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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby GojiFan » Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:48 pm

alienhulk2099 wrote:
but can Aquarion can surrive a attack can destroy a small island since Sahaquiel is a casual city buster?

Yes, Vector Mars being used as Cherubim Mars survived a full blast from Alpha Aquarion's PSG cannon which is basically an amplified version of the Twin Buster Rifle and Super Charged Particle Beam. It reduced the ENTIRE area to a smoldering lava pit. Vector Mars wasn't even scratched.

I don't know what size this "area" is, but Sahaqueil is the deadliest enemy in this fight. It took 3 Eva's AT fields to neutralize the AT field. And the blast area wasn't "a small island." It was something ridiculous like most of Japan being vaporized (aka thousands of square miles).
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby THE GODZILLA » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:41 pm

alienhulk2099 wrote:Better than using no stats or bad stats. Now if MA added some Aquarion stuff I'd be more than happy use it from there. :P


It's not better than using no stats or bad stats. If you have to resort to that, then don't make the match.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby Monster Master » Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:12 pm

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True, I think.


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Do I find you annoying? Like... 85% of the time, but you do help find mistakes on the MA.

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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby alienhulk2099 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:35 pm

Hmm, I guess that's good to know.
I don't know what size this "area" is

I don't know exactly either, but if I had to guess I think it would be around five or six miles in diameter.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby GojiFan » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:17 pm

alienhulk2099 wrote:I don't know exactly either, but if I had to guess I think it would be around five or six miles in diameter.
Which is no where close to vaporizing a large chunk of Japan.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby alienhulk2099 » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:03 am

Which is no where close to vaporizing a large chunk of Japan.

Doesn't have to, Aquarion can mugen punch Sahaquiel right in the S2 Core before he lands.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby GojiFan » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:17 am

alienhulk2099 wrote:
Which is no where close to vaporizing a large chunk of Japan.

Doesn't have to, Aquarion can mugen punch Sahaquiel right in the S2 Core before he lands.
Sahaqueil took all 3 Eva's to neutralize it's AT field, and several N2 mines hitting it at once didn't even scratch it. Not to mention Aquarion has it's hands full with all the other angels.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby alienhulk2099 » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:48 am

Sahaqueil took all 3 Eva's to neutralize it's AT field, and several N2 mines hitting it at once didn't even scratch it.

Thing is though Aquarion's way more powerful than three Evas and some N2 mines, it has enough physical strength to stop tectonic plates from moving so Sahaquiel shouldn't be much of an issue.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby GojiFan » Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:53 am

alienhulk2099 wrote:Thing is though Aquarion's way more powerful than three Evas and some N2 mines, it has enough physical strength to stop tectonic plates from moving so Sahaquiel shouldn't be much of an issue.

*Ahem*

Not to mention Aquarion has it's hands full with all the other angels.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby alienhulk2099 » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:27 am

Half the angels here aren't serious factors in this match though. Plus Sahaquiel is the biggest and is it not primal instinct to take on the biggest opponent first?

I'd also like to point out that a couple pages back I posted a link to the entire series so you people are more than welcome to watch it for yourself if you've got doubts. :P
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby GojiFan » Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:51 pm

alienhulk2099 wrote:Half the angels here aren't serious factors in this match though. Plus Sahaquiel is the biggest and is it not primal instinct to take on the biggest opponent first?

I'd also like to point out that a couple pages back I posted a link to the entire series so you people are more than welcome to watch it for yourself if you've got doubts. :P
And I'd like to pint out that Ireul can't be "punched". You can't kill microscopic entities through punches/kicks. The moment they come in contact, it's game over. From there anything they try to do will just result in a more resistant Ireul and more time for the angels to start pounding on him.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby alienhulk2099 » Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:07 am

You can't kill microscopic entities through punches/kicks.

GojiFan, you REALLY need to see the series, Ireul stands an extremely good chance of getting destroyed. There is a link to the ENTIRE series I posted a couple pages back, see it and then you come back to me.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby Draglord » Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:10 am

alienhulk2099 wrote:
You can't kill microscopic entities through punches/kicks.

