New kaiju game from Matt Frank + Simon Strange [Archive]

[Tormentor]

Mr. Strange, I do have one small question to ask, will there be a new Godzilla flagship in consideration? I'm fully aware that I'm not the only with this question in mind, especially during the time period after G:U's debut and reign.

If I recall correctly from Project G, Godzilla 2000 was the flagship due to the incarnation look updated which would get people to view it (and the game) as something different and more awesome looking. And I think due to the incarnation's film being shown in U.S theaters as well. Can't remember completely, but I think those were the reasons. Yeah, now that I think about it more, I think it was mostly to appeal to an audience outside of the targeted community with a more awesome looking and updated Godzilla. Anyway, if the same reasons were to be used, wouldn't a different but still updated Godzilla be more useful to draw in fresh appeal? (Be it from the G-community or outside non-fans?)

Godzilla 2000 is a decently good incarnation to use, but after a three game run, the incarnation's appeal begins to wear off. It doesn't feel as interesting as it once was and soon the urge of wanting a new incarnation within its place begins to manifest. Its kinda like having the same meal every night for dinner, after three days of having the same thing, you'll want something else to dig into upon the next day. If I could kindly suggest an idea, the use of a different millennium design is fairly due, at least when it involves a new Godzilla game. Although I'm not a huge fan of this design in particular, I do find it to be a incarnation that will mostly appeal to both parties (Fans and Non-Fans), and is a fresh break away from the G2000 incarnation.





I'm sure you know this incarnation decently well, to me, it appeals to both parties fairly well. Why It appeals to non-fans is because it looks powerful, brutal, and of course, ruthless/remorseless. Its a modern take upon the character and is awesome looking. To G-fans, almost all of us have seen the GMK film, and for the millennium series, its one of the better films that the series had to offer. The design already has a form of appeal upon the community, despite a hint of flaws that it bares like most kaiju suits, its a design that sells itself very well.

I'm sure you get the point of my suggestion by now, hope to hear some feedback from you.

[Mr. Strange]

Mr. Strange, I do have one small question to ask, will there be a new Godzilla flagship in consideration?

One of the big selling points of this project is that I am not making these decisions on my own - I'm letting a collection of contributors vote. So yes, everything is under consideration. And whatever incarnation of Godzilla is the most popular will be the one we proceed with. The team will have to guide the discussion sometimes - for example it is unreasonable to get every detail of G2k's spikes exactly right. But as much as possible I'm offloading these sort of decisions onto the shoulders of our contributors.

[Svitska Donkun]

I really, really, REALLY, don't want GMK Godzilla as a default Godzilla. While it retain basic traits....it is in no way definitive of the character like the standard Millenium Godzilla is. I can see him as a skin, but not a full character. HE just doesn't combine ALL the most common traits for Godzilla. He looks like some kind of alien Godzilla, or Primeval Godzilla, not like the norm...and a more definitive Godzilla should be considered before it most certainly. It's just that, it's ONE suit form ONE movie, and in no way the norm for Godzilla. While I GET that that's the point....I just don;t think it should be a default Godzilla character. Not even that it looks so jarringly different from other Godzilla's, but it doesn't have as compelling a build. It lacks upper body power, and doesn't seem as imposing as it does sneaky. If that makes sense. It doesn't have the ears, or Godzilla's brown eyes, or Godzilla's nose...or anything really other than its Black, Upright, and has the spines. I'd rather have the personality filled Godzilla we usually have, before throwing this guy in. He seems more like an extremest design of Godzilla. Kind of like an Anti-Gino. Where as Gino took away all traits, GMK-Goji emphasize certain traits to a ludicrous degree. While preferable to GINO, it isn't a definitive Godzilla incarnation, an dI feel that one more universal is needed before we start toying with things like this. and after all, if we are the ones paying for the game, who gives a shit what people who aren't fans that buy it think?

[Tormentor]

I really, really, REALLY, don't want GMK Godzilla as a default Godzilla. While it retain basic traits....it is in no way definitive of the character like the standard Millenium Godzilla is. I can see him as a skin, but not a full character. HE just doesn't combine ALL the most common traits for Godzilla. He looks like some kind of alien Godzilla, or Primeval Godzilla, not like the norm...and a more definitive Godzilla should be considered before it most certainly. It's just that, it's ONE suit form ONE movie, and in no way the norm for Godzilla. While I GET that that's the point....I just don;t think it should be a default Godzilla character. Not even that it looks so jarringly different from other Godzilla's, but it doesn't have as compelling a build. It lacks upper body power, and doesn't seem as imposing as it does sneaky. If that makes sense. It doesn't have the ears, or Godzilla's brown eyes, or Godzilla's nose...or anything really other than its Black, Upright, and has the spines. I'd rather have the personality filled Godzilla we usually have, before throwing this guy in. He seems more like an extremest design of Godzilla. Kind of like an Anti-Gino. Where as Gino took away all traits, GMK-Goji emphasize certain traits to a ludicrous degree. While preferable to GINO, it isn't a definitive Godzilla incarnation, an dI feel that one more universal is needed before we start toying with things like this. and after all, if we are the ones paying for the game, who gives a shit what people who aren't fans that buy it think?

