Showa King Ghidorah vs Heisei King Ghidorah

[Berzerkgodzilla]

"Jackasses" is a little uncalled for, how were we Jackasses?

[L Lawliet]

"Jackasses" is a little uncalled for, how were we Jackasses?

You keep bickering without real proof, while the guy above my previous post did some research, and thus I accepted his argument

[GojiFan]

Still, Fish do get somewhat smarter, when you keep trying to catch the same fish, it knows what to do eventually, so why can't Showa King Ghidorah, you ask me?

It isn't exactly amazing for a fish to learn that biting a hook then getting pulled out of the water over and over isn't good for it. Not learning from a negative and stressful experience such as that would mean the organism is quite literally stupid. Fish, at least some species, are known to be smarter than many terrestrial vertebrates.

[L Lawliet]

Still, Fish do get somewhat smarter, when you keep trying to catch the same fish, it knows what to do eventually, so why can't Showa King Ghidorah, you ask me?

It isn't exactly amazing for a fish to learn that biting a hook then getting pulled out of the water over and over isn't good for it. Not learning from a negative and stressful experience such as that would mean the organism is quite literally stupid.

I meant that eventually it will stop, and fish are known to do that, so do other creatures

[GojiFan]

I meant that eventually it will stop, and fish are known to do that, so do other creatures

That isn't because of age. It is because of learning from experiences. Age does not necessarily mean intelligence. Learning is from experiencing different events and sensations, storing them to memory, and then being able to recall and apply them to what you are doing. The fish is learning, but that has nothing to do with its age. A centuries old Rodan could be far "dumber" than a Rodan only a few years old if the younger one has learned from far more experiences over that shorter time.

Whoo for Psychology.

[PopInPicsPresents]

"Jackasses" is a little uncalled for, how were we Jackasses?

You keep bickering without real proof, while the guy above my previous post did some research, and thus I accepted his argument

You're the one arguing without any real proof. I asked you to give me an example of how Showa Ghiddy was smarter, you did no such thing. All you have to back up your argument is a theory. Ghidorah may be thousands of years old, that doesn't stop it from being unintelligent. The only point you proved was that Showa Ghiddy's (EDIT: necks) are stronger then Heisei Ghiddy's.

[L Lawliet]

"Jackasses" is a little uncalled for, how were we Jackasses?

You keep bickering without real proof, while the guy above my previous post did some research, and thus I accepted his argument

You're the one arguing without any real proof. I asked you to give me an example of how Showa Ghiddy was smarter, you did no such thing. All you have to back up your argument is a theory. Ghidorah may be thousands of years old, that doesn't stop it from being unintelligent. The only point you proved was that Showa Ghiddy's are stronger then Heisei Ghiddy's.

Still, the point is that I actually had some proof, while you had jack, end of arguement

[miguelnuva]

Showa King Ghidorah is smart he knows to run from a losing battle. Heisei Ghidorah also just seemed more desperate to me against Godzilla once the mind control was over.

Buy the way all this talk of Heisei Ghidorah with being mind controlled he had Godzilla more on the ropes on his own then with being mind controlled.

[PopInPicsPresents]

WHERE THE skreeonk IS YOUR PROOF?

All you have is a silly "he's really old so he's really smart" theory which quickly got disproven. The only proof you've brought into the matter was for an entirly different point.

[L Lawliet]

WHERE THE skreeonk IS YOUR PROOF?

All you have is a silly "he's really old so he's really smart" theory which quickly got disproven. The only proof you've brought into the matter was for an entirly different point.

What point of end of argument do you not understand?, I accepted that I was wrong on the Rodan and King Ghidorah Smarts Theory, end of arguement, and this is the last time

Oh and read the above post please, have a nice day

Now I am gonna go eat some cyanide pills, I am hungry

[yaburu]

You're also going to eat a warning for calling users Jackasses.

[GodzillaXGomoraFight]

I am siding with Heisei Ghidorah. I would agree with the fact that Showa KG has more durability, but he lacks any skill in fighting up close. In the Heisei movie, KG was wrecking Godzilla until his mind control was destroyed. Both KG's have mind control, so I assume that Heisei KG will be fighting well once again. The only that might save Showa KG is his gravity bolts depending on their strength.

Heisei KG: 8/10
Showa KG: 2/10

[PopInPicsPresents]

I am siding with Heisei Ghidorah. I would agree with the fact that Showa KG has more durability, but he lacks any skill in fighting up close. In the Heisei movie, KG was wrecking Godzilla until his mind control was destroyed. Both KG's have mind control, so I assume that Heisei KG will be fighting well once again. The only that might save Showa KG is his gravity bolts depending on their strength.

Heisei KG: 8/10
Showa KG: 2/10

Heisei Ghidorah is without a doubt more durable, his Gravity Bolts are also most likely more powerful.

[GodzillaXGomoraFight]

I am siding with Heisei Ghidorah. I would agree with the fact that Showa KG has more durability, but he lacks any skill in fighting up close. In the Heisei movie, KG was wrecking Godzilla until his mind control was destroyed. Both KG's have mind control, so I assume that Heisei KG will be fighting well once again. The only that might save Showa KG is his gravity bolts depending on their strength.

Heisei KG: 8/10
Showa KG: 2/10

Heisei Ghidorah is without a doubt more durable, his Gravity Bolts are also most likely more powerful.

Can't be too durable if he got his wings and heads blasted off with a few atomic ray blasts. At least Showa KG was able to take on an army of monsters of DAM and end up without holes in his wings and chopped heads. I can assume that the whole "Heisei Godzilla has a stronger beam" argument will be brought up.

