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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby indieskywalker » Sun May 26, 2019 10:04 am

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Godzilla2000Zero wrote:Lots of monster action but it's just fast paced so if you can keep up with it you'll enjoy it


What do you mean by fast paced though? Can you give a similar movie as an example? Like Kong Skull Island?

First Tranformers movie. 1 min of fight scene, next min of humans running from the carnage and next min of human still running while fight happens in background.


I watched some clips of transformers to get an idea. I’ll be fine with that kind of cutting away AS LONG AS there are at least SOME lengthy battles that have the camera stay on the monsters for long periods of time. Is this in KOTM?

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And is the film just as messy as transformers?

I really wanted a Godzilla movie with pacific rim levels of Kaiju action.

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Moogabunga » Sun May 26, 2019 10:42 am

When Godzilla arrives in Antarctica, is this specific moment from "Old Rivals" the song that plays? 0:39

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Godzilla2000Zero » Sun May 26, 2019 11:12 am

Moogabunga wrote:When Godzilla arrives in Antarctica, is this specific moment from "Old Rivals" the song that plays? 0:39


When he bursts out of the ice yeah

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indieskywalker wrote:
Godzilla2000Zero wrote:
indieskywalker wrote:
What do you mean by fast paced though? Can you give a similar movie as an example? Like Kong Skull Island?

First Tranformers movie. 1 min of fight scene, next min of humans running from the carnage and next min of human still running while fight happens in background.


I watched some clips of transformers to get an idea. I’ll be fine with that kind of cutting away AS LONG AS there are at least SOME lengthy battles that have the camera stay on the monsters for long periods of time. Is this in KOTM?

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And is the film just as messy as transformers?

I really wanted a Godzilla movie with pacific rim levels of Kaiju action.

The second half of the battle has lengthier scenes and not really the plot is simple if that's what you mean
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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby indieskywalker » Sun May 26, 2019 11:23 am

Godzilla2000Zero wrote:
Moogabunga wrote:When Godzilla arrives in Antarctica, is this specific moment from "Old Rivals" the song that plays? 0:39


When he bursts out of the ice yeah

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indieskywalker wrote:
Godzilla2000Zero wrote:First Tranformers movie. 1 min of fight scene, next min of humans running from the carnage and next min of human still running while fight happens in background.


I watched some clips of transformers to get an idea. I’ll be fine with that kind of cutting away AS LONG AS there are at least SOME lengthy battles that have the camera stay on the monsters for long periods of time. Is this in KOTM?

Added in 16 minutes 3 seconds:
And is the film just as messy as transformers?

I really wanted a Godzilla movie with pacific rim levels of Kaiju action.

The second half of the battle has lengthier scenes and not really the plot is simple if that's what you mean


Are you responding to my comment about the movie being messy?

Yeah what I mean is that is that are the battles crammed like the transformers movies, where you just don’t know what’s going on, and you have like 15 characters doing different things at the same time.

Basically is it Michael bay like? I’m fine with cutting away for brief periods as long as it doesn’t feel messy and unsatisfying.

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Godzilla2000Zero » Sun May 26, 2019 11:58 am

indieskywalker wrote:
Godzilla2000Zero wrote:
Moogabunga wrote:When Godzilla arrives in Antarctica, is this specific moment from "Old Rivals" the song that plays? 0:39


When he bursts out of the ice yeah

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indieskywalker wrote:
I watched some clips of transformers to get an idea. I’ll be fine with that kind of cutting away AS LONG AS there are at least SOME lengthy battles that have the camera stay on the monsters for long periods of time. Is this in KOTM?

Added in 16 minutes 3 seconds:
And is the film just as messy as transformers?

I really wanted a Godzilla movie with pacific rim levels of Kaiju action.

The second half of the battle has lengthier scenes and not really the plot is simple if that's what you mean


Are you responding to my comment about the movie being messy?

Yeah what I mean is that is that are the battles crammed like the transformers movies, where you just don’t know what’s going on, and you have like 15 characters doing different things at the same time.

Basically is it Michael bay like? I’m fine with cutting away for brief periods as long as it doesn’t feel messy and unsatisfying.

Yes it's simple just fast
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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Monster X » Sun May 26, 2019 12:47 pm

Ben Shapiro wrote:Does Mothra use her GodRays as a weapon during any scenes?


I asked this earlier and apparently no she doesn’t. Her god rays are pretty much just spotlights. She uses them to tell the humans were Godzilla is after the Mexico battle. They never mention her using them to defend herself in battle.
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Postby Dv-218 » Sun May 26, 2019 12:51 pm

I admit it would have been neat to see her use the god rays to startle and blind either Ghidorah or Rodan for a moment, but i'm honestly cool with her apperantely being an angry Moth-Wasp-Mantis thing during fights lol.
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Postby Monster X » Sun May 26, 2019 12:51 pm

I’ve truly begun to to appreciate the irony of Ghidorah in this film. They unleashed him hope he would bring balance to the world, when in reality he going terraform it to suit himself. He going to do do the very thing they hoped to prevent but on a far grander and more terrible scale.
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Postby Dv-218 » Sun May 26, 2019 12:54 pm

Yeah. He basically turns out to be the anti-thesis to everything Vera and the other eco-terrorists hoped to achieve and it's glorious. Gotta love cruel irony like this.

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Postby LockBite » Sun May 26, 2019 12:56 pm

But they were right about the rest of the Titans. Did they wake up on their own or does Ghidorah wake them up? If it’s the latter, then arguably waking up Ghidorah was a net positive.

