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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby Leunames » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:05 pm

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Heath wrote:What is the easiest to find scale that will look good with my Heisei 6" Godzilla? 1/700 scale seems too hard to come across.


it depends on how close to the actual scale you want to get.
This is what n-scale (around 1/150) looks like with SHMA G2K:

http://i.imgur.com/8tRvi7e.jpg

I will be glad to delete this image if need be, but just wanted to show what this scale looks like with the figure.


That would work at first glance...but closer inspection with the door frame heights, etc. would make G2K more of Kong 33 size. the green building on the left for example shows that Godzilla is only 4 or 5 stories high, despite his 50M height.

I can already tell good scaling is going to be a pain in the skreeonk.


i'm looking into the 1:650 scale lego models i posted earlier. they'd go perfectly with the heisei figures
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby EdGojira » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:16 pm

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That would work at first glance...but closer inspection with the door frame heights, etc. would make G2K more of Kong 33 size. the green building on the left for example shows that Godzilla is only 4 or 5 stories high, despite his 50M height.

I can already tell good scaling is going to be a pain in the skreeonk.


i'm looking into the 1:650 scale lego models i posted earlier. they'd go perfectly with the heisei figures

I would like to see how the end results go. I'm almost considering 1:400 by now.
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby godzilla98rules » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:28 pm

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godzilla98rules wrote:This building forum has a creative section filled with custom made scale models. This is where I got the buildings I used in my edited photos.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=348

Are there any 1:700, 1:600 or 1:400 scale buildings there? :)


So far, I found this:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1635892

The buildings in this topic are in 1:700
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby Leunames » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:46 pm

godzilla98rules wrote:
EdGojra wrote:
godzilla98rules wrote:This building forum has a creative section filled with custom made scale models. This is where I got the buildings I used in my edited photos.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=348

Are there any 1:700, 1:600 or 1:400 scale buildings there? :)


So far, I found this:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1635892

The buildings in this topic are in 1:700


no...that's 1:1700. Too small...godzilla would look competely giant
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby godzilla98rules » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:49 pm

leunames wrote:
So far, I found this:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1635892

The buildings in this topic are in 1:700


no...that's 1:1700. Too small...godzilla would look competely giant[/quote]

I misread the numbers. Sorry. :oops:

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At least I can make up. I found these buildings. They are in 1:450

http://www.faltboat.net/pokara/paper_t/papert01.html

Another EDIT:

All of the models on this page are in 1:700. I made sure:

https://papercraftsquare.wordpress.com/tag/1700/
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby EdGojira » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:50 pm

Want your Godzillas to look bigger than Tomytec makes them look but still much smaller than 100 meters? (Grumbles) I have something for you, T gauge: http://www.shapeways.com/shops/mepc?s=12#more-products.
LEGO might assist: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_ ... y%20bricks
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby Heath » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:33 am

leunames wrote:
Heath wrote:What is the easiest to find scale that will look good with my Heisei 6" Godzilla? 1/700 scale seems too hard to come across.


it depends on how close to the actual scale you want to get.
This is what n-scale (around 1/150) looks like with SHMA G2K:

http://i.imgur.com/8tRvi7e.jpg

I will be glad to delete this image if need be, but just wanted to show what this scale looks like with the figure.


That would work at first glance...but closer inspection with the door frame heights, etc. would make G2K more of Kong 33 size. the green building on the left for example shows that Godzilla is only 4 or 5 stories high, despite his 50M height.



Yep, leunames, that is correct. For myself, that's fine, but that's why I wanted to show the picture. To me, it still gives the impression of a big monster while allowing for a pretty good variety with great detail on the buildings (and vehicles), but I certainly understand those who want something closer to movie accurate scale. I've tried looking for z-scale buildings, which are around 1:200 scale, but the variety is not there.

