Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

[Kaiju-King42]

Has anyone ever entertained the thought that Sony actually did a really decent, detailed master for MEGAGUIRUS, and that the wires appear to be missing from the Toho DVD and HD version because they are amateurish transfers? I know this is the case with GvsMG74; some have said that Toho removed several instances of prominent wires from that movie, but in reality Toho's transfer was just blurry and gave the impression of that.

And this is why Blu-rays and Godzilla don't mix.

[Ethan]

Has anyone ever entertained the thought that Sony actually did a really decent, detailed master for MEGAGUIRUS, and that the wires appear to be missing from the Toho DVD and HD version because they are amateurish transfers? I know this is the case with GvsMG74; some have said that Toho removed several instances of prominent wires from that movie, but in reality Toho's transfer was just blurry and gave the impression of that.

Toho's HDTV of Godzilla vs. Megaguirus is quite soft compared to the Sony DVD, but not enough to hide such prominent strings, they simply aren't there. My guess is that those string were always meant to be removed in post-production, and the print Sony was given simply didn't have that process applied. There are noticeable wires in The Return of Godzilla and that version is quite soft, too.

[The Dark Uniter]

Funny you guys are mentioning Toho removing wires, on my HD copy of Rodan, when the Rodans are attacking the city, all traces of wires are gone whereas the Classic Media DVD had wires all over the place, though the American cut also removed the wires somehow.

[Goji]

Toho's HDTV of Godzilla vs. Megaguirus is quite soft compared to the Sony DVD, but not enough to hide such prominent strings, they simply aren't there. My guess is that those string were always meant to be removed in post-production, and the print Sony was given simply didn't have that process applied. There are noticeable wires in The Return of Godzilla and that version is quite soft, too.

Yeah, I have a theory that Toho's international version simply didn't receive the same treatment.

[Legionmaster]

I have the Hong Kong DVD (Region...3?) and it also doesn't have wires.

[Goji]

^ That's the Japanese version, right?

[Legionmaster]

^ That's the Japanese version, right?

If there's two prints, then it's def the Japanese one without the wires.

[Goji]

^ Okay, gotcha. That's another thing that makes it hard to add any weight to my theory, since only the Japanese version has been released in other territories. The only way to really be sure would be to see a 35mm print of the international version, and see if the strings are still present there.

[Crazy-c]

Oh god where do I start? Lol I could make a hour long video pointing out terrible effects so Im just going to list the movies with the worst effects.

Godzilla vs Megagirus (good lord there were strings EVERYwhere in this film and they were all visible, its like they didn't care, laughable CGI, and terrible usage of blue screens) This film was just an all around an embarrassment for something to come out in the 2000"s.

Godzilla Vs Gigan (toy puppets anyone?)

Godzilla Vs Hedroah (flying godzilla)

Godzilla Vs King Ghidorah 1991 (too many strings)

Godzilla's Revenge

Son of Godzilla

Godzilla vs King Kong (terrible blue screens)

Godzilla Vs SpaceGodzilla (space scene, nuff said)

plus many other scenes that I don't feel like listing.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Godzilla Vs Hedroah (flying godzilla)

Godzilla's Revenge

Son of Godzilla

...How do any of these films have bad effects?

Outside of the flying Godzilla prop, Godzilla vs. Hedorah has pretty damn good effects. For example, the Oil Refinery scene still looks impressive today and blows my mind every time I watch it.

All Monsters Attack, while only have one or two scenes with new special effects, pulls off those effects just fine. I can't complain about how they look, since they're done competently.

Son Of Godzilla has some of the best effects of the Showa series. The final fight in the snow is done so well that it nearly takes on a whole other level of beauty. Not to mention, if you're watching the Sony DVD version of the film, the Kamacuras and Kumonga props look stunning with the color enhancements.

[Crazy-c]

Godzilla Vs Hedroah (flying godzilla)

Godzilla's Revenge

Son of Godzilla

...How do any of these films have bad effects?

Outside of the flying Godzilla prop, Godzilla vs. Hedorah has pretty damn good effects. For example, the Oil Refinery scene still looks impressive today and blows my mind every time I watch it.

