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Tyler wrote:The thing is though gun murders outnumber every one of those by a wide margin.
Also, there are a lot fewer accidental baseball bat beatings than accidental shootings.

That's not me taking astand on the gun control issue, byy the way. Just me expressing a complaint with what I see as a rather glib take on a nuanced issue.
Except that the murder rate with non-handgun firearms has been consistent with the rate with knives (first chart), so all this "zomg we need to stop assault weapinz NAO" talk is pretty knee-jerk and unwarranted. What's the next level of nuance that we take this to?
My post wasn't about murders, it was about accidental deaths, and it wasn't related to knives at all.

You make a good point, but presenting it as a response to what I said doesn't make much sense.

Further, note that what you said addressed specific aspects of the debate; you were looking at it with more nuance than the glib cartoon above.
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Speaking of nuance, the forum post style really lacks it haha. I wasn't really aiming as a direct response to what you had said, but just jumping into the conversation off the nuance part. It would have made much more sense in an actual organic conversation. But it's ok, we'll just fix it in post! :)
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Legionmaster wrote:Speaking of nuance, the forum post style really lacks it haha. I wasn't really aiming as a direct response to what you had said, but just jumping into the conversation off the nuance part. It would have made much more sense in an actual organic conversation. But it's ok, we'll just fix it in post! :)
Thank you for clarifying.

And never, ever tell an assistant editor that we'll fix it in post... ;)
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ScootaVaran wrote:Call me a nut, but I personally think the goverment just doesn't like the idea of it's people being armed with the same weapons the military uses. NO goverment wants to be on equal terms with the people they're governing.
Aside from handguns and a few select shotguns, the kinds of firearms that are already available to civilians are generally inferior to those used by infantry since no civilian weapon is fully automatic.
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Spirit Ghidorah 2010 wrote:
ScootaVaran wrote:Call me a nut, but I personally think the goverment just doesn't like the idea of it's people being armed with the same weapons the military uses. NO goverment wants to be on equal terms with the people they're governing.
Aside from handguns and a few select shotguns, the kinds of firearms that are already available to civilians are generally inferior to those used by infantry since no civilian weapon is fully automatic.
In their eyes it is still enough to be a defiance if they wanted more control.
Ofcourse that is jumping into conspiracy theories. :roll:
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eabaker wrote:And never, ever tell an assistant editor that we'll fix it in post... ;)
It's ok, you can just crop it out, right? :P
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eabaker wrote:And never, ever tell an assistant editor that we'll fix it in post... ;)
It's ok, you can just crop it out, right? :P
Or blur it.
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Public Sevice Advert from the NRA(National Rifle Association) calling out the President and his supporters over their hypocracy over poo pooing the organization's suggestion for armed guards in schools.
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http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/16/congr ... ein-video/
This should have been done when Fast and Furious broke. :roll:

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Living Corpse wrote:Well yeah but the point of the comic is that even if you get rid of guns if someone really wants to kill another person they'll find other means of doing it like using a knife or poison their food, etc.
But would a person walking into a school with a bat or knife cause as much damage as someone with a semi-automatic?

Same day as the Sandy Hook shooting a guy went nuts in China, stabbed 20 kids and they all survived.
http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/in- ... 16680.html
And in 1995, Timoth McVeigh killed 168 people using no illegal substances. What's your point?

Also note that Chicago had, until 2010, a handgun ban (ie. the firearm that is by far the leading murder weapon in America) that didn't stop them from having one of the highest firearm murder rates in the country. They still have some of the strictest gun control laws and continue to have one of the highest firearm murder rates. Texas is under the national average.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:What the skreeonk?

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/h ... z2Hk59WLPk
Good God!!!
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Hellspawn28 wrote:When will people know that violence in video games and movies does nothing.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/gami ... s/1839879/
My god is this problem so annoying. All those parents and others need to learn that video games aren't doing anything to people, and that they're just being overprotective. What do they even expect us to entertain ourselves with? :roll:
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Kiryu2012 wrote:What do they even expect us to entertain ourselves with? :roll:
Well, when I was a kid, I entertained myself with books...
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Cimmerian Dragon wrote:^ Were any of them violent or politically transgressive? :lol:
Actually, yes, and many of them put ideas into my head. I would then have personal, individual responses to these ideas, way their ethical value, and then decide how - if at all - to integrate them into my own life, much as I like to think one does with ideas one gathers from playing violent and/or politically transgressive video games.

But, then, I'm an idealist...
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Cimmerian Dragon wrote:
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Cimmerian Dragon wrote:^ Were any of them violent or politically transgressive? :lol:
Actually, yes, and many of them put ideas into my head. I would then have personal, individual responses to these ideas, way their ethical value, and then decide how - if at all - to integrate them into my own life
What a novel concept! ;)

Seriously though, I have to believe that most people are capable of doing the same on some level. Otherwise, what's the purpose of exposing oneself to any sort of artistic expression?

It's funny, when I read Titus Andronicus in grade school, my teachers were impressed. When I brought a copy of First Blood to a middle school study hall, the monitor was mortified. While the Bard's cast was sadistic, and Rambo was desperate, neither grisly tale led me to brutalize my fellow men. If I was mentally imbalanced, perhaps it would have been different. However, I refuse to be treated like a potential maniac simply because there are some potential maniacs lurking in the populace.

Time for my favorite censorship quote again: "Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it."
That is a good quote! And your Titus Andronicus/First Blood story is very illustrative of the kinds of bullshit, ignorant cultural biases that permeate our society.
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Kiryu2012 wrote:What do they even expect us to entertain ourselves with? :roll:
Uh, porn?
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Hellspawn28 wrote:The sad thing is that Obama could ban violence in all media given that he is the President. I'm still worry about this.
No, he couldn't. Such a thing would require the cooperation of all three branches of government, and even then would be in large part unenforceable.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:The sad thing is that Obama could ban violence in all media given that he is the President. I'm still worry about this.
No, he couldn't. Such a thing would require the cooperation of all three branches of government, and even then would be in large part unenforceable.
In theory, it would never be able to happen, as that would violate 1st amendment rights, which the Supreme Court MUST uphold.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:The sad thing is that Obama could ban violence in all media given that he is the President. I'm still worry about this.
No, he couldn't. Such a thing would require the cooperation of all three branches of government, and even then would be in large part unenforceable.
In theory, it would never be able to happen, as that would violate 1st amendment rights, which the Supreme Court MUST uphold.
Yeah, I was going to bring that up, but I figured, there's always that one in a million possibility that the justices would concont some elaboarte justification for why in this instance, it doesn't count as protected speech. That's one in a million only after the one in a billion chance of the other two branches passing such a thing. And even in those ridiculously unlikely circumstances, you'd still just end up with mountains of appeals every time there was any attempt at enforcing it.
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