Alien vs Dinosaur

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Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby Kiryu2012 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:43 pm

3 Xenomorph Warriors
http://aliens.wikia.com/wiki/Warrior_Xenomorph

and 2 FaceHuggers
http://aliens.wikia.com/wiki/Facehugger

vs

KKE Gorosaurus
http://tohokingdom.com/kaiju/gorosaurus.htm

Godzillasaurus
http://tohokingdom.com/kaiju/godzilla_heisei.htm#saur

and Godzilla 54
http://tohokingdom.com/kaiju/godzilla54.htm

Arena: Tokyo Bay

Rules: All Scaled
No interference
If the Facehugger get onto any of the dinos' faces, the dino loses.

Verdict: I'm going with the Aliens. Faster, smarter, and acid blood give them the advantage over the dinos. The dinos will last a bit, but they'll fall.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:51 pm

Godzilla 54's breath wouldn't have any problems burning the face huggers, so they're a non-factor. Not to mention that the acid blood won't do much to Godzilla; it didn't do much other than burn the humans, and Godzillas are MUCH tougher than humans. Gorosaurus would be able to take on one of the Xeno's on his own, letting Godzilla tank the other two while Godzillasaurus does... something. But Godzilla 54 and Gorosaurus take this on their own. All the Xenos have managed to impale are humans.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby miguelnuva » Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:40 pm

I can see the Aliens dominating the dino's and then Godzilla 54 makes that famous Godzilla entrance and turns the tables on the aliens taking down the face huggers first then he and his pals finish off the aliens.

In the event that G54 is killed would the Godzillasaurus turn into G84?
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby GojiFan » Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:51 pm

Kaiju-King42 wrote:Godzilla 54's breath wouldn't have any problems burning the face huggers, so they're a non-factor. Not to mention that the acid blood won't do much to Godzilla; it didn't do much other than burn the humans, and Godzillas are MUCH tougher than humans. Gorosaurus would be able to take on one of the Xeno's on his own, letting Godzilla tank the other two while Godzillasaurus does... something. But Godzilla 54 and Gorosaurus take this on their own. All the Xenos have managed to impale are humans.
A smal amount of acid blood melted through several floors made of metal. It has been shown to be extremely corrosive to everything but Predator equipment treated specifically for it.

The xenos would destroy Gorosaurus very easily. Gorosaurus has no way of keeping them down. His kicks, while impressive, are nothing compared to the various feats that Xenomorphs have endured. They are also much faster and their tales will definitely kill Gorosaurus or Godzillasaurus is one impalement. Godzilla will only last longer because of his breath and regen, but he doesn't stand too much of a chance either considering how much faster xenomorphs are than him.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:05 pm

Yeah, I think the Xeno warriors could take this relativity easily.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:07 pm

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Kaiju-King42 wrote:Godzilla 54's breath wouldn't have any problems burning the face huggers, so they're a non-factor. Not to mention that the acid blood won't do much to Godzilla; it didn't do much other than burn the humans, and Godzillas are MUCH tougher than humans. Gorosaurus would be able to take on one of the Xeno's on his own, letting Godzilla tank the other two while Godzillasaurus does... something. But Godzilla 54 and Gorosaurus take this on their own. All the Xenos have managed to impale are humans.
A smal amount of acid blood melted through several floors made of metal. It has been shown to be extremely corrosive to everything but Predator equipment treated specifically for it.

The xenos would destroy Gorosaurus very easily. Gorosaurus has no way of keeping them down. His kicks, while impressive, are nothing compared to the various feats that Xenomorphs have endured. They are also much faster and their tales will definitely kill Gorosaurus or Godzillasaurus is one impalement. Godzilla will only last longer because of his breath and regen, but he doesn't stand too much of a chance either considering how much faster xenomorphs are than him.


Uh huh. And Hedorah's acid (in gas form non the less) brought down a steel building that was still in construction. That same acidic gas melted people far below. Did this same acid gas melt Godzilla? Nope. And I can't see the Xenomorph's t&c weapons doing much at all to Godzilla either. All they have ever done is stab through humans. Kaiju are a lot more durable than humans.

