The Villian: Existing or New?

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The Villian: Existing or New?

Postby W2daERN » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:04 pm

We know very little about the upcoming Godzilla film. We do know that the big G will fight another monster. The question is, will it be one of the older ones revamped, or will we get a new monster? Which would you prefer?

What does it take to fit in with Godzilla's various costars? How should a new monster be executed?

If you look at the monsters in the Godzilla Series, most of them are instantly recognizable as a fictional character rather than a giant version of a real animal. There are subtle differences that give them their identities, like Kamacuras's spikes, Ebirah's different shaped claws, and Anguirus's crown of horns. I think a new monster should have an origin similar to Godzilla's so as not to take up too much backstory, but be close enough to a real animal to be believable, and different enough to be unique.
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby Tyler » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:27 pm

My feeling about this is if they have the ability to use one of more Toho kaiju, they might as well use them. Don't come up with a knock off when you can go with the real deal.
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby W2daERN » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:29 pm

^ yeah but what if they have the same problem as both Godzilla comics (can't get the rights to any other monsters)?
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby Tyler » Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:02 pm

W2daERN wrote:^ yeah but what if they have the same problem as both Godzilla comics (can't get the rights to any other monsters)?


I think if IDW got some they could. But I don't know.
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby zilla103192 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:46 pm

^ i agree with tyler

If toho gives a comic company the rights to near a dozen of their monsters, i think they would allow a successful movie company to use them...
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby Showa Gyaos » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:00 pm

If an original monster is used, it had better be something unique; no butterflies, no three-headed dragons, and NO IGUANAS.

What I would like to see is a monster that has a feel of realism to it. If it's an alien monster, don't have it controlled by human-looking "extraterrestrials." Better yet, don't have it controlled at all! People in this country would laugh their asses off if LP tried to throw in a monster that's too reminiscent of the Showa era's silly days. -_-
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:11 pm

The monster needs a unique design that has some basis in reality. It also needs personality and some cool powers.
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby Hotrod93 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:58 am

Lets see:

(Mutated)

Mutated Leech that grows into a Giant Centipede/Leech hybrid.
(Starts off as Normal size Leech and gets mutated from Godzilla's blood. Thick Armor able to take Godzilla's Beam.)

Mutated Black Bear Mother and Cub.
(Both mutated from the same thing that created Godzilla, Cub first fights Godzilla but Godzilla ends up killing it. Then the Mother Goes after Godzilla for Revenge. The mother is twice as big as the cub, deformed in areas of its body like face, missing hair patches, oversized teeth in random spots of mouth.)

Mutated Star nosed mole.
(Little smaller in size to Godzilla but able to burrow underground causing fissures, sinkholes, and traps. Long Sharp claws on semi oversized hands, appendages on snout are sharp but flexible, Very fast and able to escape when needed but also able to go hand to hand with Godzilla.)

Mutated Aye-aye.
(Incase you want something more human/ape/Monkey like, it would be tall, lanky, with long fingers, its middle finger would be long then the others and have a long sharp claw at the end, very fast. It would look like a mix between a Skeleton of a normal Aye-aye just with eyes and skin and a Gremlin but hunched over.)

Mutated Hairy Frog.
(Title pretty much says it, it would be smaller than Godzilla at first but later grows to Godzilla size. Retractable claws on both Hands and feet, able to break its own bones to escape and grow, Regeneration, with the ability to Break its own bones and its regeneration its able to grow bigger and stronger along with its Retractable claws getting longer.)
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby XxComablack1937xX » Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:49 pm

Was i the only one so surprised TOHO gave the right's to so many of there character's? Esp some of the one's i saw mentioned were surprising.
I am pretty sure if Legendary wanted the right's to another monster then Toho probably wouldn't have put up as much of a fight money-wise as they did with Tri-Star not saying Tri-Star probably didn't deserve it i don't remember the whole story.

Either way if an Original Monster is used, im looking forward to it being some creepier then the Cloverfield monster design. Despite me not liking the movie i can easily see Godzilla trashing the entire city with a monster along the lines of that...
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:02 pm

.......Can anyone translate to me what the hell this kid is even saying?
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby Monsterzero 1965 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:07 pm

A rough translation of Batarang's post:
They better use an original monster, because if they use that space communist King Ghidorah, I will write a letter to Osama Bin Laden and ask him to destroy any movie theater that shows this piece of crap!
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby NSZ » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:17 pm

Batarang basically wrote:They better use an original monster, because if they use that space communist King Ghidorah, I will write a letter to Osama Bin Laden and ask him to destroy any movie theater that shows this piece of crap!



... WAT?

Dude, I don't want to see the King of Terror in this film as well, but that post is a bit... well, stupid.

EDIT: Dang it Monsterzero, make it easier to notice that you're translating incomprehensible babble, will ya? Now I have to edit that quote.
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby Reptile » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:41 pm

Batarang. You crazy.

Anywho, I was just kind of musing that if I were making the movie I'd introduce the new monster in such a way that it's supposed to make the audience think that that's the new Godzilla design. Make it close enough to the original Godzilla that you could make that mistake but make it just different enough so that the fan base would go WTF, thinking that it's GINO all over again. Then introduce the real Godzilla. Cue curbstomp battle and let Godzilla carry the rest of the movie on his own. Just a little prank, would be funny if the filmmakers did something along those lines. As for the monster itself I think I'd like to see a Kaiju with a base we really haven't seen before in the Toho films. Like a shark or maybe a scorpion. I think the monster's origin should interconnect with Godzilla's though, and the monster should ultimately play second fiddle to Godzilla. I'm all for having another monster in the film. Giant monster battles are always cool, but I think it would be best if the monster in the film just appeared to help flesh out Godzilla's origin, help flesh out Godzilla's character and give us so information on just how this new Godzilla fights, and of course help fill the film's quota of skreeonk with a giant monster battle.

EDIT: I'd also like a tooth and claw monster. If it has any kind of ranged weaponry at least make it something not flashy and energy based, like acid spit or organic spike projectiles. Beam wars kind of got boring for me.
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:55 pm

I'd prefer something weird, and significantly different from Godzilla. Dangerous in its own way, its powers very different from goji so both their attacks can shine. Soemthing like Megaguirus, Gigan or Hedorah.
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby Lionblaze » Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:09 pm

What if Deathla is in it? I mean since it doesnt look like we will be able to see what it looks like anytime soon.
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby alienhulk2099 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:16 pm

Allow it, although I'd rather see something like Obsidius, Krystalak, Bagan, Balkzardan, Vagnosaurus, Shiira, etc. But if a new monster entirely comes I'll try to welcome it. This much is certain: We need more mammalian or demonic kaiju in the Godzilla series.
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby W2daERN » Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:51 pm

I'd probably like something along the lines of Megaguirus. as in, an idea from a previous movie that never quite made it as a proper kaiju. Say, maybe a shokirus that absorbs enough of godzilla's blood to become gigantic. You know, not entirely original, but not repetitive either.
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby HayesAJones » Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:31 pm

Something different from all the monsters Toho has done over the years. Maybe something mammalian. I'd love to see a Bagorah-like creature too. What ever it is, it should be too out there or deadly yet, but still look interesting and put up a good fight.
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:41 pm

We need something like a giant frog or salamander. Kaiju are seriously lacking amphibians.
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Re: If an Original Monster is Used...

Postby alienhulk2099 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:45 pm

Kaiju are seriously lacking amphibians.

We've got Salamandora and a bunch of monsters of the week for salamanders. However, you really have no idea how right you are when it comes to frogs, I can only think of one frog kaiju in all honesty. :shock: Well, two actually, but that other one doesn't really have a name.
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