[PopInPicsPresents]

I am siding with Heisei Ghidorah. I would agree with the fact that Showa KG has more durability, but he lacks any skill in fighting up close. In the Heisei movie, KG was wrecking Godzilla until his mind control was destroyed. Both KG's have mind control, so I assume that Heisei KG will be fighting well once again. The only that might save Showa KG is his gravity bolts depending on their strength.

Heisei KG: 8/10
Showa KG: 2/10

Heisei Ghidorah is without a doubt more durable, his Gravity Bolts are also most likely more powerful.

Can't be too durable if he got his wings and heads blasted off with a few atomic ray blasts. At least Showa KG was able to take on an army of monsters of DAM and end up without holes in his wings and chopped heads. I can assume that the whole "Heisei Godzilla has a stronger beam" argument will be brought up.

You assume currently

Showa Ghidorah could have been destroyed by Godzilla on his own. The only reason it was killed by the DAM kaiju was because it didn't run away like it normal did. Seriously, you people give Showa Ghidorah WAY too much credit. And yes, Heisei Godzilla's Atomic Ray is much more powerful then Showa Godzilla's. The reason why Ghidorah didn't have holes in his wings in DAM was because it never bothered ti block any attacks with them, not that it matters since the only kaiju with a beam was Godzilla, and he hardly used it. An Atomic Pulse would surely kill off Showa Ghidorah, or at least critically injure it. If Heisei Godzilla fought Showa Ghidorah, he would have had a much easier time then he did with Heisei Ghidorah. Why? Because Showa Ghidorah liked to keep a distance, unlike Heisei Ghidorah giving Godzilla ample time to blast it full of holes.

[Kiryu2012]

Seriously, you people give Showa Ghidorah WAY too much credit.

This pretty much. Showa KG is nothing special whatsoever.

[GodzillaDude]

Although I do much prefer Showa King Ghidorah over Heisei King Ghidorah in terms of look and character Heisei still fought a much more powerful Godzilla so Heisei wins.

[Kaiju-King42]

Seriously, you people give Showa Ghidorah WAY too much credit.

I personally think its the other way around. But whatever. Get back to me when Heisei Ghidorah destroys at least one planet, fights against at least three monsters at the same time, and destroy a city in less than a minute. Then I might consider him being as powerful as the Showa version.

EDIT: Actually, while I'm at it. I'm just going to voice something that has been floating around in my head for a long time. I know the most of you will not agree with me, but I just want to give you guys something to think about.

Is Heisie Godzilla, really that more powerful than Showa?

Now stay with me on this. Sure, his beam must be more powerful. It does tend to make bigger explosions, but that doesn't necessarily mean there is a gigantic gap in power difference. Think about Grand Ghidorah's beams against Rainbow Mothra. He was injured pretty easily. He travels back in time to fight Cretaceous Ghidorah, who's weapons have bigger explosions, and what happens? Well, she's hurt, but not as much as when she was struck by gravity bolts that caused smaller explosions. Now, I'm not saying that Showa Godzilla has a stronger ray, but is there really such a big difference in power? Or are we chalking a lot of stuff up to better special effects?

A big reason to why many see Heisei Godzilla to be more powerful is his durability. He went swimming under the mantle for crying out loud! But remember folks, Showa Godzilla has some pretty cool durability feats too. He took a cutter beam able to chop through a mountain, revolving missiles able to uproot entire city blocks, acid that makes Biollante's look safe in comparison, spider venom in the eye, (remember what a funnel web or black widow can do to a human.), toxic gas capable of melting steel, etc. Showa Godzilla's hide was breached in five films out of fifteen. Heisei's was breached in four out of seven. Showa seems to have a slightly better track record in the durability department. But heisei does have superior regeneration.

However, Showa Godzilla is faster, smarter, and has better T&C capabilities to Heisei. And they share roughly the same amount of strength. heist, of course, has a nuclear pulse, but how often does can he use that thing? Perhaps Heisei is stronger, or perhaps they really aren't that different in power after all. Each have their own strengths and weaknesses. It's always possible that Heisei Godzilla may be a little bit overrated, due to the powerful nature of the enemies he tends to fight and better special effects.

Just a thought.

[GojiFan]

Seriously, you people give Showa Ghidorah WAY too much credit.

I personally think its the other way around. But whatever. Get back to me when Heisei Ghidorah destroys at least one planet, fights against at least three monsters at the same time, and destroy a city in less than a minute. Then I might consider him being as powerful as the Showa version.

Get back to me when Showa Ghidorah shows any semblance of intelligence during a fight, uses flight for more than escaping, and has any sort of melee skill.

The problem with your argument is everyone knows they won;t happen. Those same things do not make Ghidorah powerful either. Titanosaurus' tail was capable of doing tons of damage to cities, but no one claims that it is some super powerful weapon. Destroying a city is not impressive. Neither is destroying a planet's surface (given there is no time frame).

[miguelnuva]

Seriously, you people give Showa Ghidorah WAY too much credit.

I personally think its the other way around. But whatever. Get back to me when Heisei Ghidorah destroys at least one planet, fights against at least three monsters at the same time, and destroy a city in less than a minute. Then I might consider him being as powerful as the Showa version.

Get back to me when Showa Ghidorah shows any semblance of intelligence during a fight, uses flight for more than escaping, and has any sort of melee skill.

He runs away when he's losing that shows me he has plenty of brains. The one time he is unable to escape he gets killed. You know now that I think about it Showa Ghidorah was probably destroying planets because there was no monsters to fight him before I mean if Godzilla and Rodan were left unchecked they could be planet destroyers.