Christopher Nolan

[Legionmaster]

Speaking of Batman however, it should be noted that all Batman films have ridiculous things. Every single one of them.

Ridiculous things are pretty core to the superhero genre. Without them, we get things like...well, I can't even think of an instance where ridiculousness was purposefully toned down to a minimum in a superhero flick.

[Ethan]

Precisely, one can see various deegres of usage, but there isn't a Batman film that has no puns, impossible stunts and silly visuals.

[Legionmaster]

Precisely, one can see various deegres of usage, but there isn't a Batman film that has no puns, impossible stunts and silly visuals.

I can sympathize though. I mean, it is true: some days, you really can't just get rid of a bomb!

[tymon]

Im pretty sure some ninjas were killed in that explosion in BB that Bruce Wayne caused. So he did actually kill people.

I've always hated that part - he doesn't want to take a murderer's life, so he blows up the entire building (with everyone inside) instead? Nolan's trilogy jumped the shark rather early.

[G1 Startruck Jonez]

I can sympathize though. I mean, it is true: some days, you really can't just get rid of a bomb!

HA! Good one!

[Tohosaurus]

"Better idea man than director". That reminds me of M. Night Shyamalan.

[DaikaijuSokogeki!]

Christopher Nolan turned Joker into a boring knife-collecting guy who blows up empty hospitals.

Overrated doesn't even begin to cover it.

And implants bombs into living people. And holds two boats full of people hostage. And slams a man's eye onto a pencil. And orchestrates several successful bank robberies with high death counts (including his own men). Saying he's boring completely undermines the viciousness this incarnation of the character has.

I enjoy Nolan's work no question. The only movie of his I would say I dislike is Following (uses its intentionally non-linear narrative clumsily), and The Prestige pulls some ridiculous twists near the end of the film. However, his Batman films are my favorites from the entire franchise. I never found his other films THAT hard to follow.

Inception was surprisingly easy to swallow, and I've only seen it once. I think with that film, people simply thought too hard on what may or may not be going on and just didn't pay attention to the actual film. It's extremely entertaining, and proof that CG looks more impressive when hand-in-hand with natural special effects.

Memento's just a great crime thriller with plenty of fantastic twists and sharp writing, and Insomnia excels thanks to its strong acting and wonderful camera work.

[wataru]

The odd thing about Nolan's Joker... his antics are more Two-Face then Joker.

Two ships - one with 'good' citizens, one with 'bad' people
Two bombs - one with 'duty' (Dent) and one with 'love' (Rachel)

[TheSecondComing]

Christopher Nolan turned Joker into a boring knife-collecting guy who blows up empty hospitals.

Overrated doesn't even begin to cover it.

And implants bombs into living people. And holds two boats full of people hostage. And slams a man's eye onto a pencil. And orchestrates several successful bank robberies with high death counts (including his own men). Saying he's boring completely undermines the viciousness this incarnation of the character has.

Right, but all those things just seem like something anybody could do in the Bat-verse. The human bomb thing was a cool idea, but they didn't give it that special Joker touch. Joker is unique because every time he plans stuff, he makes it big and gives it his own kind of goofy style that only he can get away with, whether it's gassing Gotham-ites with parade balloons in Tim Burton's Batman, taking over Arkham Asylum and turning it into a murderous funhouse in the Arkham Asylum game, attempting to poison Gotham with his own infected blood in Arkham City (not a major plot point, but I digress) or any number of things in the comics.

Nolan (and to a degree, Ledger's) version of Joker is just a street thug with trashy clothes, annoying facial tics, a faux British accent and a comparatively weak sense of theatrics.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

While Nolan's Joker is certainly creepy and chilling at times, he lacks the "HAHAHAHAHAHAH" of the Joker. And the "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH" isn't just some laugh. Nolan's Joker didn't have any of the funny, the humor, the "oh God, why am I laughing at this?" moments.

And he wasn't over the top. You can still do Nolan's gritty realism and being over the top.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

While Nolan's Joker is certainly creepy and chilling at times, he lacks the "HAHAHAHAHAHAH" of the Joker. And the "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH" isn't just some laugh. Nolan's Joker didn't have any of the funny, the humor, the "oh God, why am I laughing at this?" moments.

And he wasn't over the top. You can still do Nolan's gritty realism and being over the top.

While Nolan's Joker didn't have many moments where he started laughing uncontrollably, in exchange, I think we got a Joker who actually told funny dark humor jokes. Most Joker's told ironically funny jokes or just bad jokes that only he got. Nolan's Joker, on the other hand, was able to tell jokes that were funny to the audience and weren't funny just because they're ironic. Such as the "Try outs" bit following his "Why so serious?" monologue, or just about anything involving the dogs. Hell, even the pencil through the eye is pretty funny.

[Tyler]

When I first saw The Dark Knight in a theatre you could hear a pin drop after the scene where Joker's got the fake Batman tied up, when he goes crazy and shakes the camera around. Everyone was like, "Holy shit."

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

While Nolan's Joker is certainly creepy and chilling at times, he lacks the "HAHAHAHAHAHAH" of the Joker. And the "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH" isn't just some laugh. Nolan's Joker didn't have any of the funny, the humor, the "oh God, why am I laughing at this?" moments.

And he wasn't over the top. You can still do Nolan's gritty realism and being over the top.

While Nolan's Joker didn't have many moments where he started laughing uncontrollably, in exchange, I think we got a Joker who actually told funny dark humor jokes. Most Joker's told ironically funny jokes or just bad jokes that only he got. Nolan's Joker, on the other hand, was able to tell jokes that were funny to the audience and weren't funny just because they're ironic. Such as the "Try outs" bit following his "Why so serious?" monologue, or just about anything involving the dogs. Hell, even the pencil through the eye is pretty funny.

I don't mean the "HAHAHAHAHAH" is laughing uncontrollably. For the Joke, the "HAHAHAHAH" is a Joker moment. If you read "The Killing Joke," there are plenty of moments where that Joker is absolutely terrifying compared to Nolan's.

Nolan's Joker did get the dark humor, and he might have had one bad day...But he wasn't terrifyingly hilarious.

Things like this:





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^ That's good, but a bit too big to post.

[Tyler]

Following's finally getting a Criterion! It comes with his short film Doodlebug.

http://www.criterion.com/films/28030-following

[natevirus]

Right now, I'd say "Just good"...not sure about overrated but that's probably because I don't talk about him all that much.