GojiFan, you REALLY need to see the series, Ireul stands an extremely good chance of getting destroyed. There is a link to the ENTIRE series I posted a couple pages back, see it and then you come back to me.


No he doesn't. I already explained it to you why Aquarion won't notice Iruel. Face it AH, Aquarion is screwed. He's outnumbered and outmatched in firepower.

The Mugen Punch will basically result in it's defeat in this fight seeing as it leaves Aquarion immobile and susceptible to attack. Leaving yourself open to attack by several enemies is not a very good idea. If he doesn't use it on Sahaqiel then he'll have to use it on Arael at some point.

Oh and I decided to rewatch the Titania episode. The Dream World in Aquarion is basically the same thing as the one in the A Nightmare on Elm Street series. I don't really how the Dream World and Dirac Sea are similar. The fact that they were in the Dream World was how they were able to defeat Titania. The whole arrow thing was something that happened in the Dream World. In the Dream World you can do just about anything. That isn't the case in the Dirac Sea. If they fall into the Dirac Sea, they won't be able to use that arrow attack, they won't be able to escape and they'll die from lack of oxygen.

The extent that you overrate this thing is hilarious. I find it funny that you hate overrated kaiju like Armor Mothra but then you overrate the hell out of this thing. The only reason why I came back to this thread was because you overrating Aquarion was getting on my nerves.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby alienhulk2099 » Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:43 am

I already explained it to you why Aquarion won't notice Iruel. Face it AH, Aquarion is screwed. He's outnumbered and outmatched in firepower.

And I explained how he's not, Aquarion does have a lot of powers at its disposal. Even if it can't punch Ireul it can sure make it combust or drain the life ou of it. Also, what's stopping Ireul from getting swallowed up by Leliel (or a lot of the angels for that matter)? I'd also like to point out that Aquarion does have flight capabilities, so chances are Leliel's not gonna swallow it. Leliel also can't survive indefinite arrow spam.

Angels are just lucky this is Aquarion, I could have used something way more powerful like Sol Gravion.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby GojiFan » Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:52 am

alienhulk2099 wrote:And I explained how he's not, Aquarion does have a lot of powers at its disposal. Even if it can't punch Ireul it can sure make it combust or drain the life ou of it.
Because all of a sudden Aquarion is going to know there is a microscopic virus that is trying to corrupt it? And you don't seem to realize that the moment any of its attacks hits Iruel, it becomes immune to them. The pilots of this thing don't sound anywhere near as intelligent as the people of NERV that barely managed to defeat Iruel.
Also, what's stopping Ireul from getting swallowed up by Leliel (or a lot of the angels for that matter)?
The fact they are on it's team and they know of its abilities?

I'd also like to point out that Aquarion does have flight capabilities, so chances are Leliel's not gonna swallow it.
All it takes is a few seconds of it on the ground. And that includes any attack that may knock it to the ground, which there are plenty capable of doing that in this match.

Leliel also can't survive indefinite arrow spam.
Seeing as they will probably be aiming at the wrong part, It probably can.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby alienhulk2099 » Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:59 am

The fact they are on it's team and they know of its abilities?

Accidents can happen, GF.
Seeing as they will probably be aiming at the wrong part, It probably can.

It happened against Kumba and Nikumba, that really didn't stop Aquarion from beating it. Even if they do get sucked in Aquarion can just open a portal to another dimension and bust out that way, that did happen in episode 24.
Because all of a sudden Aquarion is going to know there is a microscopic virus that is trying to corrupt it?

It depends on the pilot really.
And you don't seem to realize that the moment any of its attacks hits Iruel, it becomes immune to them.

You mean entire minutes....
The pilots of this thing don't sound anywhere near as intelligent as the people of NERV that barely managed to defeat Iruel.

They do have like 40+ attacks in their arsenal, half of which I really don't think the entire colony's gonna survive.
And that includes any attack that may knock it to the ground, which there are plenty capable of doing that in this match.

Plenty? Ramy, Gags, and Zery are the only ones capable of bringing it down in midair.