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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby Mothra1961 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:23 am

Nice thread! Definitely want to build a city for my figures :twisted:

check out the Sankei stuff(1:220)

http://www.1999.co.jp/search_e.asp?Typ1_c=104&scope=1&scope2=0&itkey=Sankei+1%2F220

pretty sweet yeah?

http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig14/10140869a.jpg

This would look great in a mountain diorama/ natural landscape, imagine using some strings as overhead power lines to connect a bunch of these together and have Godzilla smash the poop out of them :shock:

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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby Leunames » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:47 am

Heath wrote:
leunames wrote:
Heath wrote:What is the easiest to find scale that will look good with my Heisei 6" Godzilla? 1/700 scale seems too hard to come across.


it depends on how close to the actual scale you want to get.
This is what n-scale (around 1/150) looks like with SHMA G2K:

http://i.imgur.com/8tRvi7e.jpg

I will be glad to delete this image if need be, but just wanted to show what this scale looks like with the figure.


That would work at first glance...but closer inspection with the door frame heights, etc. would make G2K more of Kong 33 size. the green building on the left for example shows that Godzilla is only 4 or 5 stories high, despite his 50M height.



Yep, leunames, that is correct. For myself, that's fine, but that's why I wanted to show the picture. To me, it still gives the impression of a big monster while allowing for a pretty good variety with great detail on the buildings (and vehicles), but I certainly understand those who want something closer to movie accurate scale. I've tried looking for z-scale buildings, which are around 1:200 scale, but the variety is not there.


It's tricky for monsterarts-scale figures to get movie accurate. The figures are too small with respect that something 1:650 scale would most likely be an iconic building or skyscraper (why dedicate time and resources building a 1:650 scale shopping mall or apartment building when you can do 1 World Trade). That then leads into having the figures dwarfed by various office towers and the like, which they would be in real life. Unless you can find an airport of sorts or a seaport (which I have not seen).

It would be much easier to fine scale buildings and what not for a 12" tall figure or higher. Bascially the larger the figure, the easier it is to get scale buildings that "fit."

But of course, it's all personal preference. Yours works quite well
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby EdGojira » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:54 am

I can't find anything 1/700 that isn't a freaking ship. I do not think my Godzilla 2014 posing will work unless someone has found LEGO instructions for a city. Anybody have better luck, yet?
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby LiquidG » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:09 pm

This is a thread I've been waiting for for a long time, I'm not picky about movie scale accuracy and personally like the Showa/Millennium to early Heisei scale so having my Heisei monsters look like shrimps to their usual height is fine with me.
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby EdGojira » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:38 pm

I found this little thing that may help in some way or another: http://tinytinytrains.blogspot.com/
I don't get it, can someone actually make OO/N scale paper models smaller by adjusting some sort of printer setting?
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby Leunames » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:44 pm

EdGojra wrote:I found this little thing that may help in some way or another: http://tinytinytrains.blogspot.com/
I don't get it, can someone actually make OO/N scale paper models smaller by adjusting some sort of printer setting?


You could adjust the scale in something like Photoshop for any type of paper craft model theoretically. You would just need to know the basis of the original scale (meaning, the DPI used to represent 1cm, or 1inch, or 1 foot etc. in the real life item).

The challenge with these small items is that you would really need to scale them down even further to make them 1:650 scale...almost to the point of it being more hassle vs. just printing out several buildings or so.

That being said...there are some toy planes on ebay that are at 1:650 scale...
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby EdGojira » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:47 pm

leunames wrote:
EdGojra wrote:I found this little thing that may help in some way or another: http://tinytinytrains.blogspot.com/
I don't get it, can someone actually make OO/N scale paper models smaller by adjusting some sort of printer setting?


You could adjust the scale in something like Photoshop for any type of paper craft model theoretically. You would just need to know the basis of the original scale (meaning, the DPI used to represent 1cm, or 1inch, or 1 foot etc. in the real life item).

The challenge with these small items is that you would really need to scale them down even further to make them 1:650 scale...almost to the point of it being more hassle vs. just printing out several buildings or so.

