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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Svitska Donkun » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:41 pm

Mr. Strange wrote:[b]I've made several monster squids with my team in the Rampage games. Cal, Natalie, Jill (google them) all fit that bill.


But Gezora is already a monster within the Toho universe, has many fans within the donation base, and would fit in well with the other monsters aesthetically

I'm not familiar with Garagantua, but if he's a big human that seems pretty trivial.


You are aware of Frankenstein vs. Baragon, right? I recall Baragon being one of your favorites, so I assume you know of his original film. Frankenstein, in the film, is technically a Garagantua. There is a direct sequel to the film called War of the Gargantuas, which is a fan favorite. In the film its established that Frankenstein split into two monsters, Sanda(Who is orange, kind hearted and lives in the mountains) and Gaira(Who is green, evil, and lives in the sea.) They are pretty much the same monster, just different colors and different personalities, but same fighting style. and they are humanoid. Both are covered in fur, however. The original Frankenstein they spawned from was bare skinned.

[quote]Your second paragraph is rather unclear - what is "unlikely now" ? I totally intend to have several "releases" with all-original monsters. Do you mean license the characters from WoTM as a release? Or do you mean contact them for design or engine advice?[quote]

What you intend does not necessarily mean what we get, at this point it seems as if its more in favor of Toho monsters taking priority in whatever game we create, in the default, first version, rather than original monsters first. That's what I meant. And what I mean for the latter s actually all three. Any consideration towards them in acquiring characters or help in development?
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Legionmaster » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:43 pm

Svitska Donkun wrote:But the ability to change color and camouflage are a distinct attribute of cuttlefish.

Wat. All octopuses and squids can do it too.

You still haven't refuted the fact that he's in the shape of a cuttlefish, not a squid.

Shooting ice beams would be cool.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Living Corpse » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:48 pm

Oh boy, hope I can clear up some confusion, Mr. Strange. This is the Frankenstein (monster) they are referring to.

http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/frankenstein.htm

And here are Sanda and Gaira.

http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/sanda.htm

http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/gaira.htm

Gaira was mentioned in the first Kiryu film along with several other monsters, and Baragon's first film had him fighting Frankenstein before showing up in Destroy All Monsters so technically they are a part of the Godzilla universe a bit barely.

On a side note Kambeoas also showed up in Tokyo S.O.S. as a dead corpse with Godzilla's slash marks in it's neck.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Svitska Donkun » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:50 pm

Living Corpse wrote:Oh boy, hope I can clear up some confusion, Mr. Strange. This is the Frankenstein (monster) they are referring to.


I thought I did a fine job explaining. =[

so technically they are a part of the Godzilla universe a bit barely.


More so than Varan.....
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Crocodile » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:36 pm

Legionmaster wrote:
Svitska Donkun wrote:But the ability to change color and camouflage are a distinct attribute of cuttlefish.

Wat. All octopuses and squids can do it too.

You still haven't refuted the fact that he's in the shape of a cuttlefish, not a squid.

Shooting ice beams would be cool.


I thought Gezora just fired full on Mana blasts out his tentacles?
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:44 pm

Svitska Donkun wrote:Mr. Strange, can I get a comment on the Possibilty of Gargantua's or Gezora in the game? A swuid is a unique monster within the roster, and the Garagantua's could easily be ONE gargantua with 3 different skins, being Sanda, Gaira, and Frankenstein(Who is Public Domain).


Or...

A giant ape.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Svitska Donkun » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:49 pm

Kaiju-King42 wrote:Or...

A giant ape.


Ape physiology is far different from an upright, humanoid, being. Different skeletons, different muscle mass, different proportions. Unless you were to go with Toho-Kong(unlikely) you would never see an ape like Frankenstein, Sanda, or Gaira.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby skuzzy-punk-kid » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:42 pm

Svitska Donkun wrote:
Kaiju-King42 wrote:Or...

A giant ape.


Ape physiology is far different from an upright, humanoid, being. Different skeletons, different muscle mass, different proportions. Unless you were to go with Toho-Kong(unlikely) you would never see an ape like Frankenstein, Sanda, or Gaira.


