why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

[BigBaragon]

I keep thinking of Gomess...the 'frilled' Godzilla....heh.

I had read that the various Godzilla suits were re-used several times for various other kaiju...just slips my mind now as to which ones.

Jiraz? Garen? Hell if I remember now...

Jiras is the frilled one

Good lookin out! What are the OTHERS that re-use the G suits, in part or whole??

...Then WHO is Gomess??

(Early senility here....ughhh..)

[Space Hunter M]

Gomess is one of the first monster featured Ultra Q. His costume is a heavily modified version of the 1964 Godzilla suit.

[Megalon-5]

Gomess was another monster that used a Godzilla suit, although it was modified a lot more compared to Jiras.

Some other monster suits like King Kong, Manda, Maguma and Baragon were reused and modified for Ultra Q and Ultraman monsters. Baragon's suit was in poor condition due to being used for all kinds of monsters, which is why he barely gets any screen time in DAM.

[BigBaragon]

Gomess is one of the first monster featured Ultra Q. His costume is a heavily modified version of the 1964 Godzilla suit.

Got 'im, yep. I used that Ultra guide that whats-his-name here posted for me. I remember Gomess now.....used to see him now and then when they would air the Spanish-dubbed episodes of Ultra back in the day...

There are many Ultra kaiju that I adore, but I'd say 85% of 'em are SHITE to me...just corny/cruddy designs: King Joe, Birdmon, the main villian guys with the beak faces, Garamon, etc...ughhh...tedious...

Again, though; the ones that I am fond of, I am VERY fond of.
(Antlar, Micras, Gomora, Litra, Bemular, Eleking...)

[Megalon-5]

I really like a lot of the Ultra Q and Ultra Man monsters, but I'm more or less indifferent towards the ones from the later series. But I really like those from the first couple series. I really want to get my hands on the Bandais of those guys.

My favorites will always be Gomora, Peguila and Kanegon though. Those guys just rock!

[BigBaragon]

I really like a lot of the Ultra Q and Ultra Man monsters, but I'm more or less indifferent towards the ones from the later series. But I really like those from the first couple series. I really want to get my hands on the Bandais of those g. uys.

My favorites will always be Gomora, Peguila and Kanegon though. Those guys just rock!

With you in full, amigo.

See, although I have been a Godzilla/Toho kaiju fan since being able to take-in images, my first TOY exposure came in the form of the Mattel-released (Werent they Bullmark sculpts?) 'Godzilla Gang' figures. For Christmas one year, I got Micras, Icarius, and that rooster-headed guy. They came poly-bagged with a cardboard header, heh. I had NO idea of WHO in the hell they were, so Micras was 'Buffalo Man', Icarius was 'Mouse Man', and <insert correct name here, please!> the rooster guy was 'Chicken Man'. Damn, great times...

I remember that 'Chicken Man' also had a FERVENT look on his face, and his hands looked like they were wrapped in bandages. I really need to grab those 'Gang' figures.....they are typically $50+ each, but what the hell, eh? Cant put a price on re-obtaining your 'old friends'.

[Megalon-5]

You owned the Godzilla's Gang set as a kid? That's pretty sweet

And yeah, I totally know the feeling of spending all kinds of money on monster toys. It's like satisfying the inner child in me who never really had a chance to play with Godzilla/monster figures because they were either super rare or just not being made at the time. Sure it'll burn a huge hole in your wallet, but hey, you got your old childhood friends reincarnated in plastic for you to enjoy for who knows how long.

[Svitska Donkun]

Yeah, Godzilla is the strongest in HIS universes.

Yeah, but base don what he is done in HIS universe, and all his spin-off universes, his accumulative feats outmatch any monster/tokusatsu hero within THEIR own universes.

Calling total bullshit on that. Mechagodzilla nearly killed Godzilla in their first encounter. If it hadn't short circuited Godzilla would have died.

Wrong. Godzilla reversed the charge. HE did it. Whether he reversed the charge or used a variant of nuclear pulse is up in the air, but it was still obviously HIM who did it. Very obvious. Clearly it did not work. Godzilla was more powerful in that regard.

Yeah, it was FW. Most of the kaiju were weaker then their original incarnations.

So you SAY, when it could actually be that Godzilla is a shit ton stronger. There's no evidence either way. And GMK Godzilla and GxM Godzilla are equally as powerful. You know defeating Black Holes, surviving internal explosions, etc.

That is total fan speculation.

It is? There's speculation on what could've happened? How? Orga was nearly dead, he opened his mouth and emitted this bizarre soundwave which dazed Godzilla, Godzilla was drawn into his mouth, for like, 3 minutes, Orga was trying to become him, then pulsed. Do you have a better theory for what happened?

[miguelnuva]

Y

That is total fan speculation.

It is? There's speculation on what could've happened? How? Orga was nearly dead, he opened his mouth and emitted this bizarre soundwave which dazed Godzilla, Godzilla was drawn into his mouth, for like, 3 minutes, Orga was trying to become him, then pulsed. Do you have a better theory for what happened?

Godzilla knew in order to destroy Orga he needed to be inside him so he allowed Orga to swallow him and then used the pulse.

[PopInPicsPresents]

So you SAY, when it could actually be that Godzilla is a shit ton stronger. There's no evidence either way. And GMK Godzilla and GxM Godzilla are equally as powerful. You know defeating Black Holes, surviving internal explosions, etc.

