, personally to me, the emotion is done far better than most of the other Toho Sci-Fi flicks.
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Been catching up on alot of these that I've so far missed. Just saw Matango and Dogora. Matango was alot of fun and Dogora wasn't one of the best but I quite liked it. Really unique kaiju and I like the mix of kaiju and crime thriller.
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Matango is one of Toho's best despite that strange part with the disappearing mushroom man.cloverfan98 wrote:Been catching up on alot of these that I've so far missed. Just saw Matango and Dogora. Matango was alot of fun and Dogora wasn't one of the best but I quite liked it. Really unique kaiju and I like the mix of kaiju and crime thriller.
Dogora is a bit of a slog to get through. And not nearly enough of the monster
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I find Dogora a ton of fun. Love everything with Inspector Kommei and Mark Jackson, and everything with the quirky gangsters.Godzilla21 wrote:Dogora is a bit of a slog to get through. And not nearly enough of the monster
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The characters just aren't interesting enough to me to hold interest.eabaker wrote:I find Dogora a ton of fun. Love everything with Inspector Kommei and Mark Jackson, and everything with the quirky gangsters.Godzilla21 wrote:Dogora is a bit of a slog to get through. And not nearly enough of the monster
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Is it odd that I agree with you both? The characters aren't new at all but I like the constant backstabbing and switching sides. Also the few shots we get of Dogora hovering over different cities were awesome.Godzilla21 wrote:The characters just aren't interesting enough to me to hold interest.eabaker wrote:I find Dogora a ton of fun. Love everything with Inspector Kommei and Mark Jackson, and everything with the quirky gangsters.Godzilla21 wrote:Dogora is a bit of a slog to get through. And not nearly enough of the monster
Mantango was good but didn't quite hit the mark for me but I want to see it again. The vanishing mushroom man was odd. Although he shows up later he acts like a ghost and there's also that Ghost ship one of the characters sees before they reach the island. Also why did it take so long for the original ship's crew to appear and attack the new people? I'm not questioning the pace of the film that worked fine for me, I just didn't get why the Matangos waited to attack till the very end.
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Prophecies of Nostradamus.
I need to see it.
I need to see it.
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You do. It's a strange, wonderful movieGojiDude95 wrote:Prophecies of Nostradamus.
I need to see it.
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Would you know where I can own a copy of this movie? I have had no luck on ebay.Godzilla21 wrote:You do. It's a strange, wonderful movieGojiDude95 wrote:Prophecies of Nostradamus.
I need to see it.
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There are no official home video releases of Nostradamus. If you want a physical copy you're stuck with bootlegs that take their video from a cancelled VHS release. You might as well download it somewhere online.
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The American release, The Last Days of Planet Earth, was officially released in the US on VHS and Laserdisc. That’s your best legal bet to seeing any of the movie, even though the US version is re-edited from an already flawed edited export version.
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Ya you really want to see the original Japanese version. I sent you a PM GojiDude95
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Prophecies of Nostradamus is one of my least favorite Toho movies. I think a lot of the hoopla around it stems from its obscurity. I first saw the "butchered" US version on AMC in 2000. Thanks to the now-long-dead Tohotopia website I knew it was a Toho production so I recorded it expecting something more in line with the Godzilla or kaiju movies I'd seen. Of course it's nothing like that. In fact, it's so weird that it freaked me out (also probably because I was young). When I was older and knew that it had been pulled by Toho I really built it up in my head as this awesome movie, even after finally obtaining the three major versions (114 minute theatrical release, the ~90 minute export version, and UPA's 88 minute TV hackjob). Eventually I developed some taste and I've turned it off every time I've tried to watch the Japanese version since. Submersion of Japan, Toho's first big disaster film, is probably more conventionally boring -lacking giant slugs and freeway explosions and mutated humans- but it's a better dramatic film. I think Toho got carried away with the success of that film and tried to one-up it by pulling out all the stops with Nostradamus. To me the major difference is that while Submersion has a strong Sakyo Komatsu story about Japanese identity, Nostradamus is just a shoddy exploitation film that takes itself much too seriously. I mean if you want the same dramatic story in PON done with some class just watch The Last War. That's an overrated movie too (way too melodramatic) but it's far less tasteless and absurd and has stronger special effects.
If I ever have a PON itch I'll watch The Last Days of Planet Earth. It's the shortest version, it retains all the big SFX scenes, and the new narration and inane editing make it a more entertaining WTF experience for me. Basically I only show it to friends that want to watch something "really weird." They get a kick out of it.
If I ever have a PON itch I'll watch The Last Days of Planet Earth. It's the shortest version, it retains all the big SFX scenes, and the new narration and inane editing make it a more entertaining WTF experience for me. Basically I only show it to friends that want to watch something "really weird." They get a kick out of it.
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Have, but not watched:
- Dogora
- The Mysterians
- Battle in Outer Space
- The H-Man
- The Return of Godzilla (I've seen 1985 countless times but never the original Japanese version)
- Latitude Zero
Don't own, never seen:
- The Secret of the Telegian
- The Human Vapor
- The Last War
- Submersion of Japan
- Bloodthirsty Trilogy
- The Three Treasures
- ESPY
- The War in Space
- Sayonara Jupiter
- Gunhed
- Princess from the Moon
I'm currently watching PON for a school paper and it's alright so far. The lead scientist is really enjoyable to watch and I'm a fan of the drab, downer atmosphere. Script leaves something to be desired, I feel like half the time it's just people saying bad things will happen to the Earth if we don't stop pollution, save the environment, etc.
- Dogora
- The Mysterians
- Battle in Outer Space
- The H-Man
- The Return of Godzilla (I've seen 1985 countless times but never the original Japanese version)
- Latitude Zero
Don't own, never seen:
- The Secret of the Telegian
- The Human Vapor
- The Last War
- Submersion of Japan
- Bloodthirsty Trilogy
- The Three Treasures
- ESPY
- The War in Space
- Sayonara Jupiter
- Gunhed
- Princess from the Moon
I'm currently watching PON for a school paper and it's alright so far. The lead scientist is really enjoyable to watch and I'm a fan of the drab, downer atmosphere. Script leaves something to be desired, I feel like half the time it's just people saying bad things will happen to the Earth if we don't stop pollution, save the environment, etc.
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Princess from the Moon is an interesting one. An older Mifune and Yasuko Sawaguchi (who still looks great btw, look her up). Also Peter Cetera!!
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I just wish Filmstruck hadn't gone belly up, otherwise I would've checked it out.
Oh well, there's always the possibility of a Criterion release or the good ol' torrent machine.
Oh well, there's always the possibility of a Criterion release or the good ol' torrent machine.
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Criterion is starting up another on demand service next year, it might be put up on there and easily available again. Not sci-fi but if Jun Fukuda's Goldeneyes and Ironfinger are available as well they're worth a watch too.
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I liked Ironfinger! It’s funny seeing similarities in some of the action IN Ebirah Horror of the deep and GVMG As well as very similar aesthetics.Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:Criterion is starting up another on demand service next year, it might be put up on there and easily available again. Not sci-fi but if Jun Fukuda's Goldeneyes and Ironfinger are available as well they're worth a watch too.
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I've owned a copy of Atragon for months now and still haven't watched it. I've been waiting for my brother to come over to watch it with him (he loves Manda) but he hasn't had the time.
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