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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Vinv1989 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:31 pm

I thought he was awesome defiantly my favorite personally out of the Millennium series. But overall favorite no, that goes to Godzilla (Heisei).
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Goji » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:27 pm

Pssh, those eyebrows were bad ass! I loved them personally, but I know they irk some people. Honestly I thought he looked sillier in GHIDORAH when they gave him those MASSIVE eyes, yet he still retained the eyebrows that were supposed to make him look more menacing. It wasn't really distracting or anything, but the contrast between the two just doesn't look right to me. The changes that were made to it were probably a good idea though, to fit the more lighthearted tone to the monster scenes in that film.

As for the GFW Godzilla, it's one of my least favorite Godzilla designs. Right there with the Always 2 Godzilla, and the SOG suit. I just don't really like anything about it, and thought it's execution on screen was awful. It just always looked really awkward on screen , IMO.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Tyler » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:00 pm

Godzilla '64 is where it's at, yo. Those eyebrow ridges should be a constant in Godzilla designs. Same with little pointy ears, although he kind of lost those as the Showa era went on. And his fourth toe...
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:12 pm

MosuGoji's face was executed horrible. Too floppy.

To be frank about this situation, very few Godzilla suits were adequately executed.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Arrow » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:18 pm

I actually like MosuGoji's face - including the wobbly-lip. The eyebrows were a nice touch. I can see why others wouldn't care for it, but I think it was the best Showa suit along with the original.

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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby JVM » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:05 pm

The GFW suit really isn't too bad. There's not really any complaints I agree with. It's a "not as good" deal to me, not a "too bad".
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Gigan X3 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:33 am

JVM wrote:The GFW suit really isn't too bad. There's not really any complaints I agree with. It's a "not as good" deal to me, not a "too bad".


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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby KaijuMaster » Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:33 am

The Final Wars Godzilla for me was not the best. I much prefer the "GhidoGoji" suit from 1991's Godzilla Vs King Ghidorah. For me the GFW Godzilla was too slender (although that was down to Toho wanting him to be more of an athletic fighter).
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby GodzillaDude » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:21 am

I liked the suit. The face wasn't one of my favorites but I didn't think it was bad.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Lionblaze » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:25 am

I liked how he was portrayed in FW. I liked the suit and his fighting style.
His beam was portrayed like it has alot of force and power behind it.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Old Gregg » Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:43 pm

Fianl Wars design is okay. I prefer the 99-00 and the '64 designs.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Lamango » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:43 am

GodzillaDude wrote:Hey the finally suespended Lamango. :)

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Lol, if he can see this still, I bet Lamango is freakin' pissed at all this but can't say anything XD but anyway... And now, back to our thread...

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As for the suits. Yeah. Give me a godzilla who, if he turns the wrong way, the dorsal spines grind together. Give me a godzilla with lifeless doll eyes. Give me a godzilla who doesn't even have a throat behind his tongue. GFW sure is a great suit, ain't it? :roll: With all the other suits, the eyes sometimes moved, even blinked, or had a small light inside them to make them dim when he's feeling week. He had a throat a few times, showing it when he roared to the camera. Hell, sometimes the tongue moved. GFW has none of this. His suit was put together so sloppily, you can see the eyeholes in the throat more than in the Showa series.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby GodzillaXGomoraFight » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:17 pm

Lamango wrote:
GodzillaDude wrote:Hey the finally suespended Lamango. :)

Internet beers for everyone on me!

Lol, if he can see this still, I bet Lamango is freakin' pissed at all this but can't say anything XD but anyway... And now, back to our thread...

Hoped you enjoyed those beers, kids, cause I had to drink alot of water to fill those flask. Thats right. Its piss. MY piss. And you're so wrong. Unlike most members here, I come on for a few, post whats on my mind, and dissappear for a while.


As for the suits. Yeah. Give me a godzilla who, if he turns the wrong way, the dorsal spines grind together. Give me a godzilla with lifeless doll eyes. Give me a godzilla who doesn't even have a throat behind his tongue. GFW sure is a great suit, ain't it? :roll: With all the other suits, the eyes sometimes moved, even blinked, or had a small light inside them to make them dim when he's feeling week. He had a throat a few times, showing it when he roared to the camera. Hell, sometimes the tongue moved. GFW has none of this. His suit was put together so sloppily, you can see the eyeholes in the throat more than in the Showa series.

Somehow I have never paid attention to tat, but I guess that is pretty legible.What I did like about him was that he knew had win a fight.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Lamango » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:02 pm

What I did like about him was that he knew had win a fight.

Well, guess what, those monsters where weaker than shit.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby GodzillaXGomoraFight » Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:57 pm

Lamango wrote:
What I did like about him was that he knew had win a fight.

Well, guess what, those monsters where weaker than shit.

Kaiser Ghidorah was not too bad
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby GodzillaDude » Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:24 pm

I never got this. The FW monsters are weak as shit? Why? Just because they got owned by Godzilla? Ever think their not that weak but Godzilla is just that damn powerful?
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Gigan X3 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:12 pm

GodzillaDude wrote:I never got this. The FW monsters are weak as shit? Why? Just because they got owned by Godzilla? Ever think their not that weak but Godzilla is just that damn powerful?


They got defeated by being thrown into a mountain.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby GodzillaDude » Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:58 pm

I know but besides that there was no proof to suggest that they were very weak monsters. Maybe Godzilla was just that powerful.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby Legionmaster » Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:15 pm

GodzillaDude wrote:I know but besides that there was no proof to suggest that they were very weak monsters. Maybe Godzilla was just that powerful.

Well besides astrophysics, there's no proof to suggest a heliocentric solar system. Maybe the Earth is the center of the universe.
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Re: Final Wars Godzilla the best all around one

Postby GodzillaDude » Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:36 pm

Legionmaster wrote:
GodzillaDude wrote:I know but besides that there was no proof to suggest that they were very weak monsters. Maybe Godzilla was just that powerful.

Well besides astrophysics, there's no proof to suggest a heliocentric solar system. Maybe the Earth is the center of the universe.


That's a little different I'd say and besides I doubt Toho would just purposely make their monsters weak and say "Hey how about let's make all the monsters in the film weak as hell besides Godzilla!" yeah I'm sure.
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