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The best installment in the Star Wars saga is...

Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (1999)
6
5%
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (2002)
3
3%
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
9
8%
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (1977)
14
13%
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
66
60%
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (1983)
12
11%
 
Total votes : 110

Re: Star Wars

Postby Ethan » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:35 pm

Legionmaster wrote:? Saved the universe?

First off, Star Wars doesn't leave the galaxy. Second, the Sith are far from defeated. There are tons of them. All over. There are two more Galactic Empires after RotJ. Palpatine is even the one who is basically responsible for saving the galaxy. Without the militarization of the Empire, the galaxy would have fallen to the Yuzan Vong even faster than they almost did.

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Re: Star Wars

Postby alienhulk2099 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:01 pm

No, the expanded universe counts too, it only doesn't count when it contradicts.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Goji » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:01 pm

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alienhulk2099 wrote:It looks like I'm the only one here that liked the special editions more than the original prints, rather strange. :?


I agree don't really see the differnce between the two.


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Re: Star Wars

Postby KaneLocke » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:47 pm

alienhulk2099 wrote:No, the expanded universe counts too, it only doesn't count when it contradicts.

It's either canon or it isn't. You can't have it both ways.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Terrier » Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:15 pm

wataru wrote:I like how Anakin and Obi Wan could toss Droids across rooms.

I like how Starkiller can bring down Star Destroyers.

I like how Darth Vader can get tossed through walls.

I find it ironic how Luke has to grimace like he's about to drop the biggest deuce of his life to pull his saber from the frozen ice and HE saves the universe from The Sith.


Thats what I like about Luke, he "saves the galaxy" because of his moral and full realisation rather than awesome powers, that's why I see him like a real Jedi. Still, it's just a matter of reimaginating the original movies acording to the current style to have him fight stormtropers like a super circus acrobat.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Chris55 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:59 pm

wataru wrote:I find it ironic how Luke has to grimace like he's about to drop the biggest deuce of his life to pull his saber from the frozen ice and HE saves the universe from The Sith.


He was still a Noob Jedi when that happened. Probably did crap himself too
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Monster Master » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:42 am

Legionmaster wrote:? Saved the universe?

First off, Star Wars doesn't leave the galaxy. Second, the Sith are far from defeated. There are tons of them. All over. There are two more Galactic Empires after RotJ. Palpatine is even the one who is basically responsible for saving the galaxy. Without the militarization of the Empire, the galaxy would have fallen to the Yuzan Vong even faster than they almost did.


Yuzan Vong... aren't they an invading race from outside the SW galaxy? Read some stuff about them before and they despise technology and shit.

So the remnants of the empire helped defeat 'em?
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Re: Star Wars

Postby wataru » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:12 am

Monster Master wrote:
Legionmaster wrote:? Saved the universe?

First off, Star Wars doesn't leave the galaxy. Second, the Sith are far from defeated. There are tons of them. All over. There are two more Galactic Empires after RotJ. Palpatine is even the one who is basically responsible for saving the galaxy. Without the militarization of the Empire, the galaxy would have fallen to the Yuzan Vong even faster than they almost did.


Yuzan Vong... aren't they an invading race from outside the SW galaxy? Read some stuff about them before and they despise technology and shit.

So the remnants of the empire helped defeat 'em?


Yes, and yes. The New Jedi Order. Good reading, some parts are really boring - like after Chewie dies.

And as for everyone saying the EU counts as canon , while I would LOVE for it to be so, it's not. Lucas ignores it at his whim. I believe he's jealous because every single novelist writes better Star Wars then him.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:15 am

wataru wrote:I believe he's jealous because every single novelist writes better Star Wars then him.


Yup. I was far more entertained with the books than the new trilogy (although I did still like it).
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Re: Star Wars

Postby wataru » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:35 am

HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:
wataru wrote:I believe he's jealous because every single novelist writes better Star Wars then him.


Yup. I was far more entertained with the books than the new trilogy (although I did still like it).


Even the kiddie stuff is better. Young Jedi Knights > Prequels.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby alienhulk2099 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:31 am

On a related note, anyone see the third Robot Chicken Star Wars special that aired just last night? :lol:
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Hellspawn28 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:15 pm

The EU is canon, and pretty much all of its canon expect for several of the Marvel SW comics since Marvel no longer have the rights to Star Wars.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby alienhulk2099 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:41 pm

Something I found at Cracked: The TIE Fighter pilot that saved the day! No really, this actually happened in ep 4:

http://www.cracked.com/article_18719_th ... -wars.html
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Tyler » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:39 pm

wataru wrote:like after Chewie dies.


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Re: Star Wars

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:39 pm

My friends and I have been joking about that guy for years.

I especially love how he shouts "Look Out!" before he crashes strait into Vader.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Reptile » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:32 pm

I thought I remember reading somewhere that Lucasart's official policy is that everything in the EU is canon unless specifically stated otherwise. Like the whole Force Unleashed series vs the "What if" comic where Yoda crashes the Death Star into Endor...with Palpatine still in it(epic moment was epic). Force Unleashed is canon because no one has come out to claim it's not while the aforementioned comic has AU practically stamped all over it.

This runs into several problems when the EU contradicts itself. And then when the movies and the EU contradict each other. I believe official Lucas policy when it comes to these things is "shut up and give us your money, proles". Ergo Star Wars continuity is a messy, messy thing.

Also, best damn moment in the entire saga IMO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phqzx7dV ... re=related
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Re: Star Wars

Postby wataru » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:02 am

Since Lucas is the end-all-be-all of anything SW until he dies choking on a doughnut on his Skywalker Ranch, anything EU is up for non-canonization.

So it's safer to say it's not canon, then is.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:24 am

Star Wars continuity is a mess. The three step approach is frustrating. However, I just really pay attention to what I want to. Ignore the stuff that I dont really have interest in.

Rewatching that clip reminded me of how powerful Vader's redemption really was. I remember cheering the first time I watched that scene when I was like 5.
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Re: Star Wars

Postby wataru » Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:36 am

Gorosaurus Rex wrote:Star Wars continuity is a mess. The three step approach is frustrating. However, I just really pay attention to what I want to. Ignore the stuff that I dont really have interest in.


You can just ignore Episode 2, 3, all the EU stuff post Ep 1 to just before ANH and be happy
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Re: Star Wars

Postby JVM » Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:47 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:The EU is canon, and pretty much all of its canon expect for several of the Marvel SW comics since Marvel no longer have the rights to Star Wars.

Actually, the continuity guys (They hire people solely to manage the SW universe) are currently working to canonize the Marvel comics.

If you put your mind to it, the whole SW canon/non-canon thing can make total sense, I know at least one guy who's pretty good with it. However, I for one am a lazy bastard and the only EU I really make note of is the Thrawn Trilogy, the original Clone Wars series, and... that's about it really.
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