The Most Evil Kaiju?
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Who is the most evil strange creature in the Godzilla franchise? - Also considering the three villians of the Toho distributed Gamera trilogy.
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Godzilla 1954- He was mutated and brought into a world that wasn't his and was getting attacked.
King Ghidorah (Showa)- Not evil per se since he is mind controlled most of the time.
Hedorah- A byproduct of humanities utter ignorance of pollution
Gigan-A tortured creature that had cybernetic implants and forced to fight even though it was a chicken.
Terror Beasts-Dont know what the hell these are so maybe.
Mechagodzilla (Showa)- It wasn't a living creature but controlled by aliens so it itself is not evil since it isn't a living being.
Orochi (Heisei)- All in the vein of a family squabble that gave rise to him, the fault of others s by product of circumstance so not evil.
Spacegodzilla-Imagine gaining sentience all of a sudden and your only objective is find your clone and kill it and having old memories of a past life that wasn't yours is enough to make anyone seem evil, again, a byproduct of circumstance.
Destoroyah- A mutation from the fault of man and it's ignorance and arrogance playing with weapons they don't fully understand.
Desghidorah- A prehistoric creature that was surviving like anything else in those times, it was a dog eat dog world.
Gyaos (Heisei)-Again, created by humanity and them trying to play God and not understand what the Hell they were doing.
Dagarah- Here we go again, created by humans because they tried playing God's
Iris-An excuse for tentacle porn in a Gamera movie.
Grand King Ghidorah- Dude was just hungry, kaiju gotta eat.
Orga- An alien life form that crash landed and all of a sudden woke up with people literally up his ass and Canon hole how would anyone react to that? Not being fucking nice I tell you what.
Godzilla (GMK)-Here we go again...humans, dead human souls that was part of a WW and just being spiteful they lost, sore losers MF'ers
Monster X-A wasted potential that was controlled yet again.
Trilopods- don't know what the hell these are
Skullcrawlers- They were ripped from their homes while having a pair monkeys try to kill them.
MUTO Prime- A survivor, trying to survive against a creature that kills it's kind for existing.
King Ghidorah (Legendary)- An alien that just wants friends in a place that isn't his home. But yeah, he's evil "eyeroll"
Void God Ghidorah- We don't talk about these movies ever
Godzilla Earth- They blasted him with every nuclear bomb you think he'd play nice, then, these stupid humans come back starting crap again.
Godzilla Ultima- Man, fuck this mighty morphing power kaiju
Mechagodzilla (Legendary)- A dead brain being taken from it's organic self, manipulated and revived to help humanity from the same being that protected them and still having the memories of this creature literally disintegrate your ass you'd be passed too.
So in short,
The most evil is Humanity.
But if I have to choose then I choose
Dagarah, it tried to kill Lil kids thinking they were the equivalent of trash in the ocean, the bastard.
King Ghidorah (Showa)- Not evil per se since he is mind controlled most of the time.
Hedorah- A byproduct of humanities utter ignorance of pollution
Gigan-A tortured creature that had cybernetic implants and forced to fight even though it was a chicken.
Terror Beasts-Dont know what the hell these are so maybe.
Mechagodzilla (Showa)- It wasn't a living creature but controlled by aliens so it itself is not evil since it isn't a living being.
Orochi (Heisei)- All in the vein of a family squabble that gave rise to him, the fault of others s by product of circumstance so not evil.
Spacegodzilla-Imagine gaining sentience all of a sudden and your only objective is find your clone and kill it and having old memories of a past life that wasn't yours is enough to make anyone seem evil, again, a byproduct of circumstance.
Destoroyah- A mutation from the fault of man and it's ignorance and arrogance playing with weapons they don't fully understand.
Desghidorah- A prehistoric creature that was surviving like anything else in those times, it was a dog eat dog world.
Gyaos (Heisei)-Again, created by humanity and them trying to play God and not understand what the Hell they were doing.
