Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

[FlamingZilla23]

Technically, Kiryu is "Mechagodzilla 4". Just one of the many bizarre "official US" names given to these monsters by Toho that doesn't make a lick of sense.

Actually Kiryu is Mecha-Godzilla 3.

Im guessing everybody is confusing the showa mecha-godzilla in "Terror of Mecha-Godzilla" to be the second, but it isn't really, the second one you saw in that movie was the same thing just rebuilt so technically he still is the first Mech-Godzilla. In my opinion.

[Goji]

Technically, Kiryu is "Mechagodzilla 4". Just one of the many bizarre "official US" names given to these monsters by Toho that doesn't make a lick of sense.

Don't like the name Kiryu much?

When did he say he didn't like it?

Technically, Kiryu is "Mechagodzilla 4". Just one of the many bizarre "official US" names given to these monsters by Toho that doesn't make a lick of sense.

Actually Kiryu is Mecha-Godzilla 3.

Im guessing everybody is confusing the showa mecha-godzilla in "Terror of Mecha-Godzilla" to be the second, but it isn't really, the second one you saw in that movie was the same thing just rebuilt so technically he still is the first Mech-Godzilla. In my opinion.

Actually no, you're wrong on both counts.

In case you missed it, there is a giant red "2" on his arm in TERROR OF MECHAGODZILLA. He is Mechagodzilla 2. End of story.

Kiryu was the third Mechagodzilla design, so therefore he is technically "Mechagodzilla 3", if only for marketing reasons alone (Though as far as I know, Toho only used it once, in Godzilla:STE.) "Mechagodzilla 4" makes no sense considering the other MG's aren't even part of the same continuity, much like "MG II" makes no sense for the 90's MG. Derp.

If anything, the Heisei MG should simply be called the "U.N. MG", short for U.N.G.C.C.

-Mechagodzilla (1974)
-Mechagodzilla 2 (1975)

Pretty simple.

-Heisei MG (1993). Aka "Mechagodzilla II" by Sony entertainment for marketing reasons, and by Pipeworks in the Atari Godzilla games to further confuse the masses. The problem with this name is that it implies that it's related to the previous MG, which isn't even in the same continuity. Why Toho ever approved the name is beyond me. Obviously somebody skreeonk up in the marketing department.

-Kiryu (2002/2003)-Aka "Mechagodzilla 3" in Godzilla:Save the Earth (PS2/Xbox). Changed back to "Kiryu" in Godzilla:Unleashed (Wii).

[FlamingZilla23]

Technically, Kiryu is "Mechagodzilla 4". Just one of the many bizarre "official US" names given to these monsters by Toho that doesn't make a lick of sense.

Actually Kiryu is Mecha-Godzilla 3.

Im guessing everybody is confusing the showa mecha-godzilla in "Terror of Mecha-Godzilla" to be the second, but it isn't really, the second one you saw in that movie was the same thing just rebuilt so technically he still is the first Mech-Godzilla. In my opinion.

Actually no, you're wrong on both counts.

In case you missed it, there is a giant red "2" on his arm in TERROR OF MECHAGODZILLA. He is Mechagodzilla 2. End of story.

Kiryu was the third Mechagodzilla design, so therefore he is technically "Mechagodzilla 3", if only for marketing reasons alone (Though as far as I know, Toho only used it once, in Godzilla:STE.) "Mechagodzilla 4" makes no sense considering the other MG's aren't even part of the same continuity, much like "MG II" makes no sense for the 90's MG. Derp.

If anything, the Heisei MG should simply be called the "U.N. MG", short for U.N.G.C.C.

-Mechagodzilla (1974)
-Mechagodzilla 2 (1975)

Pretty simple.

-Heisei MG (1993). Aka "Mechagodzilla II" by Sony entertainment for marketing reasons, and by Pipeworks in the Atari Godzilla games to further confuse the masses. The problem with this name is that it implies that it's related to the previous MG, which isn't even in the same continuity. Why Toho ever approved the name is beyond me. Obviously somebody skreeonk up in the marketing department.

-Kiryu (2002/2003)-Aka "Mechagodzilla 3" in Godzilla:Save the Earth (PS2/Xbox). Changed back to "Kiryu" in Godzilla:Unleashed (Wii).

Um no, techniaclly it's not Mecha Godzilla 2,that in my opinion was the same Mecha-Godzilla just rebuilt so it can be controlled by Katsura. They just remade him so he is not Mecha-Godzilla 2.

