TK's Official Whine Thread

[Captain Aktion]

Everyone has a breaking point Legion. That's being human. Push people and eventually they're going to push back. I'm not trying to be a dick but you're not going to get that part of it, so forget it.

Totally hilarious that my posts in the GB topic would get reported. Did you get reported everytime you went to the MA thread just to say something negative? Hypocrisy...

[Legion1979]

Totally hilarious that my posts in the GB topic would get reported. Did you get reported everytime you went to the MA thread just to say something negative? Hypocrisy...

Because I don't do immature shit to that extreme. If I had done exactly what you did I'd say I'd deserve the warning that I'd inevitably get.

What was ebirahsmeg doing in that thread (other than showing some cool photos?) that justified you coming in and starting all that crap? He didn't deserve that. I wouldn't be surprised if it was him who reported both of your posts, because that thread was going fine until you came in like a bat out of hell and tried to derail it with nonsense. I'm glad he had the good sense to move on and ignore you.

And very mature is going into another FB group I was a part of and whining to the admins there until they kicked me off (and I'm assuming Tim as well). Your "eye for an eye" mentality is really appalling. I hope you feel justice was served.

The way you've totally lost it in the past 24 hours has been pretty funny.

[TheSecondComing]

I think we need a praise thread or something, 'cause I totally want to praise Akiton for being so level-headed most of the time considering how often he's actually in debates. Among other people, but that's the one on my mind right nyah. This site could use a little more balance.

There doesn't need to be a praise thread. I can't count how many times I've seen people heap praise on somebody who's posted about some minor accomplishment they achieved that day. It's just as annoying as people sniping at each other for no reason.

[Captain Aktion]

Because I don't do immature shit to that extreme.

Haha, right. Except ignore all of my PM's to you, even the one's where I was trying to figure out WHAT it was that I had done that was so wrong. I didn't have to break any rules for you to ban me, all I had to do was disagree with you.

Plus, if you'll recall what flared all of this up was you going to a FB group to bad-mouth Tymon for something he said here...Sure, nothing immature there, right?

Hypocrisy.

How is my giving a harsh opinion of the GB Ghidorah any different when you show up in the MA thread JUST to rain on people's parades? Oh, right, it makes you mad.

Hypocrisy.

Again Legion, we could've talked/argued all of this in private, but you have literally ignored all of my PM's and only responded to me in public threads.

And I'm being immature?

[Legion1979]

Haha, right. Except ignore all of my PM's to you, even the one's where I was trying to figure out WHAT it was that I had done that was so wrong. I didn't have to break any rules for you to ban me, all I had to do was disagree with you.

I didn't ban you, Adam. I didn't even know you had been banned until it was over with. Not that I didn't agree with it.

How is my giving a harsh opinion of the GB Ghidorah any different when you show up in the MA thread JUST to rain on people's parades?

Because it wasn't a sincere complaint. It's just you being angry and pissed and playing games in order to prove something. And doing it in a civil thread, coming across like a ranting lunatic. At least when I'm negative about something I actually mean it. I'm not doing it in order to go "Nyah nyah look how mean I can be!!!"

Again Legion, we could've talked/argued all of this in private, but you have literally ignored all of my PM's and only responded to me in public threads.

I didn't feel like responding to you because you were angry and nothing I wouldn't have said would have mattered. You think you've done nothing wrong. Oh and again, I DIDN'T BAN YOU.

And I'm being immature?

A little, yeah.

[Jomei]

Cap, if you had merely posted a sincere albeit negative opinion, that would be one thing, and I'd defend your right to express that opinion. But you were saying those things just to get a rise out of people, and your posts clearly indicated that by the following remarks.

That push some buttons? This type of comment certainly wouldn't be out of place in the Monsterarts thread, so it must be cool in this instance, right?

Point your slings and arrows riiiight, *here*. S'okay, I can take it.

Negative opinions are allowed. But you made it abundantly clear in these posts that you were trying to start something with certain people. You literally challenged people to attack you for your post, and if that isn't the very definition of "flame baiting," I'm not sure what is.

I like you Aktion, but I can't defend you on this one.

[Captain Aktion]

Banned for asking to see the approved list of things it's OK for me to get excited about? That's all it took.

Don't act like that isn't a fair question for me to ask you, Legion, especially in the thread I posted in. Y'know, the one where you went to the otherside of the internet so you could call another collector a "F'ing R'tard" for his personal choices? Remember that one?

You sit and admit that you and Greg can be a tough pill to swallow, yet I'm totally out of line for DEFENDING people?

If I'm mad about anything at this point, Mike, it's that I CANNOT fathom the hypocrisy going on here...It's like, literally hurting my head.

P.S. Actually, that is how I feel about the GB Ghidorah. It ain't the best thing I've ever seen. *gasp* And I can get how you might think that about my post, Jim, but had I not typed those two lines, I'd be accused of thinking/doing it for those reasons anyways. I figured I'd just be open about how I thought the responses would go down.

[Legion1979]

^Uh huh.

This feels like that Simpsons episode "Homer's Enemy" where, by just being himself, Homer pushes Frank Grimes too far, Grimes goes insane and starts trying to act like Homer. "I'm returning to work without washing my hands, but that's ok, because I'm Homer Simpson! Give me a raise!". And in the end he dies.

Food for thought.

[Jomei]

Aktion, you know, yesterday I felt Legion stepped over the line. I said so in his Facebook group, and I told him privately as well. But you're certainly doing your part to foster hostility here, too. For everyone's sanity, can the parties involved in this little fight just step away from the keyboard and let this feud die? It's wasting a lot of skreeonk time and giving me a headache.

