New kaiju game from Matt Frank + Simon Strange [Archive]

[matrix]

I looked up gezora, ohhh, thats who that squid is, what movie is he from?

[Blackout286]

This has been an itch that I've wanted to scratch. What is everyone's opinion on the monsters from Space Amoeba? Personally I would love to see this group of misfit monsters make it into the game.

Kamoebas being the most feasible I would say due to his limited inclusion in Tokyo SOS (I think there is a picture of him fighting Godzilla in some stock footage). He would be neat somewhat like a slower Baragon with a stretchy neck!

http://tohokingdom.com/kaiju/kamoebas_mill.htm

Kamoebas, I think fans would support his inclusion (mainly due to the fact that he's the only Toho monster whose a tortoise/turtle kaiju. The only problem is giving him a decent moveset. Sure you could give him some attack strikes from the use of the monster's extending neck ability, but is there anything else?

Gezora is pretty much the only Space Amoeba who could be given a decent moveset without much trouble.

[Supergeon]

@blackout
That's his draw, an extendable neck and hard jagged shell! Like I said he would be very similar to Baragon/anguirus a small scrappy monster. So you would have your shell attacks, claws and kicks then his neck attacks! I will make a move list when I get home!

[Goji]

I've been pushing for Gezora from the beginning.

Yeah, I'm all for it. At the very least, I think he should be included from the SPACE AMEOBA crew.

I looked up gezora, ohhh, thats who that squid is, what movie is he from?

The main site is your friend.

http://www.tohokingdom.com/movies/space_amoeba.htm

[hammysammy59]

I definitely want Gezora in the game. Out of the three Space Amoeba monsters, I think he's the best bet. There's a good case for Kamoebas too. With Ebirah around, I don't see much need for Ganimes.

In addition to the Space Amoeba guys, the other Toho/non-Godzilla monsters I'd love to see are Showa Moguera and Toho Frankenstein and/or Gargantuas. Giving Dogora some kind of cameo would be neat too.

[Tormentor]

@blackout
That's his draw, an extendable neck and hard jagged shell! Like I said he would be very similar to Baragon/anguirus a small scrappy monster. So you would have your shell attacks, claws and kicks then his neck attacks! I will make a move list when I get home!

You have a decent grasp I'll give you that.
And blackout, you have to really look at the creature.


(Just a example pic)

Beyond the extending neck attacks, look at the monster's shell, that aspect alone can give ideas for more attacks. Anything ranging from ramming, to shell crushing, to possibly any forms of body slams. Thinking out a moveset might be slightly troublesome, but it can be done. I think I will take a shot at giving this kajiu a moveset as well.

[Supergeon]

Kamoebas the Megalo-Mata Mata

Move List (StE style)
A - Claw punch
A+Away Double backhand- Kamoebas clasps both claws and executes an imaginary baseball bat swing hitting with both claws.
A+Towards Double scratch- Kamoebas steps forward with right foot and swipes from top right to bottom left, and then follows with opposite claw
A+Down Claw rake- Kamoebas rakes claws from high to low
A+Up Double claw uppercut- Kamoebas performs an uppercut with both claws palm side up starting from the ground

B- Kick
B+Away Dropkick- Kamoebas turns and performs a dropkick (similar to G90's GU grapple)
B+Towards Body lunge- Kamoebas tucks in arms and lunges at the opponent
B+Down Body splash- Kamoebas performs a short jump and performs a body splash
B+Up Mule kick- Kamoebas turns and kicks upwards leaving him facing away

AB+Away/Towards Shell tackle- Kamoebas performs a shoulder tackle using the side of his shell
AB+Up Spinning shell top- Kamoebas performs a short diagonal forward jump while spinning his shell
AB+Down Koopa Spin- Kamoebas tucks in all appendages and spins to sweep (Bowser from smash bros!)