Dagarah- Here we go again, created by humans because they tried playing God's
Iris-An excuse for tentacle porn in a Gamera movie.
Grand King Ghidorah- Dude was just hungry, kaiju gotta eat.
Orga- An alien life form that crash landed and all of a sudden woke up with people literally up his ass and Canon hole how would anyone react to that? Not being fucking nice I tell you what.
Godzilla (GMK)-Here we go again...humans, dead human souls that was part of a WW and just being spiteful they lost, sore losers MF'ers
Monster X-A wasted potential that was controlled yet again.
Trilopods- don't know what the hell these are
Skullcrawlers- They were ripped from their homes while having a pair monkeys try to kill them.
MUTO Prime- A survivor, trying to survive against a creature that kills it's kind for existing.
King Ghidorah (Legendary)- An alien that just wants friends in a place that isn't his home. But yeah, he's evil "eyeroll"
Void God Ghidorah- We don't talk about these movies ever
Godzilla Earth- They blasted him with every nuclear bomb you think he'd play nice, then, these stupid humans come back starting crap again.
Godzilla Ultima- Man, fuck this mighty morphing power kaiju
Mechagodzilla (Legendary)- A dead brain being taken from it's organic self, manipulated and revived to help humanity from the same being that protected them and still having the memories of this creature literally disintegrate your ass you'd be passed too.
So in short,
The most evil is Humanity.
But if I have to choose then I choose
Dagarah, it tried to kill Lil kids thinking they were the equivalent of trash in the ocean, the bastard.
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Don't wanna be the 'um actually' guy but technically the souls of GMK Goji won the war, since they fought against the Japanese.
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MV Ghido is probably as blatantly evil as it gets for the character. He doesn't seem to have other motives than terraforming a planet to his liking and probably murdering everyone else in the process and he seems to find enough time to mess with a little kid just because he can. Grand is right behind him with the whole feasting on souls of kidnapped children thing, but as goji89 said it can also be observed as just him being hungry.
Let's face it, the only thing Toho truly considers to be evil is more than likely that uncut version of "Half Human" they try desperately to bury
Let's face it, the only thing Toho truly considers to be evil is more than likely that uncut version of "Half Human" they try desperately to bury
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Gyaos and Destoroyah take the cake.
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SpaceGodzilla instantly decided to commit patricide and take over the Earth the instant he gained a mind, and also destroyed multiple worlds on his way to the Earth, presumably just for shits and giggles. Destoroyah was just a colony of microbes trying to survive and eliminate any possible threats.
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ShinGojira14 wrote: Neither. Hideki Anno wins because he writes a hilarious comedic satire movie where Shin and Legendary have to team up to destroy a grotesque crap-monster created by the constant toxic bickering of Shin fans and Legendary fans.
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He did?GodzillavsRayquaza wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:55 am SpaceGodzilla... also destroyed multiple worlds on his way to the Earth
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I mixed up the manga adaption and the actual movie in my head, my bad, the Cosmos say he destroyed multiple planets in the manga and I misremembered it as being in the actual movie.Terasawa wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:00 amHe did?GodzillavsRayquaza wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:55 am SpaceGodzilla... also destroyed multiple worlds on his way to the Earth
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ShinGojira14 wrote: Neither. Hideki Anno wins because he writes a hilarious comedic satire movie where Shin and Legendary have to team up to destroy a grotesque crap-monster created by the constant toxic bickering of Shin fans and Legendary fans.
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Yup, my dad works at Legendary, the Nebulans are gonna be in the next movie and they're gonna get beat because Madison throws coffee in the leaders face.
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Yeah, I was about to ask when did he do that in such a short matter of time going straight to Earth.
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GMK Godzilla and MV Ghiorah are the only Kaiju off the top of my head that, on top of wide spread destruction, go out of their way to specific kill individuals just for the sake of it. But I personally slide the favor in favor of MV Ghidorah just cause its motive and overall goal is total domination and death to everything in its way where as GMK Godzilla has a more "sympathetic" core given the forgotten vengeful spirits angle. Plus it did cause more wide-spread suffering to its setting.