And with Gorosaurus and Godzillasaurus as distractions, I can't see this ending well for the aliens.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby Berzerkgodzilla » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:12 pm

I also don't get how one stab from a Xeno would put down Godzillasaurus, he did survive a naval bombardmant afterall

(I'm not saying the Dino's would win though, but one stab seems a little out there to me)
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby GojiFan » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:52 pm

Kaiju-King42 wrote:
Uh huh. And Hedorah's acid (in gas form non the less) brought down a steel building that was still in construction. That same acidic gas melted people far below. Did this same acid gas melt Godzilla? Nope. And I can't see the Xenomorph's t&c weapons doing much at all to Godzilla either. All they have ever done is stab through humans. Kaiju are a lot more durable than humans.

And with Gorosaurus and Godzillasaurus as distractions, I can't see this ending well for the aliens.
You are comparing people wading around in a much larger amount of corrosive gas compared to getting a little acid blood on them. Not exactly a great comparison. An amount equal to spilling an average glass of water melted through multiple floors of a space cruiser. In AvP a couple drops made solid stone like ice in boiling water. This all doesn't really matter though, since none of the combatants really have any way of puncturing the hide of a xenomorph except maybe biting them. And in that case, the result will not end well for them.

As far as the tails, claws, etc. They have done MUCH more than just stab humans. The armor that Predators wear laugh at point blank assault rifle rounds. The bullets actually bounce off without doing any damage. Xenomorphs have no problem punching holes right through that armor. Also keep in mind a single stab from a tail basically killed Chopper (or Gill, whichever name you prefer). Predators were seen in numerous movies taking multiple shotgun blasts to the chest and more yet still surviving. The tails and claws are very sharp and this is compounded with xenomorphs having way more strength than a creature of the same weight. A single one can ram through a steel door and make it buckle in. Grid in the first AvP picks up a Predator (around 250-300 or more pounds) from far below it with just its tail.

The only chance the kaiju have is if Godzilla kills them all with his beam first. But that probably won't happen, since the Xenomorphs will be all over the dinosaurs before they can react.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:33 pm

The xenos could take this on a technicality if one of the facehuggers latches on to Godzilla's face and, um, disqualifies him. I honestly don't understand how you think they can kill something that could stand up to a military assault. You, know... without numbers and camouflage? Godzilla is death. He's going to be worse than flamethrowers, assault rifle rounds, and small arms fire. Sure the xenos pack a punch (and have steel denting strength) but that won't stop him. They're fast you say? So? What's the next match gonna be? 3 ninjas and 2 dogs vs. 2 nazis and a tank? Did I mention the tank can regenerate?

Godzilla watches the dinos get slaughtered and then sprays radioactive death 10/10.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby Gyaos » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:38 pm

Christ, a Godzilla xeno 0.e

But Gojifan brought up some excellent points, and considering hes the foremost authority about AvP on TK, I'd take his word for it. My vote goes to the Xenos, tho the kaiju stand a good chance.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby GojiFan » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:42 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:The xenos could take this on a technicality if one of the facehuggers latches on to Godzilla's face and, um, disqualifies him. I honestly don't understand how you think they can kill something that could stand up to a military assault. You, know... without numbers and camouflage? Godzilla is death. He's going to be worse than flamethrowers, assault rifle rounds, and small arms fire. Sure the xenos pack a punch (and have steel denting strength) but that won't stop him. They're fast you say? So? What's the next match gonna be? 3 ninjas and 2 dogs vs. 2 nazis and a tank? Did I mention the tank can regenerate?


Grid sure didn't need stealth and numbers when it killed Celtic (who had the advantage of technology, armor, weapons, strength, etc) in a face to face fight. You are also failing to realize the difference in scales as KK42 did. Yes, Godzilla withstood a military assault. But he was over 150 feet tall compared to the xenomorphs 6-7 feet. Getting shot at by tanks is very comparable to personal weaponry when you scale them appropriately. And speed completely matters in this fight. Xenomorphs fight up close and they are really fast. The kaiju's only chance at winning is a ranged weapon from a slow Godzilla. Do you not see the advantage in speed?

