2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

[Planetxman]

I think it looks pretty kick ass !! Tongue or not.

[Orgasmatron]

i think it looks good with the tongue honestly!!

[ZillaMaster91]

^ Same here man. As I recall, the 6" Bandai figure also had its tongue sticking out a wee bit in its sculpt.
I reserved myself one earlier, I can't wait. It's the fourth 30cm X-Plus figure that I bought in the last two months.... I think I got a problem! XD

[darkcancer]

The bottom left shot kind of hides one of Titanosaurus' antennae, making him seem like a unicorn haha. Overall, its a pretty nice figure.

[Planetxman]

X Plus Manda photos courtesy of David Eric Dopko



EXCELLENT !!!

[ZillaMaster91]

^ Ha, that is very well done.

Truth be told, if I saw that in person, and did not immediately realize that it was Manda, I'd be totally freaked out. XD

... I got a phobia of snakes.

[GIGAN05]

Those photos look legit XD. Manda really does make a convincing snake like that.

[Brad Simmons]

Liking the Titanosaurus, my only gripe if I were to be ultra-picky, is that the X-Plus sculpts seem to lack a little bit of "character". Meaning, I would love to see some of them in an action pose vs. just a straight up and down representation all the time. Varan was a missed opportunity for sure IMO.

[ZillaMaster91]

^ I kind of agree with you. I was expecting Titanosaurus to be in a more distinctive pose, but nonetheless it is still a great sculpt, and one I will not regret buying in the long run.

[Brad Simmons]

but nonetheless it is still a great sculpt, and one I will not regret buying in the long run.

Agreed!

[ebirahsmeg1]

Ugh, what a terrible sculpt. A lot of money for a whole lot of ugly. Unlike here, this thing is getting torn to shreds by collectors on the CT forums, and I have to tend to agree with them. *VERY* disappointing overall, but sadly not too surprising, as Xplus just seems to drop the ball more often than not. What's with the ridiculous long tongue hanging from its mouth? Will people try to say "oh, his tongue sometimes looked like that from the films" like they recently did when laughably defending the very flawed showa MG figures? It's amazing how some try to overlook/ignore/deny some of the major problems/issues that consistently pop up with many Xplus figures, which has to be one of the most frustrating lines ever, as the great potential of this line is often squandered.

And the tongue is far from the only problems with the figure:

• The legs look very strange as well (as several pointed out on CT, it almost looks as if in the middle of sculpting it, they realized he wasn't tall enough, so they added a segment to each ankle to increase the height).
• Is it just me, or does his head look a tad bit on the small side?
• What is up with the antennae? Just looks "off" from the actual suit.

Of course, this figure will look better once it's painted, but even a nice paint job cannot fully hide or fix these issues. For those who boldly claim that an Xplus showa KG figure will "automatically put to shame all KG figures before it", I find that highly doubtful with Xplus' very spotty track record.

Perhaps their 25 inch figure down the road will be an improvement (i.e. their excellent 25 inch Gigan being a recent example). Until that day happens, however, I think that both the Bandai and Marmit MH (yes, the dreaded stylized figure line than many thumb their noses at and dismiss) are more accurate representations of Titanosaurus than this thing...

[GCrusher]

In regard to "ebirahsmwg1"
I don't think X-Plus, as you say, drops the ball more often than not and has a very spotty track record. When you say a cartoony Marmit or Bandai figure with snap-on puffy comical arms and legs looks more detailed and realistic than this unfinished X-Plus surprises me because I've seen them and own one and while they are nice figures, it's obvious to me they lack the detail that this X-Plus figure has. For example, my opinion is that the Bandai figure is too robust and jovial looking. I think it's accurate, but not too detailed.
In my opinion X-Plus makes collectibles, Bandai makes toys. No comparison.

[ZillaMaster91]

^ I couldn't agree with you more. I find this sculpt a far more accurate version of Titanosaurus than anything we've seen in the past from Bandai or Marmit and indeed, there is no comparison as you say GCrusher. The only nitpick for me are the antennae. Other than that, there doesn't seem to me much wrong with it.

Why judge the prototype as if it's the final product?

[Brad Simmons]

Well, one's person's opinion or several for that matter doesn't make it so. It's just that, an opinion. I would rather have this Titanosaurus than anything else I've seen, except possibly a resin kit built and painted professionally. I Googled the Bandai and Marmit Titanosauruses and if you really feel those are more screen accurate than the X-Plus prototype, I'm just a big "Wow!" to that comment.

[GCrusher]

^ I couldn't agree with you more. I find this sculpt a far more accurate version of Titanosaurus than anything we've seen in the past from Bandai or Marmit and indeed, there is no comparison as you say GCrusher. The only nitpick for me are the antennae. Other than that, there doesn't seem to me much wrong with it.

Why judge the prototype as if it's the final product?

