It sure sucks if it actually has come to it that Predators are superior to Xenomorphs now. After all, the Predator from first movie seemed only to demonstrate feats hinting that it might have been equal to Xenomorphs in strength, like hauling humans bodily into the air from above, its natural claws throwing sparks off of stone as it took a playful swipe at Dutch, moving too fast for the human commandos to react in time, like how it got Dillon, and being able to climb and move through trees with ease similar to how Xenomorphs move through ducts.
Later films seemed to dumb the bestial aspects of the Predators down, not increased them, making them more dependant on their weapons, like modified humans. That was why I was happy watching Celtic and Grid tackling and pinning each other in AVP. It showed that at least one Predator could compete with Xenomorphs on their own terms. The crazy rumbling effect of Celtic's steps also gave a good sense of raw physical power. AVP2 took it to ridiculous levels though, with severely undersized Xenomorph Warriors getting knocked around by one lone Predator, at least until it runs into the slightly bigger Predalien, which proceeds to whoop the Predator's ass as it feebly tries to fight it with it's wrist knife and nothing else. I found the fact that the humans won this game with a nuke and stole the Predator's tech insulting and frankly PIS. But then that could sum up the rest of that movie as well.
A side by side movie comparison of the Xenomorph and Predator clearly indicates what was initially the better monster. The Xenomorphs were more clearly thought out with more explanation of their abilities in the first three Alien films. They were supposed to be biological weapons transported by the "Space Jockie", not some Klingon wannabe rite of passage for Predators to prove their manhood. That was what humans were probably supposed to be for, a la The Most Dangerous Game, with an extra terrestrial twist. The Predators use technology, so what? Examine the original concept art for the Xenomorphs and it becomes clear that Aliens practically ARE technology, with wires and tubes and vents permeating their bodies, and the strength to tear through space age metal bulkheads like tinfoil. Predators are conceptual off shoots of Xenomorphs, the brain child of the late great Stan Winston influenced with James Cameron's suggestion of creating "something with Mandibles". As luck would have it, the Predator in its debut turned out to be something that rivaled the Xenomorph, a vaguely man shaped beast with technology virtually built into it, making it all the more "alien" and able to tear hardened commandos apart for sport.
Since then, Predators in seemingly all cross overs have used Xenomorphs as their whipping boys, diminishing the character of the beasts to aggrandize the "Yautja" or "Hish" or whatever. They certainly were not called that in the first films, while the Alien monicker Xenomorph is actual film canon. Alien blood is burning "Molecular Acid", Predator blood merely glows in the movies and at best served as an ingenious decoy to throw off Dutch. Alien's jaws retract and deliver kill shots, Predator Jaws have so far not done so. That being the way that it is, it was probably a mistake not to have The Predator's face shields and armor be strong enough to resist Xenomorph tongue puncture and acid blood. It makes the tech itself look weak. In the first two films, the Predator's offensive gear was nigh invincible and part of what made them so horrifying. On the flip side, what if Xenomorphs could actually tolerate or deflect a plasma caster bolt? The creature has acid for blood for crying out loud, anything is possible. And it would make these battles a lot less one sided.
Anyhow, saying that Xenomorphs are weaker than Predators is a mistake in this debate, because the very first Predator was wounded with standard Earth weapons. Scaled up, Godzilla withstood similar assault for a prolonged period of time without suffering so much as a scratch. It did not flee from the stream of projectiles either, but walked right though it. It's doppleganger was hit with an even higher rate of fire in Godzilla Raids Again (one of the better if not best parts of the movie) with the same result.
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