[Goji]

Within the context of the film, it's MG 2, no matter what you want to believe.

[FlamingZilla23]

Within the context of the film, it's MG 2, no matter what you want to believe.

It's sad that people can't respect other people opinions anymore. You can believe what you want to believe but im sticking to my word.

[Goji]

Well, even though I disagree, I never said anything was "wrong" with your opinion, I'm just giving you the facts. If you want to choose to ignore them, that's fine by me.

Telling me that " you can believe what you want" doesn't apply here. I'm not the one ignoring what's presented in the the films.

[FlamingZilla23]

Im not ignoring the film.

Anyways, it seems unlikley LP would do Mecha-Godzilla but if they do decide to have him in a sequel if theirs any, would people start calling him Mecha-Godzilla 4 or 5 or just flat out Mecha-Godzilla?

[Legion1979]

It's sad that people can't respect other people opinions anymore. You can believe what you want to believe but im sticking to my word.

It's not a f@cking opinion. This is a fact-based discussion. Opinions don't factor into this.

In Japan the Mechagodzilla from "Terror of Mechagodzilla" is known as MECHAGODZILLA II. Like Goji said, there's a big red "2" on it's arm and every single Japanese text I've ever read calls the robot "Mechagodzilla II". The only place where the Showa, Heisei and Millennium Mechagodzillas are called "1", "2" and "3" is in the United States, and not even in every case. This goes completely against what's been established by the films themselves and how the various Mechagodzillas are treated in Japan. It's confusing, misleads American fans who are blindly loyal to "Toho approved" American names/titles and IMHO is extreme bullshit.

[Goji]

^ Thank you.

I'm sure he's just another butt-hurt teenie bopper who can't grasp the simple fact that he's wrong.

[miguelnuva]

I always called the first two showa MG MechaGodzilla and MechaGodzilla II

The heisei MG Super MechaGodzilla or Heisei MG.

and the Millennium MG Kiryu.

[Legion1979]

Mechagodzilla
Mechagodzilla II
Super Mechagodzilla or UN Mechagodzilla
Kiryu

Why is this so hard?

[miguelnuva]

Mechagodzilla
Mechagodzilla II
Super Mechagodzilla or UN Mechagodzilla
Kiryu

Why is this so hard?

Perfect.

[Goji]

Mechagodzilla
Mechagodzilla II
Super Mechagodzilla or UN Mechagodzilla
Kiryu

Why is this so hard?

It's really not. Some people don't seem to understand why Heisei MG is not actually MG II. It was simply a marketing name so that Sony's VHS release of the '93 film wouldn't be confused with the Anchor Bay release of the 1974 film, which was still available at the time.

The Heisei MG is the second incarnation of the character, but he's definitely not "Mechagodzilla II". He's called nothing of the sort in either the Japanese version or English dub of the film.

[Legion1979]

Because some fans cling to "official" names and movie titles even if they don't make sense.

[Hellspawn28]

Obviously somebody skreeonk up in the marketing department.

I guess Sony didn't know what to call the film at the time? They could have called it Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla with some sub title like they did with Godzilla vs. Mothra if you ask me.

[Goji]

^ Yeah dude, I agree. Calling the film GvsMG "2" made NO sense. It's not a sequel. I just don't get why Toho even approved it. Because of it, we have angry teenagers at our throats telling us "Well I believe what I want to believe! Hmph!"

[Living Corpse]

And let's not forget the other title for Terror of Mechagodzilla, Terror of Godzilla.

Seriously, the hell?

[Tohosaurus]

That title always annoyed me too. It'd be nice if a future re-release reverted back to the simple GvMG title that's used pretty much everywhere else I believe. If they wanted to distinguish it from the 74 film they could've done a million other things.

[Megalon-5]

I love how the American TV spot of Terror of Mechagodzilla calls Godzilla the champion and defender of Earth, but then it shows the Terror of Godzilla title.

[Goji]

And let's not forget the other title for Terror of Mechagodzilla, Terror of Godzilla.

Seriously, the hell?

^ Haha, yeah. Apparently, that was a title that Henry G. Saperstein really liked (GODZILLA'S REVENGE was going to be titled TERROR OF GODZILLA in the U.S. at one point , believe it or not!), but he ultimately ended up not using it...but then Bob Cohn ended up using the title for his truncated version of TOMG