What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby XxComablack1937xX » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:09 am

Am i the only one that think's Mothra would actually look ridiculous in a American film without being completely changed with her physical appearance?

Sure, I'll have an open mind to it (NOT for the first film) but really.... Her an her bright colors an the fairy twins? I can only hear the American Audiences reaction as the fairy twins start singing that song..... Not that i really care as long as i enjoy the film... I just don't see how Legendary Pictures would even consider her when there's so much new stuff to be created, an better more unique monsters in the Toho franchise that need to be back on screen.

Biollante, Gigan, Titanosaurus, Rodan ect...... No offense to fan's of Mothra... but i'd like these films to have the tone of the 1954 an 1984 films.. neither which would suit Mothra.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:39 am

I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with Mothra's design in an American film. The GMK and SOS designs would work well, in my opinion. You might have to make the '03 versions a bit less fluffy, though, to avoid the "cuddly" connotations.

As for the Shobijin...that's trickier. However, there's nothing about them that would be as cutesy-poo as some of the Harry Potter menagerie or the like. So long as you advertise the film in a way that makes the mysticism and fantasy elements obvious to the audience before they buy a ticket, I think the action and destruction would still satisfy a broad audience. Yeah, she'll probably end up appealing more to young girls and women than Godzilla does, but that might be a good thing as far as bringing in a broader audience to the franchise as a whole. Hook the gals with Mothra, and they'll stick around for Ghidorah and company.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby antovald20 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:51 am

^^Good points, but it's a reboot there going to redesign her so that she looks more Holy/Divine.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:55 am

antovald20 wrote:^^Good points, but it's a reboot there going to redesign her so that she looks more Holy/Divine.

You have no way of knowing that. It's also assuming that Mothra will be in full-on God mode, which would be a basis of the ROM version of the character.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby antovald20 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:33 am

^There going to take everything we love about the character, and update it. You know for today's audience.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:36 am

antovald20 wrote:^There going to take everything we love about the character, and update it. You know for today's audience.

Your idea that they'll make Mothra more Holy/Divine is based on the idea that they'll draw from the nineties and 2K incarnation, despite the classic Mothra never being solidly established as either a mutation worshiped as a deity or as a legitimate deity (which is what makes that Mothra so much more mysterious and interesting).
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby antovald20 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:41 am

FINE! Keep it as a giant moth, and pray nobody laughs.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:46 am

antovald20 wrote:FINE! Keep it as a giant moth, and pray nobody laughs.

I think it's amazing that you're entirely not understanding what I'm saying.

You said "This is how they will do it"

I said "You don't know that they will take that creative direction, especially when the character has had a wider range of origins, some of which are alot more interesting then just a straight God"

to which you interpreted as "So you just want it to be a giant moth"

I feel like you haven't even seen Mothra vs. Godzilla or Mothra if you think that incarnation of the character is JUST a giant Moth.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:58 am

Better be careful about questioning Mothra's divine status. There are now fringe movements within the Leipedopteran Church that have forsaken our peaceful ways, and wish to impose Mothra's divinity upon the world by force.

Anyway, I can't imagine that Toho would allow Legendary to just chuck that entire aspect of the old girl's mythology to the wind. Even without the Shobijin, the GMK versions was about as far as they've wandered. She was still a mythical protector, whether or not we saw any worshipers.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby wrongnote85 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:59 am

Cimmerian Dragon wrote:Better be careful about questioning Mothra's divine status. There are now fringe movements within the Leipedopteran Church that have forsaken our peaceful ways, and wish to impose Mothra's divinity upon the world by force.


oh snap
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby NSZ » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:07 am

Cimmerian Dragon wrote:Better be careful about questioning Mothra's divine status. There are now fringe movements within the Leipedopteran Church that have forsaken our peaceful ways, and wish to impose Mothra's divinity upon the world by force.


Really, I blame myself for that.

Never shoulda fished that moth out of the sink last summer.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:07 am

Cimmerian Dragon wrote:Better be careful about questioning Mothra's divine status. There are now fringe movements within the Leipedopteran Church that have forsaken our peaceful ways, and wish to impose Mothra's divinity upon the world by force.

Anyway, I can't imagine that Toho would allow Legendary to just chuck that entire aspect of the old girl's mythology to the wind. Even without the Shobijin, the GMK versions was about as far as they've wandered. She was still a mythical protector, whether or not we saw any worshipers.

That's what I like about the Showa Mothra's mythology. It's a giant Moth on an Island ravaged by radiation. But does she simply have mutant abilities that are misinterpreted by the primitive Infant Islander's as divine or is she a true God?

Its' this ambiguity of science and myth that makes Mothra such a wonderful character and a prime example of what makes Toho genre films of that time so distinct. Simply answering the question as to what her deal is (ala RoM) is just boring and less intriguing.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby antovald20 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:20 am

U know, i don't think any of the Toho monsters are going to be in it at all. I'm pretty sure nobody at LP wants to pay for any of these monsters, because of cost.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Chompamunchasaurus » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:41 am

King Kong's, Gamera's or the Cloverfield monster's lookalikes.
I mean, I don't want fake movie posters or toys being eaten, trampled or burned to waste screen time and bother fans.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Tyler » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:00 pm

Gabara should have a Thanos-style cameo at the end.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:12 am

^ Are you trying to make me cry?

Although, a Thanos-style glimpse of Ghidorah peering down on our tempting little planet....
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Viva la revolucion! » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:52 am

I don't think they should use any toho monsters besides King Ghidorah, Krystallak and Spacegodizilla. I WANT ORIGINALITY!
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Rody » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:52 am

I think Spacegodzilla is a BAD choice for a beginning. This film is pretty much reintroducing Godzilla to America, and you want to throw TWO Godzillas in their faces?

Start with something SIMPLE.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby Viva la revolucion! » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:31 am

Perhaps Spacegodzilla can be made by a scientist who wants t odestroy Godzilla, what if he's not alien.
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Re: What monsters SHOULDN'T be in the reboot?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:35 am

Spacegodzilla is easily the most unoriginal monster that Toho ever created. Why create a new monster when we can just take our most popular monster and glue a bunch of tacky shit to him?
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