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Out all on the list, I'd say the top five most evil motherfu**ers in the Kaiju pantheon are Showa King Ghidorah, Grand King Ghidorah, SpaceGodzilla, Destoroyah, and Showa Gigan.
Gigan was a hand-clapping sadist who loved slicing poor fu**s open and cackling while he watched them spurt blood.
Showa King Ghidorah wiped out entire planets for fu**s and giggles.
Grand King Ghidorah was literally that but added taking his time to round up and boil kidnapped children alive while he watched and absorb their souls to the list.
SpaceGodzilla immediately decided to commit mass genocide and galactic domination the moment he was born.
Destoroyah immediately decided he wanted to torment, torture and destroy everyone and everything until he was the only one left the moment he was created.
If I had to add a sixth it'd definitely be Showa Hedorah. Dude was a sadistic prick who shat on everyone in sight and giggled like a gremlin snorting gas all the while.
Gigan was a hand-clapping sadist who loved slicing poor fu**s open and cackling while he watched them spurt blood.
Showa King Ghidorah wiped out entire planets for fu**s and giggles.
Grand King Ghidorah was literally that but added taking his time to round up and boil kidnapped children alive while he watched and absorb their souls to the list.
SpaceGodzilla immediately decided to commit mass genocide and galactic domination the moment he was born.
Destoroyah immediately decided he wanted to torment, torture and destroy everyone and everything until he was the only one left the moment he was created.
If I had to add a sixth it'd definitely be Showa Hedorah. Dude was a sadistic prick who shat on everyone in sight and giggled like a gremlin snorting gas all the while.
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Hedorah, easily. Whatever he was up to, it was clear he enjoyed murdering every human he came across, and it even looked like he was planning to make Godzilla's death slow as he could.
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And this is based on what exactly? He was genetically enhanced and I assume had his characteristics modified for the sake of his masters and was probably programmed to be unforgiving in their wanting conquests.ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 am Out all on the list, I'd say the top five most evil motherfu**ers in the Kaiju pantheon are Showa King Ghidorah, Grand King Ghidorah, SpaceGodzilla, Destoroyah, and Showa Gigan.
Gigan was a hand-clapping sadist who loved slicing poor fu**s open and cackling while he watched them spurt blood.
Where was this stated he did it for fun? A being of unknown origin that was basically mind controlled nearly the entire series is this big bad evil incarnate creature? As told by untrustworthy aliens that wanted to conquer Earth?ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 am Showa King Ghidorah wiped out entire planets for fu**s and giggles..
Taking his time? Similar to how we cook our meals? Again, a creature has to eat similar to how we butcher our cows, pigs, chickens etc, etc so then we humanity as a whole are evil incarnate.ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 am Grand King Ghidorah was literally that but added taking his time to round up and boil kidnapped children alive while he watched and absorb their souls to the list..
As I recall he just went after Godzilla the same way Biollante called out to Godzilla. In their abstract minds beings creatures humanity knows little about them as SG wants to be the only Godzilla. A lot to unpack their mentally.ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 am SpaceGodzilla immediately decided to commit mass genocide and galactic domination the moment he was born..
Torment and torture? It's a mutated creature that attacked G Jr because he came to it, as with any territorial creature it will defend itself.ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 am Destoroyah immediately decided he wanted to torment, torture and destroy everyone and everything until he was the only one left the moment he was created..
Created as a symbol for pollutionShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 am If I had to add a sixth it'd definitely be Showa Hedorah. Dude was a sadistic prick who shat on everyone in sight and giggled like a gremlin snorting gas all the while.
Lol
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1. Fair.goji89 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:51 pmAnd this is based on what exactly? He was genetically enhanced and I assume had his characteristics modified for the sake of his masters and was probably programmed to be unforgiving in their wanting conquests.ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 am Out all on the list, I'd say the top five most evil motherfu**ers in the Kaiju pantheon are Showa King Ghidorah, Grand King Ghidorah, SpaceGodzilla, Destoroyah, and Showa Gigan.