That being said...there are some toy planes on ebay that are at 1:650 scale...

I'm not interested in planes. They just don't give it a Godzilla in a city look. I have no printer, unfortunately. T gauge would make my (future) Heisei Goji 80 meters (take a few), right?
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby Leunames » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:50 pm

EdGojra wrote:
leunames wrote:
EdGojra wrote:I found this little thing that may help in some way or another: http://tinytinytrains.blogspot.com/
I don't get it, can someone actually make OO/N scale paper models smaller by adjusting some sort of printer setting?


You could adjust the scale in something like Photoshop for any type of paper craft model theoretically. You would just need to know the basis of the original scale (meaning, the DPI used to represent 1cm, or 1inch, or 1 foot etc. in the real life item).

The challenge with these small items is that you would really need to scale them down even further to make them 1:650 scale...almost to the point of it being more hassle vs. just printing out several buildings or so.

That being said...there are some toy planes on ebay that are at 1:650 scale...

I'm not interested in planes. They just don't give it a Godzilla in a city look. I have no printer, unfortunately.


I take it you have no interest in a destroyah-themed diorama then...
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby EdGojira » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:54 pm

leunames wrote:
leunames wrote:
EdGojra wrote:
You could adjust the scale in something like Photoshop for any type of paper craft model theoretically. You would just need to know the basis of the original scale (meaning, the DPI used to represent 1cm, or 1inch, or 1 foot etc. in the real life item).

The challenge with these small items is that you would really need to scale them down even further to make them 1:650 scale...almost to the point of it being more hassle vs. just printing out several buildings or so.

That being said...there are some toy planes on ebay that are at 1:650 scale...

I'm not interested in planes. They just don't give it a Godzilla in a city look. I have no printer, unfortunately.


I take it you have no interest in a destroyah-themed diorama then...

Oh sh--okay, you got me there but I'm missing the following: Destoroyah, Godzilla Junior and Burning G. Godzilla 2014 has an airport scene, too. I guess that would make my need 1/700 scale, though. I found some 1:450 stuff:
http://74.220.29.68/Merchant2/merchant. ... y_Code=TSS
http://www.klingenhoefer.com/
This isn't the 1/450 but I printed it off and they scale well.
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby Castellan Zilla » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:15 pm

Godzilla14 wrote:Any buildings for Bandai creation figures?


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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby EdGojira » Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:51 pm

Anybody know where to find the papercraft found in the below thread?
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=156&start=800
Also, I found this:
http://www.scalemodelstore.com/model/35 ... es%29.html
This might scale with Godzilla 6" figures.
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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby terrypierson » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:52 am

I have been working on a little diorama set for my stop motion videos. I am using N scale buildings, mainly by Bachmann. I know they're far from perfect but don't really care, I think they create a nice looking scene. The way I see it Godzilla, and other monsters like Kong's, scale changed so much film to film to be practically arbitrary. It's your creation, they can be however big or small you want.

Anyway, here's my first video with the new set: http://youtu.be/HCmjETpwubA

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Re: City Diorama / Buildings for Kaiju Figures

Postby EdGojira » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:01 am

terrypierson wrote:I have been working on a little diorama set for my stop motion videos. I am using N scale buildings, mainly by Bachmann. I know they're far from perfect but don't really care, I think they create a nice looking scene. The way I see it Godzilla, and other monsters like Kong's, scale changed so much film to film to be practically arbitrary. It's your creation, they can be however big or small you want.

Anyway, here's my first video with the new set: http://youtu.be/HCmjETpwubA

There are those of us that want their kaiju figures to be displayed in a way that makes them look like what a daikaiju is: gigantic. Not twenty feet tall. I do see where you are coming from. In 450 scale my 6" tall Godzilla is no 100 meters. It'd be closer to 70 meters which I don't mind because that is 10 meters taller than GMK Godzilla.
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