Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

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Which Showa Monster would could've made it to the heisei era?

Megalon
8
7%
Gigan
22
19%
Hedorah
10
9%
Anguirus
48
42%
Titanosaurus
6
5%
Gorosaurus
5
4%
Manda
5
4%
Varan
7
6%
Ebirah
0
No votes
Other
4
3%
 
Total votes : 115

Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby Megalon-5 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:01 pm

Like the others who posted above me have said, introducing Hedorah with the sludge eating bacteria origin would be a nice way to incorporate him into the Hesei era. I can also see the more reptilian kaiju fitting in as well. I really wish Angurius was in the Hesei era. He would've been interesting.

As for Gigan and Megalon, I feel like if they appeared they'd be pawns of the Futurians.
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby hammysammy59 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:35 pm

You know, as cool as it would have been to see 90s versions of our favorite old time monsters, I'm kind of glad we didn't, because that gave us more new monsters. I'm also glad they didn't always go for the most obvious choices, allowing them to dig deep and reinvent MOGEURA.
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby Megalon-5 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:05 pm

^True. I do wish we did get some original kaiju for the Hesei era. As much as I like seeing Mothra, Rodan, Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla, I wish there was more new monsters for the era. Plus, I wouldn't mind if they brought back the more obscure kaiju like Moguera and revamped them. Perhaps Varan would've been in some sort of film? But sadly, ever since the 90's, Toho's been stuck in the cycle of reusing the same monsters again and again. It's sad, I'd really like some new creatures and some older, more overshadowed faces to appear.
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby heiseiGfan » Fri May 04, 2012 12:12 am

They were planning on doing a remake of King Kong vs Godzilla but it was scrapped due to the cost of the rubber suit (they were going to use the 76 Kong suit btw). Then later it was going to be Godzilla vs Mechani-Kong but that was also scrapped because of the possibility of copyright infringement by using the name "Kong". And then it finally became Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla 2.
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby Goji » Fri May 04, 2012 5:11 am

heiseiGfan wrote: but it was scrapped due to the cost of the rubber suit (they were going to use the 76 Kong suit btw).


This is most definitely not true, I can assure you.
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby heiseiGfan » Fri May 04, 2012 11:03 am

Goji wrote:
heiseiGfan wrote: but it was scrapped due to the cost of the rubber suit (they were going to use the 76 Kong suit btw).


This is most definitely not true, I can assure you.


Oops. Your right. I had to re-check that information and found out the real reason. Gosh for calling myself a hardcore godzilla fan I still have a few things to learn about the movies. :oops:
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby Rody » Fri May 04, 2012 12:05 pm

I think it was because Universal pulled a Toho on Toho. :lol:

In other words, they demanded a huge license fee.
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby heiseiGfan » Fri May 04, 2012 12:13 pm

Rody wrote:I think it was because Universal pulled a Toho on Toho. :lol:

In other words, they demanded a huge license fee.


That was pretty much the case :)
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby The One and Only » Fri May 04, 2012 4:19 pm

I had read that Ted Turner was the rights holder to King Kong, not Universal.
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby Living Corpse » Fri May 04, 2012 4:33 pm

heiseiGfan wrote:
Goji wrote:
heiseiGfan wrote: but it was scrapped due to the cost of the rubber suit (they were going to use the 76 Kong suit btw).


This is most definitely not true, I can assure you.


Oops. Your right. I had to re-check that information and found out the real reason. Gosh for calling myself a hardcore godzilla fan I still have a few things to learn about the movies. :oops:


Like spelling Godzilla with a capital G. :P
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby heiseiGfan » Fri May 04, 2012 6:08 pm

Living Corpse wrote:
heiseiGfan wrote:
Oops. Your right. I had to re-check that information and found out the real reason. Gosh for calling myself a hardcore godzilla fan I still have a few things to learn about the movies. :oops:


Like spelling Godzilla with a capital G. :P


I did that on purpose to save some time. I was on a mobile device and I was kinda in a hurry. :lol:
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby Zentenk » Sun May 06, 2012 5:33 am

I think keeping all of these other Kaiju out kept the Heisei series from looking like a backyard wrestling match.
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby Sydney Aradi » Sun May 06, 2012 6:33 am

I voted for Anguirus, because it'd be interesting to see how Toho would use him. As long as Toho don't make him a beam spammer, give him a sonic roar & a rolling attack then that should be fine.
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby Living Corpse » Sun May 06, 2012 6:35 am

Zentenk wrote:I think keeping all of these other Kaiju out kept the Heisei series from looking like a backyard wrestling match.


Still be better then just boring old bump fests and beam spams.
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby GreenAiden555 » Tue May 15, 2012 5:09 pm

Hedorah, muh boi! It would've been awesome. Probably some kind of tie-in to Destoroyah... ;)
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Wed May 16, 2012 3:18 pm

I think Gigan could have been tied into vs. King Ghidorah. If anything they could have put Anguirus in Return of Godzilla, would have been a neat touch.
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby Shadow » Sun May 20, 2012 2:39 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote: If anything they could have put Anguirus in Return of Godzilla, would have been a neat touch.


I actually like the sound of that.
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby Goji » Mon May 21, 2012 7:39 am

RETURN OF GODZILLA was meant to be Godzilla's return to form. If any other monster were to be added, it would have been the original version of Bagan. How would you have integrated Anguirus into the version of ROG that we eventually got? I'm just curious as to how that would work, other than it "sounds cool".

King Ghiodrah wasn't a space monster in VS. KING GHIDORAH, so adding Gigan would be nonsensical unless his origin was rewritten. I suppose you could have had him built by the Futurians..but then what would they have needed King Ghidorah for if they already had a monster to battle Godzilla?
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Mon May 21, 2012 11:18 am

Goji wrote:RETURN OF GODZILLA was meant to be Godzilla's return to form. If any other monster were to be added, it would have been the original version of Bagan. How would you have integrated Anguirus into the version of ROG that we eventually got? I'm just curious as to how that would work, other than it "sounds cool".

King Ghiodrah wasn't a space monster in VS. KING GHIDORAH, so adding Gigan would be nonsensical unless his origin was rewritten. I suppose you could have had him built by the Futurians..but then what would they have needed King Ghidorah for if they already had a monster to battle Godzilla?



Near the end of ROG the high frequency sound lours Godzilla to Oshima Island. The sound could have also attracted Anguirus and the two kaiju brawl and eventually they both fall into the volcano.

To work in Gigan, I would add a portion to the film. The movie steps into the future where Godzilla has destroyed much of the world. As a last ditch effort the bio-weapon Gigan is sent out to do battle with Godzilla. After Gigan is defeated Emmy has the idea to go back in time and make Mecha King Ghidorah.

Or maybe add a scene to the part of the film where the Futurians are warning Japan's leaders that Godzilla will turn Japan into a nuclear graveyard. While they are explaining the situation have a scene set in 2204 where Godzilla does battle with Gigan in a demolished city.
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Re: Showa monsters that could've been in the heisei era

Postby Goji » Mon May 21, 2012 12:07 pm

So Anguirus would have essentially been 'tacked on', and would have only appeared at the end? Eh...I don't know man.

Regarding the '91 film, who would "send out" Gigan? Who would he have been created by, the Futurians?
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