Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

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Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby GodzillaXGomoraFight » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:06 pm

This match is between two rather fragile flying kaiju. Super Gyaos didn't show much resistance towards Gamera's plasma ball, making him fragile against beam attacks. Battra, despite having a tank-like larva form, his Imago form was less effective against Godzilla, quickly bleeding to death from a few atomic rays and bites. What if these two fragile monsters went against each other? The rules are the usual: no mercy, no retreat, and no interference. The arena is Tokyo. Here are the stats:

http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/gyaos.htm#g

http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/battra.htm#i

The result of this match could go either way, but I think that Gyaos may be able to win do to greater agility. Battra's spamming could cripple Gyaos, but Gyaos' sonic cutter may be able to slice Battra's wings into little pieces. If Battra can dodge Gyaos' sonic cutters while being able to land prism beams, then the match would go to him.
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Tue May 01, 2012 2:13 am

Your giving Super Gyaos way too much credit.
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby Living Corpse » Tue May 01, 2012 10:17 am

PopInPicsPresents wrote:Your giving Super Gyaos way too much credit.


Too be fair Battra losses all his armor when he turns into an adult.
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Tue May 01, 2012 10:35 am

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PopInPicsPresents wrote:Your giving Super Gyaos way too much credit.


Too be fair Battra losses all his armor when he turns into an adult.


He still has enough of it to withstand the pussified Sonic Ray Super Gyaos uses. It just barely made Gamera bleed. Battra will be on the offensive with Gyaos running. A volley of Prism Rays will decimate Gyaos.
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby GodzillaXGomoraFight » Tue May 01, 2012 5:13 pm

Gamera did have a huge shell though. There was a scene in G1 where Gyaos' sonic cutter cut cleanly through a large building, so blame it on the nature of Gamera's defense. Battra Imago is not as armored as his Larva stage, and I still think that the sonic cutter will damage him.
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Tue May 01, 2012 5:32 pm

GodzillaXGomoraFight wrote:Gamera did have a huge shell though. There was a scene in G1 where Gyaos' sonic cutter cut cleanly through a large building, so blame it on the nature of Gamera's defense. Battra Imago is not as armored as his Larva stage, and I still think that the sonic cutter will damage him.


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Last time I checked Gamera didn't have a shell covering his head and arms. And as for the building cutting beam, I'm pretty sure you're thinking of a scene from G3 with Hyper Gyaos, not Super Gyaos.
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby Inferno Rodan » Wed May 02, 2012 4:53 pm

GodzillaXGomoraFight wrote:There was a scene in G1 where Gyaos' sonic cutter cut cleanly through a large building, so blame it on the nature of Gamera's defense.

Watch it again. The Sonic Cutter didn't "cut cleanly" through the building at all. It literally smashed through the building. Just like any other beam would. It's a garbage weapon.

Battra wins easily. The only reason Gyaos would survive any length of time would be because Battra has such horrendous aim.
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby Feline-Owl » Thu May 03, 2012 8:25 am

I thought Super Gyaos was a pretty decent kaiju. It's not the fastest monster, and it is horrendous in ground battle. But in the air it's very agile in combat and quick with its attacks, using speed against Gamera's strength and defense. These sonic beams may do a lot of damage to Battra. During its battle with Gamera, I learned that Asagi was continuously giving Gamera power during its battle.

I assume this meant Super Gyaos's sonic beams were so powerful Gamera had to draw strength from its companion just to stay in battle. Although how much strength that is, I suppose is gauged through some other methods, considering it was a small human giving a large monster power. Maybe it's measured in spirit energy, in which size does not matter.....

Against a more frail species like Battra, Super Gyaos's sonic beams may do tremendous damage.

Battra has more beam attacks, but I don't see it as a very fast and agile Kaiju in air battle, against a predator like Super Gyaos.
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby Grayshot954 » Thu May 03, 2012 8:36 am

This will be a good battle. Battra is slower in the air and has horrendous aim but its armor is still pretty descent and his prism beams pack a punch. Super Gyaos on the other hand has agility and great aim, but no armor and a descent ray. In my mind this goes to Super Gyaos for 2 main reasons. The first is his overall agility considering he took off the ground in an instant, deflected rockets, evaded fireballs, and lastly flew into the high atmosphere pretty quickly. If Battra lands three beams then I think its over for Gyaos but hitting him once will be a lucky shot. My other edge is his weapon. Yes Battra does have armor but his wings do not. A few precise slices, like the beam across Gamera's arm, and Battra is hopelessly grounded.

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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Thu May 03, 2012 10:57 am

Feline-Owl wrote:I thought Super Gyaos was a pretty decent kaiju. It's not the fastest monster, and it is horrendous in ground battle. But in the air it's very agile in combat and quick with its attacks, using speed against Gamera's strength and defense. These sonic beams may do a lot of damage to Battra. During its battle with Gamera, I learned that Asagi was continuously giving Gamera power during its battle.

I assume this meant Super Gyaos's sonic beams were so powerful Gamera had to draw strength from its companion just to stay in battle. Although how much strength that is, I suppose is gauged through some other methods, considering it was a small human giving a large monster power. Maybe it's measured in spirit energy, in which size does not matter.....