I agree that the antennae may be a little off, thick, but that may be due to the fact that if thinner the risk would be them breaking off more easily. Though I disagree with the comment about the small head size. The X-Plus Titanosaurus head only looks small when compared to the too large cartoony head on the Bandai. So I can see where that comment might come from.
I think one challenge with people in general is that they feel they need to choose sides or for that matter say something when there doesn't necessarily need to be a side to be chosen or something to be said. Maybe we're forced to choose a democrat or a republican, but we can like any kajui offering by any company. Too many of us get sucked in to bashing one company or another, or defending another. It's easy to see / read when we do this because we speak in absolute terms and make generalizations.
I think the Bandai and Marmit Titanosaurus figures are nice looking and accurate, but both sculpts lack the detail of the X-Plus.
And by the way, anyone that thinks the tongue is too big in the X-Plus sculpt should watch the movie again. In the scene where they reflect back to the accident when Katsura gets electicuted, theres a diagram of Titanosaurus on the wall with his big ol tongue sticking out. And it looks just like the X-Plus sculpt.

[RedZillaKing]

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The antennae are indeed too thick. They also lack the natural curve they had in the film. The extra ankle segment is accurate. If you look carefully at the photo above it's apparent in the first screenshot. Something does seem.... off about the head sculpt itself.

[GCrusher]

I think that maybe the neck is a little thick comparred to the photos. Could just be the angle of the sculpt. I think X-Plus did a similar thing when making the Mechagodzillas, as the heads were a little big, IMO.
Nice comparison photos.

[Brad Simmons]

Aren't we just splitting hairs here a bit? If I have to carefully look at something just to see the slightest misstep, is it really that big of a deal? I do agree the antennae are too thick though. As someone else stated, any thinner and they'd probably break easily. At first, I didn't love the tongue but now it doesn't seem like such a big deal to me. Apparently, it's screen accurate based on a diagram of the creature within the movie. I call that attention to detail!

I'm very curious to see the King Ghidorah sculpt. I'm a bit nervous about it. I want it to rock and am hoping that it is at least as good at the resin they came out with. *fingers crossed*

[ebirahsmeg1]

In regard to "ebirahsmwg1"
I don't think X-Plus, as you say, drops the ball more often than not and has a very spotty track record. When you say a cartoony Marmit or Bandai figure with snap-on puffy comical arms and legs looks more detailed and realistic than this unfinished X-Plus surprises me because I've seen them and own one and while they are nice figures, it's obvious to me they lack the detail that this X-Plus figure has. For example, my opinion is that the Bandai figure is too robust and jovial looking. I think it's accurate, but not too detailed.
In my opinion X-Plus makes collectibles, Bandai makes toys. No comparison.

Fairly predictable, expected replies, but as least Xplus fans are civil and we can engage in civil, intelligent debate...so I hope none of you are taking my critiques of this line as a mean personal attack on any of you. Now that I've got that disclaimer out of the way:

For the insane prices these things go for, they *should* have more detail. But when I see a line which is marketed as movie accurate, is far more expensive than other collectibles out there, and yet has very noticeable, distracting flaws and often don't look like their movie counterparts (aka look at some of the heisei Godzilla Xplus figures for a great example of this), then they should be taken to task on it.

^ I couldn't agree with you more. I find this sculpt a far more accurate version of Titanosaurus than anything we've seen in the past from Bandai or Marmit and indeed, there is no comparison as you say GCrusher.

With all due respect, you both have got to be kidding me...I think the above view point lacks objectivity regarding this line in general.

I am a fan of *all* lines (some people have labeled me a "Marmit/Gigabrain" guy, which I find amusing...I collect all lines), but *none* of them are above criticism (when Marmit puts out a bad, flawed product, I rip them to shreds just as I do with Xplus figures or any other line). But even die hard Xplus collectors on CT are ripping this new figure big time (as they did some other duds, such as the showa MG figures...two very flawed figures who's problems were completely ignored on here and actually praised) and at least show some objectivity from time to time when a figure has obvious issues. Everytime someone points out an obvious issue with a figure of this line on here, however, it's automatically dismissed or not acknowledged (Once again, the recent debate about the two Xplus showa MGs is a *great* of this).

But as I said to each their own...no problems whatsoever with those who like this line (I like it too, and I own several Xplus figures)...just would like to see some more objectivity from some when regarding this line. For the amount of $ they charge, these things should not have near as many flaws and should near movie accurate, and more often than not, it falls short in this department.

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The antennae are indeed too thick. They also lack the natural curve they had in the film. The extra ankle segment is accurate. If you look carefully at the photo above it's apparent in the first screenshot. Something does seem.... off about the head sculpt itself.

All valid points which will most likely just be brushed aside (as were valid critiques of both the Xplus MGs as a most recent example). And please folks, don't play the silly "you can't judge the unpainted prototype" or "You're being too nickpicky" cards...when a figure line markets "movie accuracy" as its main strength/selling point and charges a premium, then even the slightest flaw is (and should be) fair game.

[GCrusher]

In the words of Professor Mafune..
"That's it, keep it up. You can do it. Just get in there. Go on!"
I'm sure has was speaking about the future X-Plus release of his beloved Titanosaurus.
Maybe the exclusive will be Katsura with Mechagodzilla's comtroller in her stomach! That would be cool!

I agree sometimes we're just splitting hairs here, and we'll probably never be satisfied.
With Titanosaurus having been announced I'm really looking forward to an M2 release with the robot brain! One can hope.
BTW, is this X-Plus Titanosaurus sculpt based on the Volks kit? They look similar.