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[Legionmaster]

"Wahhh wahhhh wahhhhhhh they're doing something to stop my illegal activity."

The whine of the entitlement generation.

Some of the stuff that's against the law shouldn't even be illegal in the first place.

I'm pretty sure there's basically zero debate on whether or not stealing intellectual property should be illegal or not.

[wataru]

If there was zero debate, we wouldnt be...debating it.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

If there was zero debate, we wouldnt be...debating it.

There's zero debate when evidence is presented. Most of the time, people that argue against have faulty opinions.

I think there's a debate on how the government and companies should handle piracy and the punishments.

[Jomei]

"Wahhh wahhhh wahhhhhhh they're doing something to stop my illegal activity."

The whine of the entitlement generation.

Some of the stuff that's against the law shouldn't even be illegal in the first place.

I'm pretty sure there's basically zero debate on whether or not stealing intellectual property should be illegal or not.

Oh, there is. The concept of intellectual property and who really benefits from monopolizing profits on said property are debated, but of course not in mainstream media. This applies less to movies, music, and such, but the debate is there, especially when innovations funded by public money are turned into products for profit in the private sector.

[Hellspawn28]

Update on the Miami Face-Eater: No Bath Salts,only Marijuana

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/rudy-eugene-toxicology-te_n_1632253.html?1340831905&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D173862

I saw that the other day. I do wish that the media really needs to stop calling them zombie attacks. I noticed that other news stories would slap "Zombie" in the headline to cash in on another story and it makes people really stupid enough to believe it's a sign of a zombie outbreak. Cracked.com sums up it nicely in my opinion.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-ways-face ... as-broken/

[Kiryu2012]

Update on the Miami Face-Eater: No Bath Salts,only Marijuana

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/rudy-eugene-toxicology-te_n_1632253.html?1340831905&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D173862

I saw that the other day. I do wish that the media really needs to stop calling them zombie attacks. I noticed that other news stories would slap "Zombie" in the headline to cash in on another story and it makes people really stupid enough to believe it's a sign of a zombie outbreak. Cracked.com sums up it nicely in my opinion.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-ways-face ... as-broken/

Yeah, I'm all for bear attacks instead of face-eating people.

[Legionmaster]

Oh, there is. The concept of intellectual property and who really benefits from monopolizing profits on said property are debated, but of course not in mainstream media.

You toss words like "monopolizing" around like you know what they mean, and they have no bearing on anything relating to IP. Who benefits from owning IP? The person who owns it. That's a no-brainer, and it's why copyright laws exist. If I bust my ass and spend a lot of time (ie. capital) on a piece of artistic merchandise, I'd really like to be the one who sees the bulk of the profits, not spam ads on download sites or bootleggers in the streets. If I can't earn a living doing what I do for a living, then what's the point of doing it at all?

This applies less to movies, music, and such, but the debate is there, especially when innovations funded by public money are turned into products for profit in the private sector.

That's a good one.

[Jomei]

It's funny that you think artists get the "bulk of the profits." It's also funny you think no innovation is funded by the public. You're quite mistaken on both counts, but given your condescending response to my benign correction of your misinformation re: intellectual property discourse, I don't think I'm going to bother explaining any further. I'm just letting you know there's a much more diverse array of opinions on that matter than you imagine.

[Legionmaster]

It's funny that you think artists get the "bulk of the profits."

When did I say anything about artists? People who call themselves "artists" tend to make nothing, because they're bad at business. Hence having to call themselves "artists" (which most of them aren't even good at anyway).

Keep in mind, however, that IP laws also protect a less financially robust individual. Without IP laws, I, the little guy, would just get edged out on every good idea by a larger corporation with the assets availible to duplicate my product much more efficiently than I. It works both ways.

It's also funny you think no innovation is funded by the public.

That's you infering. Some innovative things have come about from public funding, but the vast majority has not. It's statistically inconsequential to any argument. Where the money comes from is irrelevent anyway. Public funds, like private funds, aren't necessitated to one minutely specific use. No one forces a government organization, let's say, to give money to a research foundation (which, more often than not, is a private corporation). It's no different than a donation by a private investor except that it's pooled from taxpayer money.

correction

...But that would have required you to, you know, correct things. And not just writing a sentence that ammounts no "Nuh-uh!"

[Jomei]

When did you mention artists?

If I bust my ass and spend a lot of time (ie. capital) on a piece of artistic merchandise, I'd really like to be the one who sees the bulk of the profits,

A person who works on a piece of artistic merchandise is an artist, wouldn't you say?

And I'm not inferring anything. You were being broadly dismissive; in quoting and bolding the phrase "innovations funded by public money" and replying with, "That's a good one " you certainly seemed to scoff at the very notion. Be clearer next time if that's not what you meant.

Again, I'm not interested in a pointless debate with you over this. I haven't even expressed my view on the subject. I merely meant to inform you that, contrary to your opinion, a wider array of opinions on this topic exists. There is debate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_ ... l_property

I'm sorry this correction rustled your jimmies. It wasn't intended to provoke an argument.

[Legionmaster]

Linking to Wikipedia and using a meme phrase isn't really the best way to gain credibility. FYI.

[Jomei]

Linking to Wikipedia and using a meme phrase isn't really the best way to gain credibility. FYI.

Wikipedia's been found to be about as reliable as many conventional encyclopedias. And unlike print versions, you can usually access the sources and view the history of the article. If you find any errors on that page, though, you're welcome to contact the site admins and voice your concern. Regardless--unless you think the whole of it is a fabrication--it shows that there is indeed much more than "basically zero debate" on the subject. That was all I came to say.

[Legionmaster]

it shows that there is indeed much more than "basically zero debate" on the subject. That was all I came to say.

But a few fringe groups and protests doesn't establish a sociological "debate." No one is actually putting up a good fight to end IP and copyright laws. It's very much one-sided.

[Sav]

Update on the Miami Face-Eater: No Bath Salts,only Marijuana

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/rudy-eugene-toxicology-te_n_1632253.html?1340831905&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D173862

hm, must be zombies then.

hear this stuff is happening in china too.

[UltramanGoji]

Update on the Miami Face-Eater: No Bath Salts,only Marijuana

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/rudy-eugene-toxicology-te_n_1632253.html?1340831905&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D173862

hm, must be zombies then.

I see what you unintentionally did there.

[Spirit Ghidorah 2010]

hear this stuff is happening in china too.

That's because we're so bloody overpopulated. Cannibalism = Less mouths to feed + more food.

Two Birds, One Stone.

[Hellspawn28]

People need to stop listing to internet headlines when it comes to these news stories about zombies .

[wataru]

hear this stuff is happening in china too.

That's because we're so bloody overpopulated. Cannibalism = Less mouths to feed + more food.

Two Birds, One Stone.

Hell, in China they bury their people standing up. Theyre making it easier for Zombies.

[Tyler]

COMMUNIST ZOMBIES

[Cimmerian Dragon]

COMMUNIST ZOMBIES

For the first time, I find the idea of zombies legitimately frightening.