Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

[Living Corpse]

Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla 2 should have just been called Godzilla: Rise of Mechagodzilla. Or something, hell the Kiryu films avoided this problem by saying against or X.

[Goji]

Sony's funny. They could have used the "Against" title for the '93 film, and then simply kept the "X" in GxMG. The problem is even though the '93 film wasn't released to DVD until at least '04, the VHS had already been around since '98. So they were basically already stuck with the stupid title they decided upon in the 90's.

[Living Corpse]

Sony's funny.

Yeah no kidding. "Let's brighten the print for Mges. Oh shit we can see the wires, should we digitally delete them? Nah our costumers our stupid they won't notice." I mean even Sci-Fi channel wasn't that lazy, they brighten the print and deleted the wires. SCI-FI CHANNEL!

[Tohosaurus]

Sony's funny. They could have used the "Against" title for the '93 film, and then simply kept the "X" in GxMG. The problem is even though the '93 film was released to DVD until at least '04, the VHS had already been around since '98. So they were basically already stuck with the stupid title they decided upon in the 90's.

All so true. But the title is the least of my issues with the MGII release, considering the dubtitles for one thing. But all of the Heisei Sony DVDs could use an update and re-release (BRD too please). Of course, I don't believe Sony has any plans for that sans maybe a well received and financially successful LPG. I still wonder why they took down the Rebirth of Mothra trilogy. That was a nice way to watch the third one that they've failed to release to us on home media, especially now with Crackle being on Xbox LIVE.

[Goji]

While it's sort of an unrelated issue, I agree with all of the above, Tohosaurus. The dubtitles really irk me.

[Destroyer]

The title Mechagodzilla II makes sense for game purposes, but it is funny how in the film it's dubbed 'Mechagodzilla' when the Sony title is 'Mechagodzilla II.'

Maybe they were trying to say that this is the second time G battles a Mechagodzilla in the G universe?

[Goji]

How does it make sense for games? It doesn't make sense in any context. That's whole point.

It's dubbed "Mechagodzilla" in the film because the "MG II" title was simply used for marketing. The film was dubbed in Hong Kong in the early 90's, and the films international title is simply GODZILLA VS. MECHAGODZILLA. An English translation of the Japanese title.

Clearly, you didn't read any of my previous posts explaining this in detail. This isn't some "fan theory" of mine. It's a fact.

[Megalon-5]

The second time Godzilla battled Mechagodzilla was in Terror of Mechagodzilla.

[Tohosaurus]

Sony's funny.

Yeah no kidding. "Let's brighten the print for Mges. Oh shit we can see the wires, should we digitally delete them? Nah our costumers our stupid they won't notice." I mean even Sci-Fi channel wasn't that lazy, they brighten the print and deleted the wires. SCI-FI CHANNEL!

Twas terrible. OTOH, of all the contemporary films that could've had that error, at least it was Megaguirus, which was so goofy anyway that you'd almost expect it.

[Legionmaster]

How does it make sense for games?

Because to a normal consumer, Heisei Mechagodzilla is meaningless. Mechagodzilla 2 is a far more consumer-friendly way to differentiate the Showa and Heisei MGs.

[Destroyer]

How does it make sense for games? It doesn't make sense in any context. That's whole point.

It's dubbed "Mechagodzilla" in the film because the "MG II" title was simply used for marketing. The film was dubbed in Hong Kong in the early 90's, and the films international title is simply GODZILLA VS. MECHAGODZILLA. An English translation of the Japanese title.

Clearly, you didn't read any of my previous posts explaining this in detail. This isn't some "fan theory" of mine. It's a fact.

It makes sense cause there would have been two Mechagodzillas in Unleashed, having the II separates it. II makes sense for the normal consumer, as Legionmaster said.

I never believed it was a fan theory, I just didn't know that the international title didn't have the II.

[Living Corpse]

Sony's funny.

Yeah no kidding. "Let's brighten the print for Mges. Oh shit we can see the wires, should we digitally delete them? Nah our costumers our stupid they won't notice." I mean even Sci-Fi channel wasn't that lazy, they brighten the print and deleted the wires. SCI-FI CHANNEL!

Twas terrible. OTOH, of all the contemporary films that could've had that error, at least it was Megaguirus, which was so goofy anyway that you'd almost expect it.

