The *NEW* FM User Group Topic

[wataru]

Arbok is on alot more then Vega. I'll see Vega once in a while, not sure what he does but field PMs but again, he doesnt really HAVE to do anything. But if theyre busy, and dont have time/desire to monitor TK, then shoot...make Stuckey an admin; and find another person to be a mod.

This someone should be fairly active with common sense. Id nominate IR, Legion1979 and myself. IR because yknow...he's IR. Legion because he does know what he's talking about and doesnt put up with shit. And self for ....well it's me.

BTW...if FMs become a user group, and the temp rules become permanent rules, I think the masses would be satisfied (save from banning AH but that wont happen)

[JVM]

Arbok and Vega are on pretty much every day - but mind you, they also both have to manage the main site and it's technical shit, not to mention keep up DAILY updates.

BTW...if FMs become a user group, and the temp rules become permanent rules, I think the masses would be satisfied (save from banning AH but that wont happen)

Can you go a day without needlessly bringing up AH or do you have some kind of disease?

[Legion1979]

This someone should be fairly active with common sense. Id nominate IR, Legion1979 and myself. IR because yknow...he's IR. Legion because he does know what he's talking about and doesnt put up with shit. And self for ....well it's me.

Me as a mod? Could you imagine?

[KaneLocke]

Problem is, everyone Wataru suggested is hot-headed.

Wish OR was still around. Best admin ever.

[gvamp]

I think I would make a good mod why because I did it at the old site and I'm ALWAYS on it seems like.

[GojiFan]

I would offer to moderate the fm's, but I don't have the same amount of time to browse the forums as I used to. Le sigh.

[Legion1979]

I think I would make a good mod why because I did it at the old site and I'm ALWAYS on it seems like.

Yeah this is really a no brainer.

[Living Corpse]

If the FM causes such a big deal on the site, why not we just remove the whole FM?

IDK. Why not just make it a usergroup already like how everyone asked over a billion times already?

[JVM]

I think I would make a good mod why because I did it at the old site and I'm ALWAYS on it seems like.

I'm almost always on too... but I'd make a shitty mod. Besides obviously not exactly being popular 'round here, I'm my cynicism, I hold some biases, although a lot of the bad ones have faded.

...I'm half-kidding. Gvamp would be a fine mod actually.

IDK. Why not just make it a usergroup already like how everyone asked over a billion times already?

Because Arbok and Vega are busy and the mods are probably waiting for their approval on plenty of other stuff.

[alienhulk2099]

Just because someone is on all the time does not mean they should be the mod. We need a mod that isn't completely cut throat but rather tries to help people that struggle with matches, one someone can go to if they need a question on something, a mod that will not pick on one person and actually give warnings to EVERY rule breaker, a mod that gives no protection, a mod that does not lock topics for rules that were never broken, a mod that will not abuse his power and get away with attacking other members, a mod that actually knows how FMs work and won't lock a topic like say EX Gomora or Armor Mothra vs,. Demon Lord Dante or Aquarion because they don't know anything about the other combatant/are fanboys of the over powered; I nominate the likes of Hedorah, Yaburu, O Supreme, GojiFan, HellSpawn, Goji, Godzilla 1995, and even myself for the job.

[Legion1979]

Just because someone is on all the time does not mean they should be the mod. We need a mod that isn't completely cut throat but rather tries to help people that struggle with matches, one someone can go to if they need a question on something, a mod that will not pick on one person and actually give warnings to EVERY rule breaker, a mod that gives no protection, a mod that does not lock topics for rules that were never broken, a mod that will not abuse his power and get away with attacking other members, a mod that actually knows how FMs work and won't lock a topic like say EX Gomora or Armor Mothra vs,. Demon Lord Dante or Aquarion because they don't know anything about the other combatant/are fanboys of the over powered; I nominate the likes of Hedorah, Yaburu, O Supreme, GojiFan, HellSpawn, Goji, Godzilla 1995, and even myself for the job.

Translation: we need a mod who will let me do whatever I want whenever I want.

Dont count on it, AH.

[alienhulk2099]

Translation: we need a mod who will let me do whatever I want whenever I want.

You're clearly horrible at translating. I'm saying get a mod that's actually good and will NOT abuse his power and do his/her job.

[Legion1979]

Translation: we need a mod who will let me do whatever I want whenever I want.

You're clearly horrible at translating. I'm saying get a mod that's actually good and will NOT abuse his power and do his/her job.

Oh please. Every single time you post what you think the rules should be for the FMs or what you think the mods should be doing it always seems to me like you're writing down guidelines and loopholes that would make it easier for you to post whatever you want around here, especially when it comes to the FMs. And the sad part is that I'd feel this way even if I agreed with you. Your suggestions are incredibly self serving.

[zilla103192]

i sent AH a PM a long time ago suggesting that he just make his own FMs at Pixel Galaxy... he responded that he doesnt want to because he should be able to make his matches here...

[alienhulk2099]

Every single time you post what you think the rules are for the FMs or what you think the mods should be doing it always seems to me like you're writing down guidelines and loopholes that would make it easier for you to post whatever you want around here

How about pointing out these apparent loopholes instead of just trying to defame me.

And the sad part is that I'd feel this way even if I agreed with you. Your suggestions are incredibly self serving.