I SAY (I can capitalize words too) that because of a few things. 1.) Rodan nose diving into a mountain knocked him out. 2.) Anguirus is knocked out my the same skreeonk mountain. He's obviously not as tenacious and durable as the Showa Anguirus. King Caesar is knocked into the mountain pretty pitifully. The Showa KC took a helluva more serious beating and got back up and continued the fight with Mechagodzilla. And surviving a Black Hole is nothing compared to anything any other Godzilla has tanked.

It is? There's speculation on what could've happened? How? Orga was nearly dead, he opened his mouth and emitted this bizarre soundwave which dazed Godzilla, Godzilla was drawn into his mouth, for like, 3 minutes, Orga was trying to become him, then pulsed. Do you have a better theory for what happened?

It's speculation because Toho hasn't come out and said it was hypnotizing him. And I don't recall the noise in the Japanese version of the film, I'll have to give it a watch later today.

[Berzerkgodzilla]

You know I always assumed that Anguirus, KC and Rodan just knocked the alien control and were just extremely disoriented from that, bashing your head into a mountain seems like something that could do that.

[Goji]

Clearly, that mountain in FINAL WARS is god tier. It's the only explanation.

[Megalon-5]

Good thing the mountain can't regenerate or Godzilla's title to king of the monsters would be threatened!

[Svitska Donkun]

I SAY (I can capitalize words too) that because of a few things. 1.) Rodan nose diving into a mountain knocked him out. 2.) Anguirus is knocked out my the same skreeonk mountain. He's obviously not as tenacious and durable as the Showa Anguirus. King Caesar is knocked into the mountain pretty pitifully. The Showa KC took a helluva more serious beating and got back up and continued the fight with Mechagodzilla.

So? The way Rodan fell into the mountain, I can see knocking out Showa Rodan. And this Rodan seemed more powerful, with his Sonic Boom thing. As for King Ceasar, KC has never been very strong. He got his ass kciked by Mechagodzilla, his only real power was his reflective eyes. But Godzilla never used his ray on KC, so we don;t know what would happen. KC's KO seemed only natural. As for Anguirus, due to his armor, I'll give you that it was a little weak, however there is still more evidence to point that Godzilla is ridiculously strong.

And surviving a Black Hole is nothing compared to anything any other Godzilla has tanked.

Uhm....like what? Seriously, what?

[PopInPicsPresents]

And this Rodan seemed more powerful, with his Sonic Boom thing.

Rodan was flying at super sonic speeds inside New York, Showa Rodan never flew at that speed when he flew over Fukuoka. If he had flown over Fukuoka at top speed the same thing would happened.

As for King Ceasar, KC has never been very strong. He got his ass kciked by Mechagodzilla, his only real power was his reflective eyes. But Godzilla never used his ray on KC, so we don;t know what would happen. KC's KO seemed only natural.

There is quite a difference in durability. Showa Caesar took a helluva beating in Mechagodzilla, here he bangs his head on the mountain at a moderate speed and get's knocked out. As for Anguirus, he hit the mountain at a pretty slow speed too, so he doesn't seem as durable as Showa Anguirus who fell hundreds of feet and and was crushed by Ghidorah, then immediately got back up to fight.

Uhm....like what? Seriously, what?

What do you mean what? You can't compare anything any other Godzilla has gone though to surviving and breaking out of a black hole. That Godzilla is most likely the most durable and has a really potent beam.

[Svitska Donkun]

Rodan was flying at super sonic speeds inside New York, Showa Rodan never flew at that speed when he flew over Fukuoka. If he had flown over Fukuoka at top speed the same thing would happened.

There is no evidence to support that Showa Rodan could do the same thing FW Rodan did there. For all you know, Showa Rodan was only as fast as the jets he was fighting in his movie.

There is quite a difference in durability. Showa Caesar took a helluva beating in Mechagodzilla, here he bangs his head on the mountain at a moderate speed and get's knocked out.

Mechagodzilla fights with projectiles and beams, not hand-to-hand. While he can do it, I doubt very much his physical attacks would do anything really due to his lack of flexibility and no muscles to speak of.

What do you mean what? You can't compare anything any other Godzilla has gone though to surviving and breaking out of a black hole. That Godzilla is most likely the most durable and has a really potent beam.

You said: "And surviving a Black Hole is nothing compared to anything any other Godzilla has tanked."
Nothing Godzilla has went through has ever been equal to the power of Black Hole. A Black Hole is one of the most powerful forces in the universe where the laws of reality within it are distorted. When Godzilla survived the Black Hole, he passed a threshold into "Living God" level.

[PopInPicsPresents]

You said: "And surviving a Black Hole is nothing compared to anything any other Godzilla has tanked."
Nothing Godzilla has went through has ever been equal to the power of Black Hole. A Black Hole is one of the most powerful forces in the universe where the laws of reality within it are distorted. When Godzilla survived the Black Hole, he passed a threshold into "Living God" level.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to get across, I thought you said something else.

[BigBaragon]

I heard that Space Godzilla was sucked through a black hole and ended up wedged in Uranus!


Always wanted to see Godzilla take on Ultraman, ever since I was a kid. Also would like to see G vs. Gamera, but thats another story..
(Gamera 95, NOT the goofy original.)

[Megalon-5]

I wanna see 70's Godzilla and old school Gamera team up. It'd be hilariously awesome!

As for Ultraman, I wouldn't mind seeing Godzilla battle Ultraman or his rogues gallery. I think it'd be kinda funny to see Godzilla fight Jiras and Gomess or see a Showa like Godzilla teaming up with Gomora. I think a crossover would be pretty cool.

Too bad Toho isn't gonna ever do that.