Weapon attack- Extending Headbutt uses a portion of energy bar upon tapping weapon, causes knockdown, takes 1/3 of energy
Special attributes-Like Anguirus, can bite while running

[matrix]

Uhh, didnt you put that in the wrong topic?

[PopInPicsPresents]

Why must there be different energy types? Why can't it just be its own damage type?

[Oasis_S]

I kind of get hung up on Gezora sometimes, not being sure if it's considered an actual Godzilla monster or not. It did appear in stock footage in Final Wars after all. Same thing for Gaira.

I guess because it's the only kaiju series I concern myself with, but I would suggest the "official" Godzilla monsters have priority over other Toho monsters. ...Except maybe Minilla. Not that I wouldn't love having him in as a "bad joke" character, lol.

Though Kamoebas is still at the bottom of my "priority list" for Godzilla monsters. Gezora probably WOULD be a better choice than him since there isn't another monster like him. Except maybe the Giant Octopus.

I love making lists.

[Mr. Strange]

Why must there be different energy types? Why can't it just be its own damage type?

I'm not understanding this question. You seem to be contradicting yourself with these two statements - if "it" is its own damage type, then clearly there are different energy types...

[PopInPicsPresents]

Ever wonder why Mechagodzilla II was so weak to Alien Energy? Because that was Gigan's beam type, and Gigan's "all-edged" melee attacks had a hard time with Mechagodzilla. Why did Godzilla have a fireball? Because it gave him an alternative method of damage when fighting enemies who resisted Nuclear damage.

Here you talk about different kinds of energy. Why can't energy weapons just be energy weapons? Is there a point to having s bunch of sub-categories?

[Goji]

That horrible fan art of Kamoebas looks nothing like the character.

[Legionmaster]

We definitely need Tokyo SOS Kamoebas. Supergeon, I'm borrowing your moveset format.

Move List (StE style)
A - Be dead.
A+Away Be dead.
A+Towards Be dead.
A+Down Be dead.
A+Up Be dead.

B- Be dead.
B+Away Be dead.
B+Towards Be dead.
B+Down Be dead.
B+Up Be dead.

AB+Away/Towards Be dead.
AB+Up Be dead.
AB+Down Be dead.

Weapon attack- Be dead.
Special attributes-Be dead.

Boom. Unique character that's flavorful and true to the film.

[jdude1996]

mr strange, so will you guys be making up the original monsters yourselves?

[Mr. Strange]

mr strange, so will you guys be making up the original monsters yourselves?

The plan is to use original monsters submitted by contributors.

[jdude1996]

mr strange so the ones that pay the 500$?

[matrix]

mr strange so the ones that pay the 500$?

Yes.

[CatfaceFourtoes]

Yeah, that's a good idea, have different Godzilla beams for different effects, one that burns, and one that bludgeons with a lot of force and push-back.
I was trying to think what Gaira and Sanda could do in a game like this, and all that I could think of was UFC type moves. Sanda could throw punches (superman punch?) a head butt to deliver blunt damage while Gaira uses clawing and biting attacks that may lend to close in fighting/grappling or ground and pound, maybe some pro wrestling maneuvers like the football spear/tackle. Things that only humanoid monsters could do well in a fighting setting to make up for lack of energy weapons.

[Supergeon]

Ever wonder why Mechagodzilla II was so weak to Alien Energy? Because that was Gigan's beam type, and Gigan's "all-edged" melee attacks had a hard time with Mechagodzilla. Why did Godzilla have a fireball? Because it gave him an alternative method of damage when fighting enemies who resisted Nuclear damage.

Here you talk about different kinds of energy. Why can't energy weapons just be energy weapons? Is there a point to having s bunch of sub-categories?

That is like asking why aren't all pokemon one type. The game is made so that each monster plays differently, Mechagodzilla is made of metal so the thought was claws and teeth (edged attacks) wouldn't have as much effect. So once you start giving monsters different play styles, such as speed, strength, defense you need to have other ways of balancing them (different energy types). If all monsters were vanilla then the series wouldnt have been as much fun.