I don't see how needing all common traits are completely needed in order for the design to be completely acceptable. Most of the Showa Era designs lacked the ears, the brown eyes, and look fair average in upper body strength and did not seem imposing. Most of them, not all. I find the it has upper body strength, and I find it to be imposing as well. The common traits are mainly, fangs, four toes, mostly maple-like spines, walk upright, having charcoal-grey bumpy scales, ears, and a decently long tail. Brown eyes don't really matter since the Showa Era, Heisei Era and 00's Era mostly dropped those traits within most films. GMK Godzilla has all of these traits expect for the ears. I really don't know where you going about with the nose detail since the suit has one.



The only extreme-like design traits are the fangs and eyes. That's about it. G2K was more extreme in design then GMK. Large pointy teeth sticking out, overly jagged spines, and a overall spiky design. We don't need a definitive Godzilla incarnation for this game, no one really cares about that when it comes to a Godzilla fighter. Maybe to you and a few others, but for the most part, no one really cares so long as the overall game looks impressive or at least good.

[Blackout286]

if we are the ones paying for the game, who gives a shit what people who aren't fans that buy it think?

Umm...There are going to be some non-Godzilla fans investing to this game as well. Though my friends are mainly Ultraman fans, they are still going to help invest into this project. They do want to play it, but they also want to see a new 00's Godzilla. You have to appeal to non-fans in some form because they might become interested and become more involved. And honestly, if it means obtaining more money that can be invested into having more monsters and adding more to the game itself, then a shit is given. So obviously, G-fans aren't going to be the only ones investing into this thing. And when you invest money into anything at all, every opinion matters, and any thoughts or feedback given matters.

And though I'm 100% into Kiryu-Goji, I support GMK Godzilla being the new face. G2K Godzilla has gotten so dull and weary, time for a new millennium incarnation.

[Captain Aktion]

I'm a huge fan of the GMK suit and I agree Tormentor, it's one of the best in terms of combining all the aspects of Godzilla, IMO.

However, I think we'd all like to see a '64, a '62, y'know, a little Showa love.

[Blackout286]

I'm a huge fan of the GMK suit and I agree Tormentor, it's one of the best in terms of combining all the aspects of Godzilla, IMO.

However, I think we'd all like to see a '64, a '62, y'know, a little Showa love.

64 support right here Although for the most part the 73/75 Showa Design seems to be the weapon of choice due to abilities, which makes sense of course. But still I would love for 64, but maybe as DLC.

[ゴジラ]

I'm one of the rare fans who is mainly a fan of the Finao Goji, but I do have to agree that GMK Godzilla is a incarnation that mostly appeals to both parities. So I support GMK Godzilla without question, G2K Godzilla is a decent incarnation, but I don't find it interesting or that appealing. So yeah, I'm on boat with having GMK Godzilla as the new flagship millennium incarnation .

[miguelnuva]

I think maybe a Showa Godzilla as the face of the game due to that being the Godzilla that was know when Godzilla was at the height of his popularity.

[skuzzy-punk-kid]

Well, since we are all on the topic of Godzilla incarnations representing their respective era's, what about the Heisei era? If everybody's gonna rag on the Godzilla that defined the Millennium series, why should the BatoGoji define the Heisei? If I could choose, I'd choose the BioGoji/GhidoGoji. As for the Showa era, I grew up with the KingGoji and the MegaroGoji (I'm not really all that fond of the DaisensoGoji). I'm not sure if anybody else posted this on this forum yet, but if they had to limit the Godzilla count to 3 Goji's (representing their respective eras), which ones would you choose?