All Monsters Attack, while only have one or two scenes with new special effects, pulls off those effects just fine. I can't complain about how they look, since they're done competently.

Son Of Godzilla has some of the best effects of the Showa series. The final fight in the snow is done so well that it nearly takes on a whole other level of beauty. Not to mention, if you're watching the Sony DVD version of the film, the Kamacuras and Kumonga props look stunning with the color enhancements.

I haven't really seen those films in a long time but I remember they being especially bad with terrible suit designs and effects. Maybe Hedorah is not that bad but Godzilla's revenge and Son Of Godzilla did have some pretty bad effects.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

I haven't really seen those films in a long time but I remember they being especially bad with terrible suit designs and effects. Maybe Hedorah is not that bad but Godzilla's revenge and Son Of Godzilla did have some pretty bad effects.

Well, for one, suit designs are not special effects, therefore they don't matter for this particular topic. Two, I don't see how All Monsters Attack and Son Of Godzilla have bad effects. I was impressed by the effects in Son Of Godzilla and firmly believe they're some of the best in the franchise. All Monsters Attack's effects are competent and I see no reason to complain about them.

There are plenty of things to complain about in All Monsters Attack, but the effects in the new scenes are not one of them.

[Crazy-c]

I haven't really seen those films in a long time but I remember they being especially bad with terrible suit designs and effects. Maybe Hedorah is not that bad but Godzilla's revenge and Son Of Godzilla did have some pretty bad effects.

Well, for one, suit designs are not special effects, therefore they don't matter for this particular topic. Two, I don't see how All Monsters Attack and Son Of Godzilla have bad effects. I was impressed by the effects in Son Of Godzilla and firmly believe they're some of the best in the franchise. All Monsters Attack's effects are competent and I see no reason to complain about them.

There are plenty of things to complain about in All Monsters Attack, but the effects in the new scenes are not one of them.

Well I guess I don't have too much room to talk as I haven't seen those three films in a long time but I do remember them being terrible movies, well except for maybe son of Godzilla because its so bad its funny.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Well I guess I don't have too much room to talk as I haven't seen those three films but I do remember them being terrible movies, well except for maybe son of Godzilla because its so bad its funny.

...Godzilla vs. Hedorah and Son Of Godzilla, critically, are great films. Some of the best of the entire franchise. There is very little bad about either film.

Godzilla vs. Hedorah, while differing greatly from all other Godzilla films, is interesting for that very same reason. The film is done with competence and respect towards the subject matter, with a style which makes the film immediately grab your attention and the film never lets go. Style is what makes this film so interesting. The way certain scenes are shot, the animated segments, the odd artistic decisions and more. These parts give the film a life of its own.

Son Of Godzilla, on the other hand, is a near perfect monster movie. The story is tight yet focused, the characters are developed, the monsters actually do more than just act like monsters (as in they're given character and behave as such), the action scenes serve a purpose in terms of the story, the effects are well done, the music sets the atmospheric tone while breathing life into the film, it has themes of helping the next generation of one's kind, and it one of the best endings of the entire franchise. It really has everything a monster film should have. The only problem I see with the film is the Godzilla suit, which is still one of the worst. Outside of that though, you really can't ask for a better monster film.

All Monsters Attack has lots of problems, but it's a respectable piece of work. I don't particularly care for it, but I know plenty of people that like it.

Honestly, I would take Godzilla vs. Hedorah and Son Of Godzilla over just about every Godzilla film made after 1975.

EDIT: If you haven't seen any of those films, how do you know they're terrible?

[Crazy-c]

Well I guess I don't have too much room to talk as I haven't seen those three films but I do remember them being terrible movies, well except for maybe son of Godzilla because its so bad its funny.

...Godzilla vs. Hedorah and Son Of Godzilla, critically, are great films. Some of the best of the entire franchise. There is very little bad about either film.

Godzilla vs. Hedorah, while differing greatly from all other Godzilla films, is interesting for that very same reason. The film is done with competence and respect towards the subject matter, with a style which makes the film immediately grab your attention and the film never lets go. Style is what makes this film so interesting. The way certain scenes are shot, the animated segments, the odd artistic decisions and more. These parts give the film a life of its own.