Against a more frail species like Battra, Super Gyaos's sonic beams may do tremendous damage.

Battra has more beam attacks, but I don't see it as a very fast and agile Kaiju in air battle, against a predator like Super Gyaos.


The Sonic Beams Gyaos was using was pathetic. It's undeniable. At no point in the film did Gyaos have an advantage over Gamera. At no point in the film did Gyaos almost kill Gamera. Gyaos spent the majority of the battle running away from Gamera. Then, when it actually decided to battle Gamera it was getting its ass kicked. Battra will chase Gyaos down and destroy it with a quick volley of Prism Beams. You know, the thing it spams non stop. The thing that doesn't give Gyaos time to dodge unlike Gamera's slow moving Plasma Balls.
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby Feline-Owl » Thu May 03, 2012 12:02 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:
The Sonic Beams Gyaos was using was pathetic. It's undeniable. At no point in the film did Gyaos have an advantage over Gamera. At no point in the film did Gyaos almost kill Gamera. Gyaos spent the majority of the battle running away from Gamera. Then, when it actually decided to battle Gamera it was getting its ass kicked. Battra will chase Gyaos down and destroy it with a quick volley of Prism Beams. You know, the thing it spams non stop. The thing that doesn't give Gyaos time to dodge unlike Gamera's slow moving Plasma Balls.


But Gamera was drawing power from Asagi, she herself claimed Gamera needed it. Super Gyaos had to have been a lot stronger, if Gamera really needed her to fight this creature. I never saw it as either giving the other an advantage in battle, they were both pretty good.

Gyaos ran away, because it knows Gamera's a lot stronger. It plans, and swoops in to strike, then just tackle the Turtle head on. It tried that once in ground battle and that was a mistake on its part.

No advantage, true, but this is Gyaos against Battra, the later which doesn't have a large shell or the ability to heal from others. Its beam attacks would be just as lethal against it. And I never saw Battra as a very fast flier. It'd have to face Gyaos to do anything.

Gyaos is very agile, it can swoop around Battra and use its sonic beams from behind, or even the wings to seriously injure the bug creature.
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby Living Corpse » Thu May 03, 2012 3:09 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:
Living Corpse wrote:
PopInPicsPresents wrote:Your giving Super Gyaos way too much credit.


Too be fair Battra losses all his armor when he turns into an adult.


He still has enough of it to withstand the pussified Sonic Ray Super Gyaos uses. It just barely made Gamera bleed. Battra will be on the offensive with Gyaos running. A volley of Prism Rays will decimate Gyaos.


Well I never said anything about Gyaos winning or Battra losing.

I'm just stating how Battra is a rare case where the first form is better then the next form.
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby GodzillaXGomoraFight » Sat May 05, 2012 5:36 pm

That's exactly why I used Imago for this match. He has some vulnerability, and a monster like Super Gyaos could be his match. Gyaos is still pretty weak towards beams, but his agility could probably avoid spamming.
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Sat May 05, 2012 5:45 pm

GodzillaXGomoraFight wrote:That's exactly why I used Imago for this match. He has some vulnerability, and a monster like Super Gyaos could be his match. Gyaos is still pretty weak towards beams, but his agility could probably avoid spamming.


Until he gets hit ;)
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby GodzillaXGomoraFight » Sat May 05, 2012 5:50 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:
GodzillaXGomoraFight wrote:That's exactly why I used Imago for this match. He has some vulnerability, and a monster like Super Gyaos could be his match. Gyaos is still pretty weak towards beams, but his agility could probably avoid spamming.


Until he gets hit ;)

Obviously and then he goes down, but Battra did really bad against Heisei Godzilla in Imago form. He died from a bite and a few atomic ray blasts. Gyaos could really tear Battra up close along with the sonic cutters. They may not have been too significant in his match with Gamera, but it could with Battra.
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Sat May 05, 2012 6:10 pm

If the Sonic Cutter could just barley make Gamera bleed, it isn't going to do much to Battra who's exoskeleton is probably tougher then Gamera's skin. The only way it'll damage Battra is if it hits his wings. And Gyaos will be on the defensive throughout the fight, it won't have a chance to attack.

And Battra did fine against Godzilla, and it only died after Godzilla TORE OPEN HIS NECK AND FIRED A FEW ATOMIC RAYS INTO THE WOUND. People tend to forget that, something that would have killed any kaiju.
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Re: Super Gyaos Vs. Battra Imago

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sat May 05, 2012 6:17 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:If the Sonic Cutter could just barley make Gamera bleed, it isn't going to do much to Battra who's exoskeleton is probably tougher then Gamera's skin. The only way it'll damage Battra is if it hits his wings. And Gyaos will be on the defensive throughout the fight, it won't have a chance to attack.

And Battra did fine against Godzilla, and it only died after Godzilla TORE OPEN HIS NECK AND FIRED A FEW ATOMIC RAYS INTO THE WOUND. People tend to forget that, something that would have killed any kaiju.


Unless it, you know, gets behind Battra like it did to Gamera. And remember, Gamera himself probably has resistance to the sonic beam because he's basically an anti-Gyaos. As he got stronger in G3, the sonic beams bounced off altogether.
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