Thor (Avengers Movie) vs Hulk (Avengers Movie)

[kikomia]

Thor: http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/Thor_Odinson



vs


Hulk: http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/Hulk

Arena: New York City

Rules:
None

Thoughts:
Even though Thor was strong enough to bust through the cell which was supposedly: "Strong enough to withstand the Hulk", We still haven't seen the Hulk upper limit. He destroyed a Leviathan with just one punch, who are about 200 ft. I'm going to have to abstain..

[PopInPicsPresents]

I'm pretty sure the Hulk would beat Thor, I mean he was throwing him around with minimum effort throughout the film. Unless Thor just leaves his hammer on Hulk I don't see him winning.

[Kiryu2012]

Hulk wins. He could possibly outlast Thor and eventually bring him down. Unless Thor could use his 'only-Thor-can-carry-his-hammer' trick again, he won't be able to stop Hulk.

[Berzerkgodzilla]

^That's not a trick, Thor's not the only one who can lift it. Only ones who are worthy can lift it(From what I remember) So Odin can lift it as well, and I'm pretty sure in the comics Cap has lifted it.

Anyway, I'm going with Hulk on this one, it seemed like in the movie that eventually Hulk would of overcame Thor

[SoleMan]

I'm pretty sure Hulk already won this one...twice...

[Huan_of_Valinor]

Thor was not trying to fight the Hulk to the death on the hellicarrier, he was trying to reason with him through most of it and even when he got his hammer he only used it as a hammer. if Thor had gone all out the Hellicarrier would've been "sunk" so to speak lol

Mjolnir is the tipping point; it has other abilities that Thor can take advantage of, such as the lightning that (iirc) KOed two of the Leviathan things as they were coming out of the wormhole, and that huge quake-shockwave attack he used on the forst giant's planet. not to mention he can fly and manipulate the weather lol. Thor is an experienced and skilled warrior who in the movie was just a little less strong and durable than the Hulk. adding to the mix a hammer the Hulk can't lift and his other varied abilities, i would give the edge to Thor, but only after a very difficult battle

[RedZillaKing]

I agree with Juan. Thor was handling the Hulk. And movie Hulk is far from unbeatable. Unkillable, maybe. NOT unbeatable.

[Kiryu2012]

I agree with Juan. Thor was handling the Hulk. And movie Hulk is far from unbeatable. Unkillable, maybe. NOT unbeatable.

Movie Hulk does seem to be weaker than comic Hulk.
I wonder if movie Hulk could be used against Toho kaiju in FMs.

[GodzillaDude]

Thor was not trying to fight the Hulk to the death on the hellicarrier, he was trying to reason with him through most of it and even when he got his hammer he only used it as a hammer. if Thor had gone all out the Hellicarrier would've been "sunk" so to speak lol

Mjolnir is the tipping point; it has other abilities that Thor can take advantage of, such as the lightning that (iirc) KOed two of the Leviathan things as they were coming out of the wormhole, and that huge quake-shockwave attack he used on the forst giant's planet. not to mention he can fly and manipulate the weather lol. Thor is an experienced and skilled warrior who in the movie was just a little less strong and durable than the Hulk. adding to the mix a hammer the Hulk can't lift and his other varied abilities, i would give the edge to Thor, but only after a very difficult battle

I mostly agree with this.

Thor was not going all out in that fight he was trying to reason with Banner inside of him.

[KaneLocke]

I agree with Juan. Thor was handling the Hulk. And movie Hulk is far from unbeatable. Unkillable, maybe. NOT unbeatable.

Movie Hulk does seem to be weaker than comic Hulk.

That's because no movie goer aside from MAYBE comics fans could deal with the level of insanity Hulk brings in terms of strength. That would be like making a Superman movie where he literally shoves planets out of the way.

Movie Thor doesn't exert the same level of physical prowess the Hulk does. Assuming Thor behaves as he did in Avengers, Hulk would eventually win. Thor is the more skilled and has the more varied power set, but Hulk is just a freight train. Thor seems to underestimate his opponents, to judge from his fight with Iron Man and his tussle with Hulk.

