What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Mincecraft » Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:55 pm

Showa Gyaos wrote:We have a thread that asks what monsters you do want in this reboot. But we have no thread that concerns who we don't want to make an appearance. If the Moderators feel that this is unnecessary, lock it. Here are the ones I'd have to go against:

King Ghidorah -- I'm probably going to receive a lot of hell for saying this, but I don't care. I understand that King Ghidorah is Godzilla's nemesis and all, but he is the most overused antagonist in not just the Godzilla series, but the Toho universe itself. I do not have anything against him. But he needs to be shelved for once. Give someone else the spotlight. If LP makes more than one movie, put him in a sequel.

Mechagodzilla -- Kiryu has had two films to his name in the final three Godzilla movies. I'm getting a bit tired of the same JSDF clones. The only way I'd accept having Mechagodzilla is if he went back to its roots as a weapon for some extraterrestrial invaders. Does this mean I'm against Mechagodzilla ever appearing again? No. Like King Ghidorah, I think he needs a rest.

Mothra -- I highly doubt she even has a chance of getting a spot in the movie, but I'm going to make my case anyway. She's been in the last two Godzilla movies; many of her movies rehash the same moments from her debut film (an egg hatches, the larva comes out, transforms, etc.); and I don't want singing fairies in the reboot. Like King Ghidorah, add her in a sequel (if there will even be one!).


I see what you mean, but lets take a look back to 2001 for a moment...

GMK was originally gonna have Baragon, Varan and Anguirus. That was changed because they realized that Mothra and Ghidorah were more popular and it was more fitting. This change was popular enough to make a killing at the box office and spawn a few more movies. Had Ghidorah or Mothra not been in the film, the Millenium series would have ended there and then.

I think for this upcoming movie to work, Ghidorah may have to be in it. If the movie makes no money, then we wont have another movie for God knows how long (unless Toho does what they did after Zilla was released).
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Sav » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:19 am

I'm open to anyone if they can pull it off..

but i don't exactly want to see Jet Jaguar, Mecha Godzilla, Mothra, the smog monster, Gigan, Megalon, or Space Godzilla. That could be corny..


Surprised more people don't want Ghidorah. Never know, this thing could totally flop. We might never see a sequel. Why not have his nemesis with American FX.



This movie ought to be real fun. They should take note from war of the worlds with the tripods in the distance. People getting blasted right next to the main character when he's running.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Mincecraft » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:44 am

Ya know what...and your gonna hate me for this, but wouldnt it be more fitting for him to not fight at all? I know Im contradicting myself, but Godzilla should go back to his nuclear roots. That nuclear message can apply today.For money, King Ghidorah, in spirit nobody.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby XxComablack1937xX » Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:47 am

Sav wrote:I'm open to anyone if they can pull it off..

but i don't exactly want to see Jet Jaguar, Mecha Godzilla, Mothra, the smog monster, Gigan, Megalon, or Space Godzilla. That could be corny..


Surprised more people don't want Ghidorah. Never know, this thing could totally flop. We might never see a sequel. Why not have his nemesis with American FX.



This movie ought to be real fun. They should take note from war of the worlds with the tripods in the distance. People getting blasted right next to the main character when he's running.



^^This, Godzilla really hasn't had a successful film in the U.S. since the Original, As far as i know (I could be wrong) The Return of Godzilla wasn't a big hit, G-98 explains itself, an G-2000 wasn't a hit neither.

So i'm sure if Legendary is offered the right's to other monsters in the Toho catalog they will pick the more popular ones first. If they offer King Ghidorah an Mothra like they did to Sony then bet on King Ghidorah being in the film. I wouldn't be opposed though, I think KG would look awesome on the big budget side of effects. Just as long as they can pull off a proper story for the monster being there.

I really hope Legendary announces what monsters will be in the movie an if its a Classic Godzilla villain or a completely new one.. Either way makes me excited for Comic Con
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:44 am

Mincecraft wrote:I think for this upcoming movie to work, Ghidorah may have to be in it. If the movie makes no money, then we wont have another movie for God knows how long (unless Toho does what they did after Zilla was released).


While I don't really want Ghidorah either, I'm annoyed to see this point brought up again. People outside the fandom honestly have little to no idea who the majority of the monsters within the Godzilla franchise are. Mothra is the one that really has any sort of public presence. The point is, even an audience member recognizes Ghidorah, they aren't going to be like, "Hey! I recognize that monster! Let's go see this film now!" The reaction would be the same as Godzilla fighting a new creation or a lesser known villain.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Mincecraft » Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:00 am

Gorosaurus Rex wrote:
Mincecraft wrote:I think for this upcoming movie to work, Ghidorah may have to be in it. If the movie makes no money, then we wont have another movie for God knows how long (unless Toho does what they did after Zilla was released).


