Most Evil Godzilla Monster

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Most Evil Monster

Destroyah
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SpaceGodzilla
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14%
King Ghidorah
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby Mincecraft » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:40 pm

ghidorasauras wrote:Hmmm... how about Bagan?


Never appeared in a movie, so he's too hard to gauge.

Also, re-vote people! The data seems to get erased with every edit!
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:55 pm

Can Hedorah really count as evil? Yeah he didn't give a darn about all the life he was killing but he seemed more concern with eating to survive in a world not made for him then anything and he didn't really go out of his way to try and kill Godzilla until the Mt: Fuji battle. He's more neutral then anything.

Now Showa Mechagodzilla is evil. Yes he's a robot but he seemed to have a personality, I mean wasting time just to spin your hands or rotate them sideways before firing or even shoving his hand into King Ceasar's mouth seems rather illogical for a machine and he seemed less like a puppet being controlled and more like a guard dog following orders. When they told him to kill they didn't say how they just said kill and he'd do it however he see's fit. He really wasn't being strictly controlled until his second movie. So for his first movie he seemed like a pretty smart A.I.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby Mincecraft » Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:22 pm

Living Corpse wrote:Can Hedorah really count as evil? Yeah he didn't give a darn about all the life he was killing but he seemed more concern with eating to survive in a world not made for him then anything and he didn't really go out of his way to try and kill Godzilla until the Mt: Fuji battle. He's more neutral then anything.

Now Showa Mechagodzilla is evil. Yes he's a robot but he seemed to have a personality, I mean wasting time just to spin your hands or rooster them sideways before firing seems rather illogical for a machine and he seemed less like a puppet being controlled and more like a guard dog following orders. When they told him to kill they didn't say how they just said kill and he'd do it however he see's fit. He really wasn't being strictly controlled until his second movie. So for his first movie he seemed like a pretty smart A.I.


Hey, Hedorah was requested so I put him in.

I like your points on MechaG.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby Showa Gyaos » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:24 pm

King Ghidorah's only goal in life is to destroy, and he's a dick when he does it. He is truly evil.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby edgaguirus » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:08 pm

I say Spacegodzilla or KG. SG targeted a helpless Little Godzilla in order to goad and eliminate Godzilla. KG is a serial killer, turning every civilization it encounters into ruins.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby Gyaos » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:33 am

Living Corpse wrote:Can Hedorah really count as evil? Yeah he didn't give a darn about all the life he was killing but he seemed more concern with eating to survive in a world not made for him then anything and he didn't really go out of his way to try and kill Godzilla until the Mt: Fuji battle. He's more neutral then anything.

Now Showa Mechagodzilla is evil. Yes he's a robot but he seemed to have a personality, I mean wasting time just to spin your hands or rotate them sideways before firing or even shoving his hand into King Ceasar's mouth seems rather illogical for a machine and he seemed less like a puppet being controlled and more like a guard dog following orders. When they told him to kill they didn't say how they just said kill and he'd do it however he see's fit. He really wasn't being strictly controlled until his second movie. So for his first movie he seemed like a pretty smart A.I.

To be honest though, I think the rotating hands is to either:

A. Prime the missles for firing

or

B. Reloading


Oh and my vote goes to Destroyah. Yeah King Ghidorah wipes out life. Give Destroyah the ability to survive and travel in space and he could prolly do the same thing.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby Giga Kaiju » Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:20 pm

King Ghidorah he is a planet destroyer what else needs to be said?

Destoroyah comes as second since he made Godzilla's life worse (Killing Jr.) and if given the chance he could've
killed lots of lives in the planet.

SpaceGodzilla third he wanted to be some sort of Dictator of Earth.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby RedZillaKing » Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:43 pm

I think people have completely misunderstood the question. Which wasn't "Hey brah! Who's your favorite Godzilla villain guy?"
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Destoroyah: A big, stupid force of nature. He acts like a predator and that's it. Are wolves evil? How about lions? When did Destoroyah show any evil intent whatsoever?
Ghidorah: A big, stupid force of chaos for one film... Who's one sadistic act was to shoot Goji in the junk. Everyone's puppet and chump in every other film. Not sure if he's intelligent enough to consider "evil". Just seems more like an intergalactic tornado.
Spacegodzilla: Willfully sadistic. He is the closest thing Goji had to a super villain. Tortures Little Godzilla for kicks.
Gigan: Who knows to what extent the roaches were controlling him? If it was minimal I'd say he counts as evil.
Mechagodzilla: Yeah... no. He's a weapon, plain and simple. And emotionless machine. Hell, he's just an extension of the Simeons' will, and has no intent of his own.
Hedorah: LC covered this. Not really evil.
Megaguirus: She sucked the energy from her offspring and they died. Now thats skreeonk evil. Intelligent enough that it seems intentional.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby TheSecondComing » Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:50 pm

Ghidorah destroyed planets offscreen and in the movieverse. All other arguments are invalid.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby RedZillaKing » Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:23 pm

So do comets. Are comets evil? Ghidorah never shows signs of sentience.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby Mincecraft » Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:31 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:So do comets. Are comets evil? Ghidorah never shows signs of sentience.


What about the Rebirth of Mothra movies? I've heard he does some things that count as evil.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby RedZillaKing » Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:40 pm

Godzilla monsters only, though. GKG doesn't count. If you're talking about KG, you're talking about the "everyone's three headed bitch" version.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby Gyaos » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:01 pm

Isnt Kiryu technicaly evil when he goes crazy? Heck his eyes even turn red and goes out of his way to obliterate anything before him, even his own pilots/commanders.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby Mincecraft » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:20 pm

Gyaos wrote:Isnt Kiryu technicaly evil when he goes crazy? Heck his eyes even turn red and goes out of his way to obliterate anything before him, even his own pilots/commanders.


That only lasts for a few minutes. Dont count.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:58 pm

Even when they broke free of mind control him and Gigan still choose to continue the fight with Godzilla and Angurius instead of just leaving.

King Ghidorah's insane, let's just leave it at that.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby RedZillaKing » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:10 pm

Though Gigan ditched his partner soon after. An instinct to fight =/= evil or insanity. Insanity implies that Ghidorah had the potential to be rational. I think he's just a force of chaos. Hell, choosing to fight to the death instead of running in DAM shows a lack of intelligence.

Lacking a will or intelligence is what makes it easy for aliens to control him.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:13 pm

Hell, choosing to fight to the death instead of running in DAM shows a lack of intelligence.


Or pride.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:15 pm

Hell, choosing to fight to the death instead of running in DAM shows a lack of intelligence.


Um...King Ghidorah did try to run away in DAM. When Godzilla was holding on to him and Godzilla blasted him in the back of the neck with his ray. He was trying to flee the fight, but Godzilla stopped him.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:18 pm

Which is a good thing cause had he escaped he would have just caused more death and suffering wherever he went, and he'd already escaped several times in the other films. This was meant to be victory for the Earth monsters who finally ended him once and for all and, in a sense, freeing and saving not just Earth but the whole galaxy, maybe even the universe from a horrible tyrant of death.

A great way to end the Godzilla series had things gone as originally planned and DAM ended up being the last one.
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Re: Most Evil Godzilla Monster

Postby ScootaVaran » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:28 pm

I voted King Ghidorah.

Minya would have been my next vote. I dont trust him......
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