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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Reptile » Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:00 am

HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:That just seems like it takes away from character development. GINO used Godzilla as a mere plot device and elaborated in no way on his story.


Pffft, who cares about some stupid overgrown pest when you can focus on the sizzling onscreen romance of Audrey Timmonds and Nick Tat...Tato...the Worm Guy? Oh those two, so wacky and zany! Don't you just love them? Their wacky hijinks just light up the screen, and even though their relationship had its ups and downs, was it really ever in doubt that these two star crossed lovers would make it in the end?

Poking fun at GINO's shitty love story aside, I think doing a shortened origin 'story' has its advantages and if done well enough, could work.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:44 am

Reptile wrote:
HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:That just seems like it takes away from character development. GINO used Godzilla as a mere plot device and elaborated in no way on his story.


Pffft, who cares about some stupid overgrown pest when you can focus on the sizzling onscreen romance of Audrey Timmonds and Nick Tat...Tato...the Worm Guy? Oh those two, so wacky and zany! Don't you just love them? Their wacky hijinks just light up the screen, and even though their relationship had its ups and downs, was it really ever in doubt that these two star crossed lovers would make it in the end?

Poking fun at GINO's shitty love story aside, I think doing a shortened origin 'story' has its advantages and if done well enough, could work.


I love shitty love stories because they make me laugh. :lol:
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Inferno Rodan » Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:54 am

HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:That just seems like it takes away from character development. GINO used Godzilla as a mere plot device and elaborated in no way on his story.

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There's only one Godzilla movie in the entire series that goes into ANY depth on Godzilla's "story".
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:45 pm

Inferno Rodan wrote:
HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:That just seems like it takes away from character development. GINO used Godzilla as a mere plot device and elaborated in no way on his story.

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There's only one Godzilla movie in the entire series that goes into ANY depth on Godzilla's "story".


Because all of those are a continuation of the original. They're all sequels. This is not.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Inferno Rodan » Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:22 pm

HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:Because all of those are a continuation of the original. They're all sequels. This is not.

Not even the original goes into any depth on Godzilla's "story".

And no, they aren't all sequels to the original movie.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:37 pm

Inferno Rodan wrote:
HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:Because all of those are a continuation of the original. They're all sequels. This is not.

Not even the original goes into any depth on Godzilla's "story".

And no, they aren't all sequels to the original movie.


They're all a continuation of the original, with the exception of AMA. They may not all be direct sequels but they do go back to the original in some way.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Inferno Rodan » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:15 pm

HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:They're all a continuation of the original, with the exception of AMA. They may not all be direct sequels but they do go back to the original in some way.

No, they are not. G'98, G2K, and GFW have no connection whatsoever to the original.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Tyler » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:58 pm

Instead of a sadistic child murderer he should be a pedophile who lives in a basement.

Wait a minute...
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:16 pm

Inferno Rodan wrote:
HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:They're all a continuation of the original, with the exception of AMA. They may not all be direct sequels but they do go back to the original in some way.

No, they are not. G'98, G2K, and GFW have no connection whatsoever to the original.


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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Ethan » Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:29 pm

GFW does, as the year 1954 is mentioned in the prologue. Regardless, Godzilla's origin can be pretty much adressed in a line of dialogue that lasts 10 seconds.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Gojira-Fan » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:42 pm

I think I would like to have Odo Island touched upon a little bit.
If they do have that as his origin...
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby KaneLocke » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:23 pm

Ethan wrote:GFW does, as the year 1954 is mentioned in the prologue.

Does not mean it is a direct sequel to the movie, as the events that occurred in 1954 are never elaborated on. It is also never stated in GFW that the "first" Gojira died.

So, no. Mentioning the year of his creation is more of a nod to the film than making it a sequel.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Ethan » Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:57 pm

While it's doesn't quite follow Gojira's storyline like GMK or Godzilla Raids Again, there is no in-universe evidence that the films are unrelated. Regardless, Godzilla Final Wars isn't a film that deserves a true serious analysis.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:42 am

Spacegodzillagalaxy wrote:It would be cool if this was a sequal to te Heisei series.


That would just confuse the general US who is for the most part is unaware of the Heisei or later films. Hell a lot of them still think Godzilla vs Megalon is the last film.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:44 am

A) That's assuming that this film takes place in the Heisei universe.

B) Film Festivals don't give enough exposure to the masses for the majority of the audience to understand what would be going on.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:48 am

How would just showing battles familiarize with the Heisei continuity?

Also, why continue the finished Heisei universe?
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:53 am

^That's incredibly and most certainly debatable.

Anywho, on topic; keep it brief and to the point, but I wouldn't mind seeing some of Godzilla's personal history we haven't seen. A Jurassic Age Godzilla, Godzilla with feudal Odo Islanders, etc.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Arrow » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:59 am

No. The Heisei era had a definite beginning and end. There's honestly nothing to be gained from continuing it, IMHO.

Like I said elsewhere, I honestly wouldn't mind the first movie treating and emphasizing the origins of Godzilla as a mystery, while a sequel (if there is one) delving into and revealing Godzilla's origins to the audience, possibly bringing a monster opponent connected to Godzilla's past somehow. If you can't do King Ghidorah in the first movie, then why not connect him to Godzilla's past and set him up as the final opponent in the event of a possible sequel?
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:04 am

The mass audiences aren't familiar enough with these monsters to be bothered by LP using Ghidorah (her?) and calling it out for not being "fresh".
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:20 am

I dont see SpaceGodzilla or Destroyah making an appearance. I also doubt that it will be connected to a previous series.

However, I would be ok with having a universe with some already existing backstory to it. As long as it is explained adequitley to new fans.
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