GojiFan, quick question, why are you debating about something you've never seen in action? Aquarion isn't an ordinary mech, it has like several dozen different attacks that are specifically designed to kill specific enemies due to having so many different pilots with mystical capabilities; it's one of those things you need to see in action like Dragonball Fighters.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby GojiFan » Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:46 am

alienhulk2099 wrote:You mean entire minutes....
Why don't you watch the episode again. It took all of 30 seconds for it to recover from the ozone, and then start absorbing it.
They do have like 40+ attacks in their arsenal, half of which I really don't think the entire colony's gonna survive.

The thing is AH, if it comes into contact, Aquarion would have to start blasting itself to get rid of the infection, which doesn't even mean the entire colony will be affected.

Plenty? Ramy, Gags, and Zery are the only ones capable of bringing it down in midair.
So suddenly Ariel mind raping the pilots, Armiseal physically fusing to the machine/pilots, Iruel controlling the mech, Shamsiel spearing its tentacles through the hull, etc are all incapable of damaging Aquarion? I think if anything you are underrating just how tough the Eva's are to have beaten half of these things.

You say Zeruel and Ramiel can take down Aquarion from the air but not Shamshel, who in only the second episode pierced through the entirety of Eva-01's body, Something that both couldn't manage.

Ariel manipulates the targets worst thoughts and memories until they become utterly useless, all from the safe distance of outer space.

Sahaqueil is a country killer...

Israfeal handed Eva-01 and 02 their asses until they learned to kill it in a synchronized attack, something I don't think Aquarion's pilots will figure out.

Armiseal physically bonds with the target and shares any pain/damage it receives. So once it attaches, they would pretty much need to self destruct to kill it, just like Rei did.

GojiFan, quick question, why are you debating about something you've never seen in action? Aquarion isn't an ordinary mech, it has like several dozen different attacks that are specifically designed to kill specific enemies due to having so many different pilots with mystical capabilities; it's one of those things you need to see in action like Dragonball Fighters.
Oh I have been watching the series. And the more I am watching, the more I believe that the angels can take this.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby Draglord » Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:48 am

alienhulk2099 wrote:Leliel also can't survive indefinite arrow spam.

Too bad Leliel won't be hit with an indefinite arrow spam.

alienhulk2099 wrote:It depends on the pilot really.

What? Only Apollo was able to detect Mongie and thats because he was really hungry and his sense of smell got better because of that. Otherwise, they had no real way of detecting Mongie. Therefore, they have no real way of detecting Iruel. It was just a tiny stain on a wall.

alienhulk2099 wrote:
The pilots of this thing don't sound anywhere near as intelligent as the people of NERV that barely managed to defeat Iruel.

They do have like 40+ attacks in their arsenal, half of which I really don't think the entire colony's gonna survive.

Again, they won't detect it. Plus they don't got anything to defeat Iruel once he infects Aquarion. If they try to combust it, then they might take down Aquarion with it. If I recall correctly, Aquarion is also partially organic. That means that Bardiel could infect it as well.

alienhulk2099 wrote:Angels are just lucky this is Aquarion, I could have used something way more powerful like Sol Gravion.


Did you just confess that you tried to make a match one sided?
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby alienhulk2099 » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:16 am

The thing is AH, if it comes into contact, Aquarion would have to start blasting itself to get rid of the infection, which doesn't even mean the entire colony will be affected.

There's also life draining capabilities among them, which I don't think Ireul can survive.
So suddenly Ariel mind raping the pilots

Not gonna do jack to Apollo or Sirius due to Shadow Angel powers.
Armiseal physically fusing to the machine/pilots

Aquarion Mars uses a sword to impale Armi.
Iruel controlling the mech

Life draining! *like the upteenth time I've pointed this out*
Shamsiel spearing its tentacles through the hull

Aquarion fell from orbit multiple times without a scratch and the vectors can withstand nuclear weapon leveled explosions also with no damage, Shamshel isn't going to do jack squat.
You say Zeruel and Ramiel can take down Aquarion from the air but not Shamshel, who in only the second episode pierced through the entirety of Eva-01's body

Thing is though Aquarion's way tougher than Eva units.
Israfeal handed Eva-01 and 02 their asses until they learned to kill it in a synchronized attack, something I don't think Aquarion's pilots will figure out.