That, and Thor didn't seem to display the raw force that would be required to permanently put down Hulk. He can hang with him, give him a run for his money, but can he STOP Hulk? Nothing I've seen so far convinces me of that.

[Huan_of_Valinor]

I agree with Juan. Thor was handling the Hulk. And movie Hulk is far from unbeatable. Unkillable, maybe. NOT unbeatable.

Movie Hulk does seem to be weaker than comic Hulk.

That's because no movie goer aside from MAYBE comics fans could deal with the level of insanity Hulk brings in terms of strength. That would be like making a Superman movie where he literally shoves planets out of the way.

Movie Thor doesn't exert the same level of physical prowess the Hulk does. Assuming Thor behaves as he did in Avengers, Hulk would eventually win. Thor is the more skilled and has the more varied power set, but Hulk is just a freight train. Thor seems to underestimate his opponents, to judge from his fight with Iron Man and his tussle with Hulk.

That, and Thor didn't seem to display the raw force that would be required to permanently put down Hulk. He can hang with him, give him a run for his money, but can he STOP Hulk? Nothing I've seen so far convinces me of that.

like i said, Thor was "hanging" with the Hulk while HOLDING BACK and only trying to reason with him/keep his focus off the ship so he didn't destroy it and skreeonk kill everyone.

do Thor's feats from his own movie count since it's the same continuity? (just curious)

Iron Man was only keeping up with Thor because his suit was @ 400% capacity lol. but every time they met head to head, Iron Man was on the loosing end of it because even at 400% Thor was stronger.

my opinion stands that Thor would win after one hell of a battle; out of the Avengers he's the only one who has a chance lol

[kikomia]

do Thor's feats from his own movie count since it's the same continuity? (just curious)

Yes they do. Same with Hulk.

[Huan_of_Valinor]

do Thor's feats from his own movie count since it's the same continuity? (just curious)

Yes they do. Same with Hulk.

in that case i'd say that in the battle on Jötunheimr Thor displayed pleanty of "raw force" that he did not show in the Avengers.

[KaneLocke]

do Thor's feats from his own movie count since it's the same continuity? (just curious)

Yes they do. Same with Hulk.

in that case i'd say that in the battle on Jötunheimr Thor displayed pleanty of "raw force" that he did not show in the Avengers.

He was also a much more tempermental brat then, too. He wasn't holding anything back. Now, as you've said yourself, in his tussle with Hulk in Avengers, he was holding back, trying to reason with him. Who is to say he wouldn't be doing the same here? And, yes, Iron Man only did as well as he did against Thor because of the supercharge he got, but Thor still didn't take that battle seriously. Rather than continue the "no nonsense" attitude he displayed at the end of Thor, our title character reverted back to being a fairly arrogant man.

Arrogance against Hulk is not a good idea...

[kikomia]

Arrogance against Hulk is not a good idea...

Yeah..Just look what happened to Loki.

[Tomzilla]

Rather than continue the "no nonsense" attitude he displayed at the end of Thor, our title character reverted back to being a fairly arrogant man.

Arrogance against Hulk is not a good idea...

Where you see arrogance, I see patience and control.

Thor could've crushed Iron Man at anytime. He demonstrated this in the end when he ripped off Iron Man's mask with ease. Thor didn't take his fight with Iron Man seriously because he didn't want to kill him. That showed a lot of character growth. Old Thor would've probably lost it and accidentally killed Iron Man. The fact Thor didn't is a testament to how much he's matured. He would've made Odin proud.

As others have already pointed out, Thor wasn't going all-out against Hulk. Now I have no doubt that Hulk is stronger. He is. But there's more to Thor than just his super strength. Thor's hammer, Mjolnir, can unleash a devastating assortment of powers, ones even the Hulk would have trouble overcoming. Since they're not fighting in an aircraft, Thor would whip out the lightning and wind. Thor's lightning wreaked havoc on the Chitauri Leviathans and his wind powers would turn Hulk into a floating duck (like it did to the Destroyer).

I'm leaning towards Thor, which is hard because I loved this Hulk and I was very impressed by his power.