Showa Era:
-ShodaiGoji- Godzilla: King of the Monsters
-GyakushuGoji- Godzilla Raids Again
-KingGoji- King Kong vs. Godzilla
-MosuGoji- Godzilla vs. Mothra; Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster
-DaisensoGoji- Godzilla vs. Monster Zero; Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster
-MusukoGoji- Son of Godzilla
-SoshingekiGoji- Destroy All Monsters; Godzilla's Revenge; Godzilla vs. Hedorah; Godzilla vs. Gigan
-MegaroGoji- Godzilla vs. Megalon; Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla; Terror of MechaGodzilla

Heisei Era:
-84Goji- Godzilla 1985
-BioGoji/GhidoGoji- Godzilla vs. Biollante; Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah
-BatoGoji/RadoGoji/MogeGoji- Godzilla and Mothra: the Battle for Earth; Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II; Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla
-DesuGoji- Godzilla vs. Destoroyah

Shinsei/Millennium Era:
-MireGoji/GiraGoji- Godzilla 2000; Godzilla vs. Megaguirus
-SokogekiGoji- Godzilla, Mothra, and King Ghidorah: Giant Monster All-out Attack
-KiryuGoji- Godzilla x MechaGodzilla; Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S.
-FinalGoji- Godzilla: Final Wars

In my opinion, these should be the 3 (if 3 is the limit, that is)
-Showa: ShodaiGoji (because I love the KingGoji and the MegaroGoji...but there can only be 1...so I'll go with the original)
-Heisei: BioGoji/GhidoGoji...because the BatoGoji/RadoGoji/MogeGoji has been in the public eye for a little too long in my view
-Shinsei: KiryuGoji (reminiscent of the MireGoji/GiraGoji; you'll have to look hard to catch those differences)

[Chris55]

I'm gonna go for Godzilla 91. Millennium Godzilla and Godzilla 2000 are kinda boring to me. Of course, it REALLY doesn't matter which Godzilla is used for those who aren't hard core Godzilla fans who donate. Godzilla is Godzilla and they're going to donate anyway.

[Godz]

I'm gonna go for Godzilla 91. Millennium Godzilla and Godzilla 2000 are kinda boring to me. Of course, it REALLY doesn't matter which Godzilla is used for those who aren't hard core Godzilla fans who donate. Godzilla is Godzilla and they're going to donate anyway.

I agree with Chris, though I think I'd be happier with 1968, if we want something more recent, 1989/1991 is the way to go.

Also I wouldn't mind if not every monster had a beam attack. Hell my favorite SF IV character is Zangief, and he doesn't need a fireball to be an absolute beast in that game. If this theoretical King Kong character makes it in....make him strong and agile and able to avoid beams well, but don't give him one. Maybe make his object throws (assuming these will be in) more powerful to compensate, if anything.

[Grayshot954]

Okay got everyone above this.

Jess Prime only submit a full list, don't do pockets, makes my job alot easier.

Lastly, sent a request to get this thing changed to the main game forum. Lets hope Titano is in a good mood.

[Legionmaster]

I'd LOVE to see Gezora

Holy shit Donkun Donuts and I agree on something.

[hammysammy59]

Yeah, it makes me super happy to see support for some non-Godzilla Toho monsters. Gezora would rule.

[Goji]

My vote goes to the badly deteriorated Godzilla '67 suit from GIGAN.



Nah, but in all seriousness. The Mire-Goji (aka G2K) design needs to go. I'm sick to death of it. It's nowhere near the definitive look for Godzilla, and needs to be replaced. I'm all for Oni-Goji (GMK). Hell, I wouldn't even be against giving him pupils, if it will shut the people up who gripe about it all the time.

[Hellspawn28]

I think we should have at least three Godzilla's. 70's Showa Godzilla, 91-94 Godzilla and GMK Godzilla. I know G2k/GXM Godzilla has a big fan base in the US but I think he could be save for possible DLC.

[Goji]

I think that eventually, there should be at least 3. I like your choices, Hellspawn (Godzilla '74 or '75, Godzilla 90's, and Oni-Goji). The Mire-Goji could be added eventually, if demand is high enough, but we need some "fresh" Godzilla's this time around. I think Godzilla 90's is pretty iconic, so he should be included from the get-go.

[Svitska Donkun]

Nah, but in all seriousness. The Mire-Goji (aka G2K) design needs to go. I'm sick to death of it. It's nowhere near the definitive look for Godzilla, and needs to be replaced. I'm all for Oni-Goji (GMK). Hell, I wouldn't even be against giving him pupils, if it will shut the people up who gripe about it all the time.

And you think GMK Goji is? It's had ONE movie. Mire Goji, or Mire Goji inspired Goji's have had four, and one thinks of the Millennium series, that's that series flagship look.

I'd be fine with Final Wars, Goji. It's different, perfectly built, the most recent, and far more traditional WHILE being fresh. But GMK Goji as the flagship? Ech. And how would GMK Goji fit the "Earth Defender" persona given to him by the games?

[Destroyer]

I honestly think the 2000 look SHOULD be his definitive appearance.

I'm beginning to like the look of the 90's one less and less nowadays, but I'm fine with the Final Wars one to be his new definitive look, but I still think the 2000 one should stay.