Pierre uses heart breaker like he did on the Kumba twins, Israfel won't fair any better.
Too bad Leliel won't be hit with an indefinite arrow spam.

Too bad Aquarion can also open portals to other dimensions and has done that in ep 24.
That means that Bardiel could infect it as well.

Provided Aquarion doesn't punch his head off.
Did you just confess that you tried to make a match one sided?

I did no such thing.


Let me run down how the angels are going down:

-Adam: Might use the Anti-AT Field, but if Tabris's control of Unit 02 was any indication he's not much of a fighter. If Aquarion lands a hit at the S2 organ Adam's going down.
-Lilith: She could grow to Rei Lilith size, but that's unlikely. If it took her so long to regenerate herself from Unit 01's creation a limb rip or two should take her out.
-Sachiel: The only difference between Sachiel and a Cherubim Soldier is that he traded in flight maneuvering for a field and not even a strong one. Due to Aquarion's armor he'll most likely crack his arm spears upon impact and the cross beams aren't going to do much.
-Shamshel: Aquarion uses ANY long range attack and he's down.
-Ramiel: The only angel with a distance attack that could damage Aquarion. However, Glen has an ultra-high reaction time and can separate the vectors as Ramiel's attacking. Aquatrion could charge up one of it's fists with energy, break through Ramy's AT Field, and crush him from there. If not, Tsugumi blows up the S2 engine with Jun guiding her.
-Gaghiel: Can do nothing accept hold him down for a bit, the teeth won't puncture the armor and once the S2 engine is hit Gaghiel's down. Aquarion can also grow in size, making it more than capable of ripping his jaws off.
-Israfel: Any of Aquarion's better melee attacks will easily take Israfel out.
-Sandalphon: Ooh, he could use his quills and attempt a bite attack! Not.
-Matariel: Aquarion uses his regular guns and Matty dies.
-Sahaquiel: One mugen punch to the eye and it's over.
-Ireul: Rena uses her vampic powers to drain Ireul's life force. Fin.
-Leliel: Aquarion uses the dimensional barrier buster used Tsugumi and guided by Reika and Leliel dies.
-Bardiel: More agile than Sachiel, but that's about it.
-Zeruel: Could damage Aquarion, but if Soluna was any indication he won't finish it off. Remember when Unit 01 used it's hand to tear Zeruel's arms? Not a scratch and Aquarion could tr something similar and with Sirius's sword skills they could be diced into nothing. Eye lasers might do something.
-Arael: If used on Apollo he'll use his Shadow Angel powers to over power the mind rape and mugen punch Arael.
-Armisael: Sirius impales Armisael with a sword or Silvia uses her arrows to destroy him before he gets too close.
-Tabris: Aquarion uses his guns until the AT Field is no more.
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Re: Aquarion vs. All The NGE Angels

Postby GojiFan » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:40 am

Not gonna do jack to Apollo or Sirius due to Shadow Angel powers.

And what about the rest of them hmm?

Aquarion Mars uses a sword to impale Armi.
That worked so well in NGE didn't it? No it didn't, as the pilot felt as if they were doing whatever they did to Armiseal to themselves.

Life draining! *like the upteenth time I've pointed this out*

So let me get this straight. Iruel infects Aquarion and physically controls the robot. AKA is in complete and utter control, meaning it can separate them if it wanted to, or access any self destruct sequences the vectors may or may not have. And you answer to that is draining the life out of Iruel, basically billions upon billions of separate organisms which can evolve to be immune to any threat?

Thing is though Aquarion's way tougher than Eva units.

Aquarion fell from orbit multiple times without a scratch and the vectors can withstand nuclear weapon leveled explosions also with no damage, Shamshel isn't going to do jack squat.
*GASP* The eva's withstood nuclear level blasts too! Isn't that something?

Provided Aquarion doesn't punch his head off.
You never specified how Bardiel starts. Seeing as his natural form was little droplets in a cloud, Aquarion is boned.

I did no such thing.
It sure seems like it from your arguments, seeing as you said half the angels die right off the bat, and only "Plenty? Ramy, Gags, and Zery are the only ones capable of bringing it down in midair."
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