Son Of Godzilla, on the other hand, is a near perfect monster movie. The story is tight yet focused, the characters are developed, the monsters actually do more than just act like monsters (as in they're given character and behave as such), the action scenes serve a purpose in terms of the story, the effects are well done, the music sets the atmospheric tone while breathing life into the film, it has themes of helping the next generation of one's kind, and it one of the best endings of the entire franchise. It really has everything a monster film should have. The only problem I see with the film is the Godzilla suit, which is still one of the worst. Outside of that though, you really can't ask for a better monster film.

All Monsters Attack has lots of problems, but it's a respectable piece of work. I don't particularly care for it, but I know plenty of people that like it.

Honestly, I would take Godzilla vs. Hedorah and Son Of Godzilla over just about every Godzilla film made after 1975.

EDIT: If you haven't seen any of those films, how do you know they're terrible?

Read my edit. I just haven't seen them In a while. I remember Hedorah as an all over the place film. It really doesn't know what it wan't to be. It is a godzilla movie? It some kinda of drug enducing trip out movie? Or is it is a children's film aimed to bring an environmental message in the film? There were just too many different elements in the movie that didn't blend in with one another. Some parts were just really weird and dark and some parts were just plain silly.

As for Son Of Godzilla I appreciated that it did something different but I just couldn't take it seriously (ok I don't really take any Godzilla film seriously, except for maybe the original) there are just so many silly moments I can't help but laugh. Its entertaining, but silly.

As for Godzilla's Revenge I don't touch that film anymore. Son of Godzilla was funny but Revenge or All out Attack (never heard it called that) was just painful for me to watch.

[Sydney Aradi]

@Crazy-C Sure Son of Godzilla is silly but it is a pretty well made film and sometimes Crazy, some sillyness in a film isn't bad in fact look at a film like say Godzilla vs Megalon. Yes it is silly but it can be quite entertaining

[GotengoXGodzilla]

I remember Hedorah as an all over the place film. It really doesn't know what it wan't to be. It is a godzilla movie? It some kinda of drug enducing trip out movie? Or is it is a children's film aimed to bring an environmental message in the film? There were just too many different elements in the movie that didn't blend in with one another. Some parts were just really weird and dark and some parts were just plain silly.

I don't see how anyone could think Godzilla vs. Hedorah is a children's film, when its easily the darkest and most disturbing Godzilla film since the original. Also, Godzilla vs. Hedorah knows exactly what it wants to be: a '70s movie. Godzilla vs. Hedorah is a product of the times. Banno wanted to make a statement about pollution while also having Godzilla in the film, so he decided to go all out. That's fine with me.

As for Son Of Godzilla I appreciated that it did something different but I just couldn't take it seriously (ok I don't really take any Godzilla film seriously, except for maybe the original) there are just so many silly moments I can't help but laugh. Its entertaining, but silly.

And examples of the film being silly would be...? Also, even if the film is silly, who cares? There are parts that are suppose to make you laugh, such as many scenes involving Minya. If they make you laugh, the movie is doing its job.

Silly is not a bad thing. It just means that Son Of Godzilla has a more whimsical atmosphere than most Godzilla films.

As for Godzilla's Revenge I don't touch that film anymore. Son of Godzilla was funny but Revenge or All out Attack (never heard it called that) was just painful for me to watch.

All Monsters Attack is the true Japanese title. "Godzilla's Revenge" is just the American name for the film. Since the film was made in Japan, the proper title is All Monsters Attack. Just like it's not "Godzilla vs. Monster Zero", it's Invasion Of Astro-Monster. It's not "Godzilla vs. The Thing", it's Mothra vs. Godzilla.

[Mincecraft]

I can list a load of bad moments. Surprised the asteroids from GvsSG havnt been mentioned as much as I thought.

[Gyaos]

I honestly dont see the strings or velcro pads in the Space scene from GvsSG.

[Mincecraft]

I honestly dont see the strings or velcro pads in the Space scene from GvsSG.

I say the same thing. They move so fast, how do you know?