Show me how it's self serving when these are the points of making a good mod:

-Trying to help people so they don't screw up
-Someone people can go to if they need help (in other words trust)
-Punishing everyone involved in a flame war, not just ignore it or stick it all on one person
-No protection to anyone (wow that's really self serving! *sarcasm*)
-Locking topics for actual written rule breaking, not just because he feels like it; this mainly goes for locking matches because he is not aware of the combatants' capabilities/is a die hard fan boy of one fighter and will always call it one sided in favor of him/her/it
-No power abusing
-No flaming other members especially when they can't fight back

he just make his own FMs at Pixel Galaxy

If you've been there in the past month you would have known I actually did that.

[Legion1979]

How about pointing out these apparent loopholes instead of just trying to defame me.

I love how, whenever you don't have a counterargument, you insist that the other person show you examples. I don't see why this is necessary, considering your self serving "ideas" are all over these "FM Rules" topics.

Show me how it's self serving when these are the points of making a good mod:

-Trying to help people so they don't screw up
-Someone people can go to if they need help (in other words trust)
-Punishing everyone involved in a flame war, not just ignore it or stick it all on one person
-No protection to anyone (wow that's really self serving! *sarcasm*)
-Locking topics for actual written rule breaking, not just because he feels like it; this mainly goes for locking matches because he is not aware of the combatants' capabilities/is a die hard fan boy of one fighter and will always call it one sided in favor of him/her/it
-No power abusing
-No flaming other members especially when they can't fight back

Most of this stuff only happens to you. Gee, I wonder why. Your goal right now is trying to protect yourself so you don't end up banned from the FMs if and when it becomes a user group, or even banned from the entire site...again. You should be doing that by keeping a low profile, not insisting on specific rules in a subforum that you're infamous in or placing pleas in your sig for a rule change that really only benefits you.

If you've been there in the past month you would have known I actually did that.

But here's the thing. You'd rather play your games here because this site actually (gasp) has heavy traffic. And by participating in the FMs here you could always link back to your site and get a few people over there. That's obviously why you're fighting so hard. If things go in the direction it looks like they're going in you're going to lose out on all the things you consider fun about this site. But you really just did it to yourself.

[alienhulk2099]

I love how, whenever you don't have a counterargument, you insist that the other person show you examples. I don't see why this is necessary, considering your self serving "ideas" are all over these "FM Rules" topics.

I don't have to because it's defamation of character, which is harassment, which is against the rules. You are the one claiming I'm self serving, why don't you back up your words, hmm? I mean these are YOUR claims.

Most of this stuff only happens to you.

If this is your only response than it proves you have no real argument.

placing pleas in your sig for a rule change that really only benefits you.

As well as anyone else who wants to simply have fun and not turn the FMs into an ultra-strict section; which strangely enough has nothing to do with this topic.

That's obviously why you're fighting so hard.

No it is not, it is to insure what is best for the FMs.

[zilla103192]

AH. Legion is saying your self serving becasue whenever someone makes a topic about changing something on the FMs. and everybody likes the idea. You jump in and try to fight against everybody so the rules dont change. it makes it seem like you dont want them to change so you can just keep making your topics that everyone mocks you about.

and if you have a FM section at PG, why are you so upset about these FMs? make your own rules so the matches are exactly the way you want. and leave these ones alone. it will stop alot of arguments and stop alot of people from "flaming you"

[alienhulk2099]

and leave these ones alone

I've been part of these FMs and this site for years, I'd rather not let it go down hill and have it turn into something it shouldn't.

[Legion1979]

I don't have to because it's defamation of character, which is harassment, which is against the rules. You are the one claiming I'm self serving, why don't you back up your words, hmm? I9 mean these are YOUR claims.

It's not just here. Even in FMs or legit film discussion when you don't agree with what someone else says your comeback usually looks like, "Links please. Prove it. Prove it! PROVE IT!!". You do it everywhere. No one really has to back up their words in arguments with you because examples are everywhere. Stop playing the victim.

If this is your only response than it proves you have no real argument.

What kind of backwards bizarro world do you live in where you've done absolutely nothing wrong and everyone else just happens to be ganging up on you? Video game characters in FMs were just eliminated after people voted against them in two different threads. Who was the one of the few people who used them and even now continues to fight for them? Who was the person who created a 15 character FM right before a thread was created in which members voted to eliminate large matches like that? The answer in both cases is AlienHulk. Yes, a fairly large problem with the FMs are noobs, underage users who don't know how to use them and trolls. But it seems to me a lot of the things being voted against and the reason why we have so many threads about this lately is because a lot of members are fed up with what you bring to the table.

As well as anyone else who wants to simply have fun and not turn the FMs into an ultra-strict section; which strangely enough has nothing to do with this topic.

But you're really the only one who cares enough to complain. That says something.

No it is not, it is to insure what is best for me.

Fixed that for ya.

I've been part of these FMs and this site for years, I'd rather not let it go down hill and have it turn into something it shouldn't.

But here's the thing: everyone but you seems to agree that leaving the FMs the way they are is not an option. The FMs as they are right now is a joke. IMHO they were much better months ago before the forum changeover. They need to be user only to keep the nonsense to a minimum and the overwhelming votes for no video game characters and for smaller matches show that the majority simply doesn't agree with you. I think FMs will be better once all these new rules that people have been asking about for weeks now are put in place.