I agree with the morphological differences between Kong and the Gargantuas. Even if they used the Toho incarnation, Kong's arms are still much longer than the Gargantuas. Conversely, the Gargantuas' legs are longer in proportion than Kong's. And I do recall reading somewhere that the Gargantuas were about as tall as Baragon (each). Judging by morphology, Jet Jaguar's stance would not work...nor Orga's (despite the fact that Orga also has proportionately long arms). Orga's arms are far longer in proportion than Kong's. Animations will have to be created from scratch for Kong's frame; every ape creature in my view needs the chest-beating animation. But the Gargantua's (on the other hand), chest-beating doesn't really suit them...
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Svitska Donkun » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:54 pm

The young-blood is smart.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby skuzzy-punk-kid » Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:05 am

Svitska Donkun wrote:The young-blood is smart.


You flatter me. I wish I was as young as you described...
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Gyaos » Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:40 am

So whats this im hearing of this being a PC only game?
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby miguelnuva » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:18 am

Gaira is as much apart of the Godzilla universe as Varan so he could get in on the TOHO only lets Godzilla monsters in the games.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:40 am

Toho Kingdom, the only place where kaiju fans will argue whether Gezora is a squid or cuttlefish (he's a cuttlefish, I'm pretty sure they confirm that on a bonus feature on the DVD). If he's included it would be a nice nod to Toho Kingdom if Gezora shot lasers out his eyes, it seems to be a running gag here.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby GIGAN05 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:56 am

Wow, Zone Fighter seems to be quite the popular fan choice. He would be a very interesting addition to the game if he makes it in.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Legionmaster » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:10 am

Crocodile wrote:I thought Gezora just fired full on Mana blasts out his tentacles?

Well that's obviously his rage/finisher/whatever move.

If he's included it would be a nice nod to Toho Kingdom if Gezora shot lasers out his eyes, it seems to be a running gag here.

He fires them out of his tentacles.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:16 am

Legionmaster wrote:
Crocodile wrote:I thought Gezora just fired full on Mana blasts out his tentacles?

Well that's obviously his rage/finisher/whatever move.

If he's included it would be a nice nod to Toho Kingdom if Gezora shot lasers out his eyes, it seems to be a running gag here.

He fires them out of his tentacles.


Same shtick :P
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Godzillabrawler » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:30 am

Gyaos wrote:So whats this im hearing of this being a PC only game?


In essence, it's easier on the fans and dev team both financially and in terms of potential. They noted that you can hook up PS3/X360 controllers up to your computer somehow, so it'll be like getting a console game. Besides, we're all growing more welcome to the PC-only idea because it means a potentially massive roster. While the base game only has about 15 monsters, you can enjoy it and sit tight for a couple months and then buy the 20-monster expansion developed in that time. Another plus is that we'll have access to (hopefully, it ain't concrete) the entire Toho library of monsters, which is a massive armada of kaiju. On top of that, the game could possibly (again, not concrete) add in Gamera and other such non-Godzilla/Toho monsters.

It sounds like a good plan to me.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby hammysammy59 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:48 am

Godzillabrawler wrote:
Gyaos wrote:So whats this im hearing of this being a PC only game?


In essence, it's easier on the fans and dev team both financially and in terms of potential. They noted that you can hook up PS3/X360 controllers up to your computer somehow, so it'll be like getting a console game. Besides, we're all growing more welcome to the PC-only idea because it means a potentially massive roster. While the base game only has about 15 monsters, you can enjoy it and sit tight for a couple months and then buy the 20-monster expansion developed in that time. Another plus is that we'll have access to (hopefully, it ain't concrete) the entire Toho library of monsters, which is a massive armada of kaiju. On top of that, the game could possibly (again, not concrete) add in Gamera and other such non-Godzilla/Toho monsters.

It sounds like a good plan to me.


Also on PC the game can continually be patched, updated and expanded upon. With a console release, it's pretty much static once it rolls out. Plus PC games are way more mod-friendly...

I'm not much of a PC gamer myself, but it just sounds like the best way to go for a lot of different reasons.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Svitska Donkun » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:52 am

Unfortunately you lose the main draw of a fighter game, were it to be released on PC, and that is Local Multiplayer. Another major problem is that while the user base for PC is massive, the amount of users who have a PC whose system meets the requirements of such a game, is very small. I am in such a position. THAT is WHY I bought my console. So I wouldn't have to ut up with all that PC bullshit. I cannot see myself donating money to a game that I would have no way to play at all.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Legionmaster » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:54 am

Svitska Donkun wrote:the amount of users who have a PC whose system meets the requirements of such a game, is very small.

I'm pretty sure this game doesn't have any specs yet. Simon can probably clear this up for you.
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