While I don't really want Ghidorah either, I'm annoyed to see this point brought up again. People outside the fandom honestly have little to no idea who the majority of the monsters within the Godzilla franchise are. Mothra is the one that really has any sort of public presence. The point is, even an audience member recognizes Ghidorah, they aren't going to be like, "Hey! I recognize that monster! Let's go see this film now!" The reaction would be the same as Godzilla fighting a new creation or a lesser known villain.


Hence the point I made afterwards. Maybe a solo film would do better.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:05 am

Except, we know we aren't getting a solo film. Seeing Godzilla fight another monster is sort of part of the character, and seeing it in the reboot would be alot of fun.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Mincecraft » Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:08 am

Mincecraft wrote:
Gorosaurus Rex wrote:
Mincecraft wrote:I think for this upcoming movie to work, Ghidorah may have to be in it. If the movie makes no money, then we wont have another movie for God knows how long (unless Toho does what they did after Zilla was released).


While I don't really want Ghidorah either, I'm annoyed to see this point brought up again. People outside the fandom honestly have little to no idea who the majority of the monsters within the Godzilla franchise are. Mothra is the one that really has any sort of public presence. The point is, even an audience member recognizes Ghidorah, they aren't going to be like, "Hey! I recognize that monster! Let's go see this film now!" The reaction would be the same as Godzilla fighting a new creation or a lesser known villain.


Hence the point I made afterwards. Maybe a solo film would do better.


Well. Only time will tell.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby wataru » Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:47 am

antovald20 wrote:Image


antovald20 wrote:Image



Both of these Mothra pics are AMAZING!
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Sav » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:21 am

wataru wrote:
antovald20 wrote:Image


antovald20 wrote:Image



Both of these Mothra pics are AMAZING!

.. No.

The current mothra is fine. it just needs to move like a butterfly and be all over the place and fast. Now like it's on strings.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby antovald20 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:47 am

Wataru- Thanks dude! I didn't think they were that bad. What about this one?




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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby attilagodzilla » Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:48 am

About if king ghidorah should be put in the new movie.
I see some people bringing up that when they replaced varan and anguirus for king ghidorah and mothra because they were more popular in japan. And that is what many people are overlooking, in Japan king ghidorah is popular butin the rest of the world not that much and I believe he's also not as well known in AMerica (If I'm wrong feel free to correct me. )
So what i'm saying is , I don't think King Ghidorah will make the film more money because the general audience doesn't know him.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Mincecraft » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:13 am

attilagodzilla wrote:About if king ghidorah should be put in the new movie.
I see some people bringing up that when they replaced varan and anguirus for king ghidorah and mothra because they were more popular in japan. And that is what many people are overlooking, in Japan king ghidorah is popular butin the rest of the world not that much and I believe he's also not as well known in AMerica (If I'm wrong feel free to correct me. )
So what i'm saying is , I don't think King Ghidorah will make the film more money because the general audience doesn't know him.


Well, we cant use Megalon (American popular) cause people will just make fun of it, he's not the greatest design. King Kong would do, people have wanted a remake of that for a while now. A solo film is another idea (I would actually prefer that for some reason, check out my story idea in the thread by that name).

What monsters are popular in America but don't look horrible (in that sense). MechaGodzilla? Anguirus?
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby NSZ » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:20 pm

Mincecraft wrote: King Kong would do, people have wanted a remake of that for a while now.


Won't happen. Ever. Universal charges way too much for something so ordinary and plain.

A solo film is another idea (I would actually prefer that for some reason, check out my story idea in the thread by that name).


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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby attilagodzilla » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:30 am

Well maybe anguirus would do
He isn't that popular but king ghidorah is neither with the general public.
I think it doesnt make a differenc if they use KG or anguirus in the movie both Will do fine although i prefer anguirus
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Chompamunchasaurus » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:42 am

This is becoming more like "What monster SHOULD be in the reboot". So be it. Anguirus or some other "natural" tooth & claw monster would fit better than an alien, mystical or mechanical kaiju. Explaining Godzilla is tricky enough without throwing in quantistic anomalies, magic, aliens and mythology.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby FlamingZilla23 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:31 pm

antovald20 wrote:^WOW!! Ok, how about this???ImageIs this more to your liking?

Looks like those old mothra designs. Just without the long tail.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby wataru » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:52 am

antovald20 wrote:Wataru- Thanks dude! I didn't think they were that bad. What about this one?




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I like it except the stinger on the larva. I think Id change it to a pincer.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Mr. MADNESS » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:31 am

Godzilla's sons. Keep them both of this movie series,
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Megaton17 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:38 am

Mr. MADNESS wrote:Godzilla's sons. Keep them both of this movie series,



I agree, I don't want to see any infant G's, unless it is just a single Godzilla maturing, but even that is stretching it.

Personally I think Rodan would work the best as the villain.
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