I like that movie, it feels like a nice throwback to Showa to me. And Megs has a wonderfully sadistic personality like when she dropped that pyrmaid bulding thing on Godzilla right after taunting him and widening her smile. >_>

[Goji]

I hear that Toho had the wires digitally removed before the the theatrical release of MEGAGUIRUS. The R2 release is reflective of that.

The reason they're so visible on the R1 could be a number of factors. While people point to the brightness being the issue, I think it's entirely possible that Toho's international print of the film simply didn't receive the same wire-removal treatment, which is why they're visible. The JP version wasn't simply darkened to hide them. The wires were literally removed, as far as I remember. If the export print wasn't based on this version, then the wires were sure to show up on it no matter what medium you're watching the film on, whether it be via 35mm, or on a DVD.

The only way to be sure would be to either A) See a screening of the international version, and if the wires are still visible, then my theory is correct or B) If another country releases the international version of DVD. So far, the copies available in other countries have all been soured from the "doctored" Japanese print.

Anyways, that was waaaay off topic.

It makes sense cause there would have been two Mechagodzillas in Unleashed, having the II separates it. II makes sense for the normal consumer, as Legionmaster said.

I never believed it was a fan theory, I just didn't know that the international title didn't have the II.

M'kay. This doesn't explain why you're so perplexed about him only being dubbed as "Mechagodzilla" in the film. This isn't a sequel to the 70's film, so why would that moniker make any sense? Logic. Use it.

[Legionmaster]

I like that movie, it feels like a nice throwback to Showa to me. And Megs has a wonderfully sadistic personality like when she dropped that pyrmaid bulding thing on Godzilla right after taunting him and widening her smile. >_>

Octahedron, not pyramid.

[Tohosaurus]

In the future, games or otherwise, they should just stick to Legion1979's list of Mechagodzilla (74), Mechagodzilla II (75), UN Mechagodzilla (93) or Super Mechagodzilla with Garuda on it, and Kiryu (02-03).

I like that movie, it feels like a nice throwback to Showa to me. And Megs has a wonderfully sadistic personality like when she dropped that pyrmaid bulding thing on Godzilla right after taunting him and widening her smile. >_>

I liked it when it first came out back in 04 or whenever they had first released the R1 DVD, but after a few viewings it fell down the list fast to where it now ranks as one of the "worst" G films. Just my opinion though. Barry from Barry's Temple loved it and is a more dedicated fan than me, for example.

[Living Corpse]

It makes sense cause there would have been two Mechagodzillas in Unleashed, having the II separates it.

You mean three? Kiryu was in the game too and thankfully they dropped the "Mechagodzilla 3" title from STE and just call him by his code name, Kiryu.

[Destroyer]

M'kay. This doesn't explain why you're so perplexed about him only being dubbed as "Mechagodzilla" in the film. This isn't a sequel to the 70's film, so why would that moniker make any sense? Logic. Use it.

But I wasn't perplexed. I didn't mean for it to sound like I was perplexed, I just found it a little funny how they marketed it as II when in the film it's just MG.

You mean three? Kiryu was in the game too and thankfully they dropped the "Mechagodzilla 3" title from STE and just call him by his code name, Kiryu.

Yes, I'm glad they switched it to Kiryu.

[Goji]

Sometimes I swear you're G2KMaster using an alternate account..you guys seem awfully alike in posting style.


By dumbing down the names of these characters for stupid Americans, Toho is just further confusing the masses. You know, god forbid a Star Wars video game were to call the various droids by simplified names, like "Droid #2", and so on. They all have specific names (Protocal droid, astro droid, etc.), and a rich universe to work with. Godzilla is no different. The various Mechagodzilla's all deserve their own unique names, because they're all completely different, despite all being mechanical Godzilla's.

Generally, they aren't all going to appear together outside of video games, but my point still stands. G:U was the first thing to sort of get things right. The Showa incarnation had the simplified "Mechagodzilla" name. The Heisei one stuck with the "MG II name", which is nonsensical, but was the only way to distinguish it from the original (I still think simply adding a "U.N" before his name would suffice)., and then Kiryu was given his proper title.

[PopInPicsPresents]

What's so hard about just saying Showa Mechagodzilla or Heisei Mechagodzilla? Why didn't Pipeworks just do that?

[Living Corpse]

What's so hard about just saying Showa Mechagodzilla or Heisei Mechagodzilla? Why didn't Pipeworks just do that?

Or better yet, just Mechagodzilla and U.N. Mechagodzilla or hell give Heisei one it's Garuda and call it Super-Mechagodzilla.