Edit: Before anyone decides to point towards the numerous movies in the Aliens series as proof they can't take damage as well as I am saying, the weapons used by the Colonial Marines are much more powerful than modern day equivalents.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:58 pm

We're essentially talking about creatures with incredible strength and excellent speed defeating something borderline unkillable with an incendiary projectile that it uses just because it like to watch living things burn. The only way the xenos can take this is if Goji is facehugged.

Grid is hardly typical, btw. The xenos in AVP2 are more typical, as are the ones in Aliens. You know, the ones who can be deterred by handguns. And I'm pretty sure I mentioned speed but what you fail to realize is that the assault on Goji didn't consist of tank shots alone. Speed doesn't matter much if your opponent if far more durable than you are and has a one shot projectile. Oh and can heal what you dish out on the off chance you can punch through his missile resistant hide.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:02 pm

GojiFan, you're saying that, scaled, a predator is as durable as a a kaiju. When kaiju have not only stood up to military assaults without damage, but have taken mountain cutting beams, missiles that have uprooted entire city blocks from the earth, beams that have melted solid steel in seconds, high intensity lasers, punches, bites, and claws from creatures with bodies designed to carry tens of thousands of pounds with ease, incredibly hot temperatures, incredibly cold temperatures, etc...

I'm sorry, but I still don't see it.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:09 pm

Granted those weren't this Godzilla, but nothing damaged Shodai Goji. A human sized Goji would utterly ignore the shit that wrecks all but the hardiest (atypical) xenomorphs.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:11 pm

If you thought Heisei Godzilla was a lumbering fat ass, lol. This Godzilla takes his sweet ass time doing just about anything. On top of that an attack from behind would be devastating to a creature that can barley move its head side to side. Godzilla could win if the Xenomorphs are dumb enough to stay in front of him throughout the battle. These creatures are agile, intelligent and merciless in combat. What's more is they have perfect cover in the city.Gorosaurus and Godzillasaurus will go down relativity quick.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby Kiryu2012 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:12 pm

Christ, a Godzilla xeno 0.e


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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby CatfaceFourtoes » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:13 pm

Very nice match up. Nigh indestructible aliens vs nigh indestructible mutants and one dinosaur that was able to survive being submerged in arctic waters as well as nuclear radiation. I dunno, Ash from the first alien movie more or less summed up what the Xenomorph was, a perfect organism. I wonder what kind of Xeno would be made from a nuclear resistant Godzillasaurus or Gorosaurus? Heat does seem to bug Xenomorphs though, and Godzilla 54 has plenty of that, so I don't see it getting face hugged like the other two. Still, the Xeno from Alien3 was able to survive in molten lead. The closest thing that comes to that was Heisei Godzilla surviving in magma and lava, but this is Godzilla 1954. What did it do that was comparable to taking a hot lead bath and still running? Oh wait! What if Godzilla 54's ray super heated the bugs and then they got wet? Wouldn't that make them explode like the one did in Alien3?
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:15 pm

CatfaceFourtoes wrote:Wouldn't that make them explode like the one did in Alien3?


Maybe if the water in Tokyo Bay was at arctic temperatures.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:21 pm

A tail swipe from Goji would knock just about anything for a loop. Besides, as that dreadful puppet showed us Goji was capable of quick motions with his head/upper body. And God help xeno he lands on lol. Real world physics? Let me introduce you to kaiju physics. Remember when Ripley ran over that one warrior with the vehicle in Aliens? It'll be like that.

BTW, the xenos won't need arctic temp water to be killed by Goji's death ray. The ray will roast them alive.
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Re: Alien vs Dinosaur

Postby CatfaceFourtoes » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:23 pm

Nah, it just took water in the foundry to make the Xenomorph squeal and explode, about as sure a kill as the Oxygen Destroyer was to Godzilla '54. A good point was brought up about a Predator being wounded by conventional human weapons, while Godzilla 54 showed no signs of damage from myriad types of munitions. And if DAM is any indication, the supposedly more advanced weaponry could not stop monsters like Gorosaurus from rampaging.
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