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what did mothra want to do with godzillas bones in tokyo sos

Postby godzillafan » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:03 am

doesnt mothra hate godzilla?
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Re: what did mothra want to do with godzillas bones in tokyo

Postby gojira84 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:38 am

I think it more had to do with whats right with life and such other than rivals.
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Re: what did mothra want to do with godzillas bones in tokyo

Postby Inferno Rodan » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:11 pm

She didn't want to "do" anything with them. She just wanted them to be put back to rest because it was wrong for them to be brought back to life in the first place. This was quite thoroughly explained in the film.
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Postby miguelnuva » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:19 pm

Mothra likes to keep godzilla happy becasue everytime they fight mothra losses something.
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Postby HayesAJones » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:12 pm

She didn't really want them per say. Touching the souls of the dead is a big no-no for her, so she wanted them returned to the sea.
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Postby alienhulk2099 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:43 pm

To put it bluntely the humans are guilty of grave robbing and giant butterfly deities have a serious respect the dead rule, not that you could blame them really since the dead can't defend against themselves.
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Postby edgaguirus » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:16 pm

Mothra felt is was disrespectful of the dead. She felt a soul should be allowed to rest in peace, not be enslaved in a metal body.
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Re: what did mothra want to do with godzillas bones in tokyo

Postby TitanoGoji16 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:13 am

This was what drives me up a wall about Tokyo S.O.S. Mothra is quite plainly "Hey, humans! Stop using Kiryu. Put the bones back where you found them. You keep using Kiryu, and I'll go medieval on your asses!" And then they use Kiryu again, and she helps them/him! What the hell? The final battle should have been Godzilla and Mothra vs. Kiryu, or a three-way battle, not Kiryu and Mothra vs. Godzilla. Why the hell would she help Kiryu when the entire point of her role in this movie is "KIRYU = BAD"?

Also, on a slightly unrelated note, I hate the fact that this is the first time Mothra and Mechagodzilla are together in the same movie, and they don't even really interact all that much. WHERE WAS MY MOTHRA VS. MECHAGODZILLA SCENE, TOHO?
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Re: what did mothra want to do with godzillas bones in tokyo

Postby KaneLocke » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:57 am

You're reading it to be too black-and-white. Despite Mothra wishing Godzilla's bones be returned, she couldn't allow him simply to run rampant. Kiryu was a means to an end in stopping Godzilla.

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Postby Inferno Rodan » Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:13 am

TitanoGoji16 wrote:This was what drives me up a wall about Tokyo S.O.S. Mothra is quite plainly "Hey, humans! Stop using Kiryu. Put the bones back where you found them. You keep using Kiryu, and I'll go medieval on your asses!" And then they use Kiryu again, and she helps them/him! What the hell? The final battle should have been Godzilla and Mothra vs. Kiryu, or a three-way battle, not Kiryu and Mothra vs. Godzilla. Why the hell would she help Kiryu when the entire point of her role in this movie is "KIRYU = BAD"?

I think you missed the part where Mothra said she would protect humanity from Godzilla. When she and Godzilla actually got around to fighting, she was very clearly completely outmatched. She NEEDED Kiryu's assistance to defeat Godzilla, and even then she got killed in the process. She wanted the original Godzilla's bones put back to rest, yes, but the new Godzilla was an actual physical threat whereas Kiryu was simply something that really rubbed her the wrong way. Priorities, man, priorities.
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Re: what did mothra want to do with godzillas bones in tokyo

Postby TitanoGoji16 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:29 am

Well, yeah... But I wanted to see Mothra fight Mechagodzilla, darn it. :P
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Postby HayesAJones » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:14 pm

And really Mothra never helps Kiryu. Her children distract Godzilla and cocoon him, but neither they nor Mothra actually fight alongside him. I would say they were on the same side, just that they're both against Godzilla.
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Postby miguelnuva » Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:46 pm

Godzilla and Mothra were orginally on the same side but toho changed to make mothra pure good.

and Mothra and godzilla wanted the same thing, kiryu's bones to be returned to the sea, we would have gotten the same flim just kiryu goes beserk and Godzilla brings kiryu back to the sea.
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Postby Gigan X3 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:01 pm

Mothra's into necrophilia.
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Postby godzilla1996 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:13 am

Mothra obviously dropped the bones in ocean. Mothra seems to be getting pretty good at dropping things in the ocean...
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Re: what did mothra want to do with godzillas bones in tokyo

Postby Tyler » Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:01 pm

Gigan X3 wrote:Mothra's into necrophilia.


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Re: what did mothra want to do with godzillas bones in tokyo

Postby Showa Gyaos » Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:36 pm

Inferno Rodan wrote:She didn't want to "do" anything with them. She just wanted them to be put back to rest because it was wrong for them to be brought back to life in the first place. This was quite thoroughly explained in the film.

This. Stupid b*tch needs to stick her nose into other people's affairs... :roll: [Just kidding.]
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Re: what did mothra want to do with godzillas bones in tokyo

Postby Patrick Alan » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:35 pm

Inferno Rodan wrote:I think you missed the part where Mothra said she would protect humanity from Godzilla. When she and Godzilla actually got around to fighting, she was very clearly completely outmatched. She NEEDED Kiryu's assistance to defeat Godzilla, and even then she got killed in the process. She wanted the original Godzilla's bones put back to rest, yes, but the new Godzilla was an actual physical threat whereas Kiryu was simply something that really rubbed her the wrong way. Priorities, man, priorities.


Actually, Kiryu could turn into a physical threat, remember Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla? Kiryu remembered being Godzilla 1954, and wrecked shit, he might have done it again.
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Re: what did mothra want to do with godzillas bones in tokyo

Postby ZillaMaster91 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:37 pm

Patrick Alan wrote:
Inferno Rodan wrote:I think you missed the part where Mothra said she would protect humanity from Godzilla. When she and Godzilla actually got around to fighting, she was very clearly completely outmatched. She NEEDED Kiryu's assistance to defeat Godzilla, and even then she got killed in the process. She wanted the original Godzilla's bones put back to rest, yes, but the new Godzilla was an actual physical threat whereas Kiryu was simply something that really rubbed her the wrong way. Priorities, man, priorities.


Actually, Kiryu could turn into a physical threat, remember Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla? Kiryu remembered being Godzilla 1954, and wrecked shit, he might have done it again.


He did go berserk again...

But he didn't go on a rampage. Kiryu made his wishes clear to Chujo through those mental flashes of the events of Gojira, and GxMG that he doesn't want to fight anymore (Reflecting Sara's view of Kiryu from GxMG). That's why he flew with Godzilla in his grasps out to sea where they can both rest in peace.
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Re: what did mothra want to do with godzillas bones in tokyo

Postby Patrick Alan » Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:34 pm

Yeah, I knew he went bezerk again in Tokyo SOS, but like you said he didn't wreck shit, so he only did it once.
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