Gigan was a hand-clapping sadist who loved slicing poor fu**s open and cackling while he watched them spurt blood.
Where was this stated he did it for fun? A being of unknown origin that was basically mind controlled nearly the entire series is this big bad evil incarnate creature? As told by untrustworthy aliens that wanted to conquer Earth?ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 am Showa King Ghidorah wiped out entire planets for fu**s and giggles..
Taking his time? Similar to how we cook our meals? Again, a creature has to eat similar to how we butcher our cows, pigs, chickens etc, etc so then we humanity as a whole are evil incarnate.ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 am Grand King Ghidorah was literally that but added taking his time to round up and boil kidnapped children alive while he watched and absorb their souls to the list..As I recall he just went after Godzilla the same way Biollante called out to Godzilla. In their abstract minds beings creatures humanity knows little about them as SG wants to be the only Godzilla. A lot to unpack their mentally.ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 am SpaceGodzilla immediately decided to commit mass genocide and galactic domination the moment he was born..Torment and torture? It's a mutated creature that attacked G Jr because he came to it, as with any territorial creature it will defend itself.ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 am Destoroyah immediately decided he wanted to torment, torture and destroy everyone and everything until he was the only one left the moment he was created..Created as a symbol for pollutionShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 am If I had to add a sixth it'd definitely be Showa Hedorah. Dude was a sadistic prick who shat on everyone in sight and giggled like a gremlin snorting gas all the while.
Lol
2. The Venusian Spirit said that. They experienced it first hand.
3.Fair.
4.Fair.
5. I wouldn’t call Dessy a “territorial creature”.
6. Hard Agree.
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Venus was home to a vast and heavily-developed ecosystem, complete with an advanced intelligent race of its own, the Venusians. King Ghidorah appeared from space and attacked the planet, eventually wiping out all life.
Doesn't mean it did it for turds and giggles. Maybe it's the universes way of balancing it out, since nature isn't inherently evil, it was a very intelligent race maybe too much for it's own good.
Life finds a way to keep balance.
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Ghidorahanos.goji89 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:39 pmVenus was home to a vast and heavily-developed ecosystem, complete with an advanced intelligent race of its own, the Venusians. King Ghidorah appeared from space and attacked the planet, eventually wiping out all life.
Doesn't mean it did it for turds and giggles. Maybe it's the universes way of balancing it out, since nature isn't inherently evil, it was a very intelligent race maybe too much for it's own good.
Life find a way to keep balance.
I'm kinda surprised alot of people are making sympathetic arguments for these Daikaiju.
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Misunderstood creatures that because they do certain things a certain way they are these "Destroyers of worlds", "Sadistic", or lack of empathy. By merely walking they destroy, by merely flying they create storms or sonic booms, things that are natural to them from birth and yet because they do these things by them merely existing they are sadistic evil incarnate beings.Gojira1604 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:44 pmGhidorahanos.goji89 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:39 pmVenus was home to a vast and heavily-developed ecosystem, complete with an advanced intelligent race of its own, the Venusians. King Ghidorah appeared from space and attacked the planet, eventually wiping out all life.
Doesn't mean it did it for turds and giggles. Maybe it's the universes way of balancing it out, since nature isn't inherently evil, it was a very intelligent race maybe too much for it's own good.
Life find a way to keep balance.
I'm kinda surprised alot of people are making sympathetic arguments for these Daikaiju.
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Oh I thought you were disputing whether he destroyed all life and civilisation on a planet or notgoji89 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:39 pm
Venus was home to a vast and heavily-developed ecosystem, complete with an advanced intelligent race of its own, the Venusians. King Ghidorah appeared from space and attacked the planet, eventually wiping out all life.
Doesn't mean it did it for turds and giggles. Maybe it's the universes way of balancing it out, since nature isn't inherently evil, it was a very intelligent race maybe too much for it's own good.
Life finds a way to keep balance.
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