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Dv-218 » Sun May 26, 2019 1:04 pm

LockBite wrote:But they were right about the rest of the Titans. Did they wake up on their own or does Ghidorah wake them up? If it’s the latter, then arguably waking up Ghidorah was a net positive.


Uh yeah, but if Ghidorah wasn't killed he would have manipulated the Titans to his own will to help him with his terraforming goals.

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Postby Monster X » Sun May 26, 2019 1:07 pm

LockBite wrote:But they were right about the rest of the Titans. Did they wake up on their own or does Ghidorah wake them up? If it’s the latter, then arguably waking up Ghidorah was a net positive.


From what I’ve read Ghidorah is the one to wake them and yes that turned out to be a good thing. But only after Ghidorah is beaten. Also we don’t know the full after affects of this event. Apparently Skull Island’s storm is now gone, meaning it’s eco-system can now spread beyond Kong’s control. There are possibly other long term issues that can arise. Plus if the post credit scene is anything to go by some people have yet to learn their lessons.

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On that note, Ghidorah isn’t actually a titan is he? He was only called that because they thought he was one of them. Hell he can’t ever be call a massive unidentified terrestrial organism.

He is... ALIEN.
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Postby Cryptid_Liker » Sun May 26, 2019 1:26 pm

Monster X wrote:Ghidorah isn’t actually a titan is he? He was only called that because they thought he was one of them. Hell he can’t ever be call a massive unidentified terrestrial organism.

He is... ALIEN.


Ghidorah is a MUEO

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Postby warman222 » Sun May 26, 2019 1:31 pm

Massive Unidentified Extraterrestrial Organism? But, by this point MUTOs have basically become a name for the species that fought Godzilla in the 2014 film. Hence the Titan moniker coming about. I don't think that an earthly origin is part of the criteria is it? My theory is the term MUTO was the "old" term til at least K:SI, and finally fizzling out by the 2014 film since by then, most of these giant monsters were given names. It's kinda like how scientific terms and definitions change as time goes on and more info is found.
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Postby Dv-218 » Sun May 26, 2019 1:37 pm

Triple nope-rope from outer space
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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby LockBite » Sun May 26, 2019 1:51 pm

Dv-218 wrote:
LockBite wrote:But they were right about the rest of the Titans. Did they wake up on their own or does Ghidorah wake them up? If it’s the latter, then arguably waking up Ghidorah was a net positive.


Uh yeah, but if Ghidorah wasn't killed he would have manipulated the Titans to his own will to help him with his terraforming goals.

That’s extremely disappointing :| . They should’ve had the Titans start waking up randomly and then Ghidorah makes them evil. Otherwise it’s arguably a good thing that Emma broke out Ghidorah.

Seems like the only moral takeaway from this movie is that you don’t skreeonk with Godzilla :?

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Monster X » Sun May 26, 2019 1:56 pm

warman222 wrote:Massive Unidentified Extraterrestrial Organism? But, by this point MUTOs have basically become a name for the species that fought Godzilla in the 2014 film. Hence the Titan moniker coming about. I don't think that an earthly origin is part of the criteria is it? My theory is the term MUTO was the "old" term til at least K:SI, and finally fizzling out by the 2014 film since by then, most of these giant monsters were given names. It's kinda like how scientific terms and definitions change as time goes on and more info is found.


I think MUTO up till G14 was still used as the collective term for unclassified titans. However after San Francisco the name became synonymous with a specific creature to the wider public so they altered they designation to Titan as that’s what they had been calling all their named creatures.
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Postby Hokmuto » Sun May 26, 2019 1:56 pm

LockBite wrote:
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LockBite wrote:But they were right about the rest of the Titans. Did they wake up on their own or does Ghidorah wake them up? If it’s the latter, then arguably waking up Ghidorah was a net positive.


Uh yeah, but if Ghidorah wasn't killed he would have manipulated the Titans to his own will to help him with his terraforming goals.

That’s extremely disappointing :| . They should’ve had the Titans start waking up randomly and then Ghidorah makes them evil. Otherwise it’s arguably a good thing that Emma broke out Ghidorah.

Seems like the only moral takeaway from this movie is that you don’t skreeonk with Godzilla :?

What? Uh....The Titans became chaotic because of Ghidorah. When Godzilla defeats Ghidorah, they go back to their normal, peaceful ways which leads to climate change being resolved. A takeaway you get from the movie is that humans must not upset the balance of nature and to live in harmony with it.
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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Dv-218 » Sun May 26, 2019 1:58 pm

LockBite wrote:
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LockBite wrote:But they were right about the rest of the Titans. Did they wake up on their own or does Ghidorah wake them up? If it’s the latter, then arguably waking up Ghidorah was a net positive.


Uh yeah, but if Ghidorah wasn't killed he would have manipulated the Titans to his own will to help him with his terraforming goals.

That’s extremely disappointing :| . They should’ve had the Titans start waking up randomly and then Ghidorah makes them evil. Otherwise it’s arguably a good thing that Emma broke out Ghidorah.

Seems like the only moral takeaway from this movie is that you don’t skreeonk with Godzilla :?


I mean, you do realize that he specifically woke them up to control so they could indirectly "help" him terraform the environment, right? If he wasn't killed by Godzilla, he would have continued to do so and skreeonked up the entire planet. In retrospect, waking up the other titans WOULD have been a good thing- but waking up Ghidorah isn't. The moral is pretty clear here, don't mess up with the natural balance and be at harmony with it.
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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Monster X » Sun May 26, 2019 2:02 pm

Another thing to take is, don’t presume to know what’s best. They know so little about these creatures and just assumed waking them up would be better for everyone. All the time having no idea that one of them was a world ravaging alien.

Edit: they were no better then the rest of humanity despite what they preached.
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