[RedZillaKing]

You don't see just a little hypocrisy here? The only reason people got worked up was because Cap was bad mouthing their toys. Granted Cap gave them a free pass by admitting later that he was just doing it to harass them... but I seem to recall the time IR dared yo express a negative opinion about stylized figures and he received the same sort of reception.

I personally happen to find Bullmark figures to be ugly as sin. They're rainbow colored chunks of plastic that barely resemble the monsters they're supposedly base on. And you know what? I don't give a solid shit if they didn't have the tech back then, don't care if we owe the current lines' existence to them, don't give a damnable if the hideous Colorado were a ploy to catch childrens' eyes. They're hideous. With a few very rare exceptions (Gezora. Hes just so cute).

Do I feel the need to express that opinion all over the threads when someone posts a pic of a Bullmark figure they just scored?

Edit: you know Homeowner I feel sorry for you. You seem to want to keep the peace and some people just cant seem to get along.

[Captain Aktion]

^Uh huh.

This feels like that Simpsons episode "Homer's Enemy" where, by just being himself, Homer pushes Frank Grimes too far, Grimes goes insane and starts trying to act like Homer. "I'm returning to work without washing my hands, but that's ok, because I'm Homer Simpson! Give me a raise!". And in the end he dies.

Food for thought.

In the end, everything Frank said about Homer was true. If anything, it illustrates how those who try to be better are often the one's who pay the punishment for others lack of human effort and empathy.

Food for thought.

And am dropping it now, Jim. It's not getting anyone any where and nothing we say here is going to change any minds about it all. Dropped.

[RedZillaKing]

It changed Jomei to homeowner. Lol. And Colors to Colorado. skreeonk you autocorrect!

Edit: Anyways, there are.points on both sides. Even I have to admit to some trollish shenanigans yesterday. We really should all just agree to drop this silly conflict once and for all. Legion I'm going to apologize for any unnecessary antagonism yesterday and hopefully we can all agree to disagree and go our merry way. I mean, we're all Godzilla fans tight?

[Legion1979]

See this is why the "Bullmarks are ugly" shtick doesn't work, at least for me. I LIKE the MonsterArts. They're cool toys. I have Godzilla and Mechagodzilla and will probably buy the Space Godzilla eventually. I have no issue with these.

What I DO have an issue with (and a lot of other people do as well) is the overdone (and in my opinion) played out level of hype this series is getting. People are seriously losing their shit over these toys. That one guy who lives and breathes these toys over at Club Tokyo, despite never spending his own money on them and only getting a MG through a contest, is a good example of how weird this all feels to me. Then there's this rabid belief that we'll get everything our hearts desire from this line, which is somewhat tolerable until the person who says "Now back up a minute..." suddenly gets attacked for not wishing for the moon and the stars. And of course this sudden knee-jerk "I don't need vinyls anymore! MonsterArts is here!" reaction that seems to get worse every week is disconcerting to anyone who has spent a lifetime collecting vinyl. I personally think people who are getting pissed at me for saying what I feel and being vocal about it just don't understand my point of view.

As far as Adam is concerned, he was given several warnings to not be so defensive, argumentative and snarky on my group. He was given several chances, pushed several people too far and ended up being booted. And now...surprise...he's venting here over and over again despite being told to stop. Anyone see a pattern?

Either way, I'm done. I don't want to continue this. Adam got his revenge and got me removed from a group I had been a member of for a long time, even though I wasn't the one responsible for his ban from my group. I hope he's proud of that, even though he won't own up to it here.

[Captain Aktion]

And am dropping it now

Anyone? Any takers?

[RedZillaKing]

@Legion: Check my edit for an apology. Anyways, the whole point is that my opinion of the Bullmark figures is a negative one in general. Its not a "schtick" it's an actual opinion. One that I keep to myself because I really don't like to rattle people. Especially about things they really like.

[Legion1979]

Check my edit for an apology. Anyways, the whole point is that my opinion of the Bullmark figures is a negative one in general. Its not a "schtick" it's an actual opinion. One that I keep to myself because I really don't like to rattle people. Especially about things they really like.

It's not shtick coming from you. It's shtick in general. A lot of people in the past have pulled that nonsense as a low blow to people who collect those types of toys. Monster Master was good at that.

[TokyoVigilante]

And am dropping it now

Anyone? Any takers?

Your ego is suffocating. It's a shame that someone so well spoken is so impossibly unpleasant.

You said you dropped it. Why not stand by your word? Is one more quippy post really necessary? What have you accomplished? Unbelievable.

If you said you dropped it, the thought of responding to this won't even occur to you. But you will regardless.

[Spirit Ghidorah 2010]

I want to whine about the tsunami-sized ass-pain that's been going on between watsy and Jomei.

Like, really? Did someone insult the other's mother when I wasn't looking or something? When the hell did it end up like this?

[Jomei]

I want to whine about the tsunami-sized ass-pain that's been going on between watsy and Jomei.

Like, really? Did someone insult the other's mother when I wasn't looking or something? When the hell did it end up like this?

You're about a day and a half and several pages of toy trash talk late for this.

[RedZillaKing]

It's not shtick coming from you. It's shtick in general. A lot of people in the past have pulled that nonsense as a low blow to people who collect those types of toys. Monster Master was good at that.

As long as you understand that my opinions are genuine. I honestly like you most of the time and you bring a lot of useful knowledge to the site. I'm finished arguing about figures. Hopefully all discussions in the future can be kept civil.

One last thing though: I think its amazing what a positive chord the SHM figures have struck in the fandom. People who never collected Godzilla figures before are buying them. I feel like the insane hype is a good thing, as it exposes Godzilla collectibles to a different crowd. As long as its actually coming from someone who actually collects the figures.