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Re: The Avengers!

Postby Zillaowner » Mon May 14, 2012 12:37 pm

Since the gauntlet was introduced in Thor, I wouldn't be surprised if we see Thanos in Thor 2
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby wataru » Mon May 14, 2012 1:32 pm

Destroyer wrote:Just bring on Ultron and it's all good.


Ultron would need Hank Pym as Ant Man or just as a scientist.

I could easily see Coulson coming back as The Vision, as a prototype for Ultron built by Pym and Wasp (Janet van Dyne) and going crazy and at the end Coulson comes back as The Vision and falls for Janet and three new Avengers come into the fold to battle Thanos.
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby SoleMan » Mon May 14, 2012 3:57 pm

THANOS ALL THE WAY, BITCH!

The Infinity Guantlet would lose some of its appeal, as part of what made it cool was that EVERYBODY in Marvel set out to whoop his ass, and still failed.

The real cosmic cube story would be better, though it seems they've used it to the extent of its infinite power...and renamed it "the tesseract" apparently...
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby wataru » Tue May 15, 2012 7:10 am

The Cosmic Cube in the Ultimates universe (which MCU is more based on then 616) can do pretty much anything the holder wants. Would be hard to stop Loki if he held the cube and wanted to eliminate all life on Earth with a single thought...

...so they changed it to a power source and called it the tesseract.
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby SoleMan » Tue May 15, 2012 6:13 pm

wataru wrote:The Cosmic Cube in the Ultimates universe (which MCU is more based on then 616) can do pretty much anything the holder wants. Would be hard to stop Loki if he held the cube and wanted to eliminate all life on Earth with a single thought...

...so they changed it to a power source and called it the tesseract.


They can't just take one element from 616 and use it properly? I guess it doesn't make for a good movie if the villain's subconscious defeats him, though. They would probably have some way of...tearing off his head and shitting down his neck for the MTV generation.
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby 3000 » Tue May 15, 2012 9:06 pm

Little late to the party, but I forgot my password for a while there.


Saw it, loved it. Had massive amounts of fun.
Was by far, my most enjoyable movie going experience since Transformers.

Obviously there were flaws in the story, blah blah blah picky picky picky. It was skreeonk awesome. No complaints or need to change anything whatsoever.
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby edgaguirus » Wed May 16, 2012 8:43 pm

I saw it this afternoon. It was a great movie. The fight sequences were a visual feast, but I loved the way the characters interacted and the bits of humor more. You could definitely see the Joss Whedon touch here.
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby Captain Aktion » Wed May 16, 2012 11:18 pm

3000 wrote:Was by far, my most enjoyable movie going experience since Transformers.


Damning with faint praise or for real? You decide.
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Thu May 17, 2012 1:48 am

Transformers is 3000's favorite movie. So yeah.

Avengers was amazing. The action sequences were awesome, the characters very well-developed and likeable (Cap still feels like a amateur and not a veteran though), and I really wasn't expecting to like Hulk/Banner as much as I did. Loki, Stark and Fury are great as always, and its nice to see minor characters like Coulson have decent endings. The humor is great too- mostly from Stark, but the Hulk gets a few nice ones as well. Also...Thanos! (although I couldn't recognise him at first). The last line about 'courting death' was incredibly awesome.

Few nitpicks- The Chitauri are kinda a non-threat, even the huge serpent ships. Also, the final battle can get a little repititive since most of the Chitauri just stand there and get slaughtered.
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Thu May 17, 2012 7:52 am

Captain Aktion wrote:
3000 wrote:Was by far, my most enjoyable movie going experience since Transformers.


Damning with faint praise or for real? You decide.


You don't know 3000.

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Re: The Avengers!

Postby 3000 » Thu May 17, 2012 8:26 am

Captain Aktion wrote:
3000 wrote:Was by far, my most enjoyable movie going experience since Transformers.


Damning with faint praise or for real? You decide.

Though I recognize the film's obvious flaws, I saw it when I was 13 and up until that point, I had never seen anything like it. It was kind of my ET, just because of the special effects.

So the point i was getting at was, I felt the same sense of awe that I felt when watching CGI robots beat the skreeonk out of eachother as i did watching the avengers.

Transformers is 3000's favorite movie. So yeah.

Incorrect, sir.

Into The Wild or American History X are my favorite movies.
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby Tyler » Thu May 17, 2012 3:42 pm

Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:Few nitpicks- The Chitauri are kinda a non-threat, even the huge serpent ships. Also, the final battle can get a little repititive since most of the Chitauri just stand there and get slaughtered.


I think it would have been better if a single Leviathan was the main threat instead of having dozens of them that Hulk can knock out with a single punch.
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Thu May 17, 2012 3:44 pm

Tyler wrote:
Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:Few nitpicks- The Chitauri are kinda a non-threat, even the huge serpent ships. Also, the final battle can get a little repititive since most of the Chitauri just stand there and get slaughtered.


I think it would have been better if a single Leviathan was the main threat instead of having dozens of them that Hulk can knock out with a single punch.


See, I think those creatures would have slaughtered non-powered humans, even the military. I think it shows the powers of the Avengers. You think the Chitauri expected the Avengers?
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby Tyler » Thu May 17, 2012 3:57 pm

I just think they missed a cool Midgard Serpent opportunity there.
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby anguirusnut94 » Fri May 18, 2012 5:33 am

Tyler wrote:I just think they missed a cool Midgard Serpent opportunity there.

I'm going to see this Saturday, and I'm going to see Battleship (Though I'm mostly there for Liam Neeson) as well. But Tyler has a good point. Why, if Loki is the main villain, didn't he just use his two most montorous kids? I mean, Fenrir is supposed to be big enough to eat the moon, and the Mitgard Serpent can circle the world and bite its own tail, and those would've made awesome foes. Why not use them, instead?

Or were they just waiting for Avengers 2? "Oh, you beat our father, now watch us beat you! Bros before hoes, yeah!" or something like that, at least?
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby wataru » Fri May 18, 2012 5:48 am

MCU is based on Ultimates and as far as I know, Loki doesnt have kids in the Ultimates universe.
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Fri May 18, 2012 8:49 am

wataru wrote:MCU is based on Ultimates and as far as I know, Loki doesnt have kids in the Ultimates universe.


That and I don't think he had enough time to sow his wild oats. There only had to be a few months between Thor and Avengers.
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby wataru » Fri May 18, 2012 8:51 am

SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
wataru wrote:MCU is based on Ultimates and as far as I know, Loki doesnt have kids in the Ultimates universe.


That and I don't think he had enough time to sow his wild oats. There only had to be a few months between Thor and Avengers.


Im sure some Chitauri alien strange was made available to him. What Asgardian god wouldnt want a bloodied mouth extraterrestrial blind folded psychokinetic grey skinned conquistador?
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby kikomia » Fri May 18, 2012 8:53 am

I just know one thing. Thanos is saved for the sequel. The infinity gauntlet will probably be in the next movie. I can guarantee that.
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Re: The Avengers!

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Fri May 18, 2012 8:55 am

I don't recall the Marvel version of the Midgard Serpent being Loki's child. I don't think Fenrir or Hel were either. There are a large number of deviations from the mythology to better suit the Marvel Universe and the modern audience. If I'm correct about that, then he just hasn't made an alliance with either of them in the MCU yet. I'm sure Jormungandr will make an appearance at some point, though.
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