Rodan and kumonga vs King Ghidorah

[miguelnuva]

http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/kumonga_showa.htm

and

http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/rodan_showa.htm

vs

http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/king_g ... _showa.htm

area: Mt fuji

Rules:
standard

Verdict: Godzilla's two equals from the showa series take on King Ghidorah. I feel the showa duo can take on King Ghidorah sue to Rodan being able to withstand the gravity bolts and Kumonga's durability being close to Rodan's as it took tow atomic rays just to knock him out. I see Rodan giving the distraction long enough for Kumonga to web Ghidorah up and win the battle.

[PopInPicsPresents]

I agree on the outcome. Kumunga's stingers may also come into play here. It'd be a fun battle to watch, shame Kumunga didn't play a bigger part in the DAM battle.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

King Ghidorah takes this. It didn't take many atomic rays to bring down Kumonga, so enough Gravity Bolts will do the same thing. Also, Rodan can't really do much of anything to King Ghidorah without Godzilla's help.

I also laugh at your strategy of Rodan distracting and Kumonga using his webs until Ghidorah is killed or retreats. The only reason that worked in the movie was because Godzilla held Ghidorah back, while Rodan protected Mothra from getting hit. Mothra was in a place where Ghidorah couldn't get him. Kumonga is not going to hide behind anything. He'll be in a place where he could easily get hit by Ghidorah's Gravity Bolts. Rodan has nothing to hold Ghidorah back. And it's not like Ghidorah will ignore the webs the Kumonga is firing on him. Rodan's distraction will only work for a little while. Once the webs start to become noticeable, Ghidorah is going to forget about Rodan and go after Kumonga.

[PopInPicsPresents]

King Ghidorah takes this. It didn't take many atomic rays to bring down Kumonga, so enough Gravity Bolts

Kumunga shrugged off a few Atomic Rays, it took 2 simultaneous rays to put it down, that's quite the feat And the Gravity Beams aren't at all strong, they just hurt. It'll take A LOT of constant Gravity Beams to put down the spider. And once Ghidorah takes enough of a beating he'll retreat.

[miguelnuva]

King Ghidorah takes this. It didn't take many atomic rays to bring down Kumonga, so enough Gravity Bolts will do the same thing. Also, Rodan can't really do much of anything to King Ghidorah without Godzilla's help.

I also laugh at your strategy of Rodan distracting and Kumonga using his webs until Ghidorah is killed or retreats. The only reason that worked in the movie was because Godzilla held Ghidorah back, while Rodan protected Mothra from getting hit. Mothra was in a place where Ghidorah couldn't get him. Kumonga is not going to hide behind anything. He'll be in a place where he could easily get hit by Ghidorah's Gravity Bolts. Rodan has nothing to hold Ghidorah back. And it's not like Ghidorah will ignore the webs the Kumonga is firing on him. Rodan's distraction will only work for a little while. Once the webs start to become noticeable, Ghidorah is going to forget about Rodan and go after Kumonga.

Kumonga is also a lot more durable then Mothra and if King Ghidorah turns to aim at Kumonga Rodan is going to grab him from behind and mess his already terrible aim up even more.

[Gyaos]

Where do you get the idea that Kumonga is more durable than Mothra?

[miguelnuva]

Where do you get the idea that Kumonga is more durable than Mothra?

He took on several Godzilla atomic rays and to two rays just immobilize him.

I doubt Mothra Larva could stand up to that.

[PopInPicsPresents]

Where do you get the idea that Kumonga is more durable than Mothra?

You're really gonna argue a Mothra larva is more durable then Kumunga?

[Kaiju-King42]

Where do you get the idea that Kumonga is more durable than Mothra?

You're really gonna argue a Mothra larva is more durable then Kumunga?

Well, if you think about it, it makes sense that the slow, grounded caterpillar would be more durable than the flying, rather delicate moth. Just saying. Kinda like Battra.

[PopInPicsPresents]

Where do you get the idea that Kumonga is more durable than Mothra?

You're really gonna argue a Mothra larva is more durable then Kumunga?

Well, if you think about it, it makes sense that the slow, grounded caterpillar would be more durable than the flying, rather delicate moth. Just saying. Kinda like Battra.

Atomic Rays and Gravity Beams don't send the adult Mothra flying.

[Kaiju-King42]

You're really gonna argue a Mothra larva is more durable then Kumunga?

Well, if you think about it, it makes sense that the slow, grounded caterpillar would be more durable than the flying, rather delicate moth. Just saying. Kinda like Battra.

Atomic Rays and Gravity Beams don't send the adult Mothra flying.

Well yeah, that's because the adult Mothra was never hit by gravity bolts. And the larva took the atomic rays just fine.

... Of course, the Mothra adult was at the dying point already, so that could also be a reason that she was defeated by those atomic rays so easily. Who knows, a healthy adult could have handled it just as good as the larva for all we know.

[miguelnuva]

When did the Mothra Larva take an atomic ray?

Godzilla Atomic Ray> One Gravity Bolt.

[Kaiju-King42]

When did the Mothra Larva take an atomic ray?

Godzilla Atomic Ray> One Gravity Bolt.

Multipul times during the climax of Mothra vs Godzilla. Of course, the larvas were partially protected by rocks, but a couple blasts did indeed hit them. As for gravity bolt power, just remember that it wasn't Godzilla's ray that tore up Tokyo in a minute. King Ghidorah and his gravity bolts did in a minute what would take Godzilla and Rodan at least 5 minutes.

[miguelnuva]

When did the Mothra Larva take an atomic ray?

Godzilla Atomic Ray> One Gravity Bolt.

Multipul times during the climax of Mothra vs Godzilla. Of course, the larvas were partially protected by rocks, but a couple blasts did indeed hit them. As for gravity bolt power, just remember that it wasn't Godzilla's ray that tore up Tokyo in a minute. King Ghidorah and his gravity bolts did in a minute what would take Godzilla and Rodan at least 5 minutes.

Yeah three maybe even two of Ghidorah's bolts are stronger but one gravity bolt doesn't seem stronger than Godzilla's ray.

[Kaiju-King42]

When did the Mothra Larva take an atomic ray?

Godzilla Atomic Ray> One Gravity Bolt.

Multipul times during the climax of Mothra vs Godzilla. Of course, the larvas were partially protected by rocks, but a couple blasts did indeed hit them. As for gravity bolt power, just remember that it wasn't Godzilla's ray that tore up Tokyo in a minute. King Ghidorah and his gravity bolts did in a minute what would take Godzilla and Rodan at least 5 minutes.

Yeah three maybe even two of Ghidorah's bolts are stronger but one gravity bolt doesn't seem stronger than Godzilla's ray.

That's because they don't make big explosions. However, I did notice during Ghidorah's attack on Tokyo in GTTHM, that many times when he hit a building with his beams, the building would explode outward... without a visible fireball like when most beams explode things. Some buildings would only explode partially outward, before collapsing in on themselves.

A theory of mine (mind you, this is just a theory), is that Ghidorah's gravity beams utilize gravity as a weapon so that it pushes outwards. I believe that it kind of works like a reverse black hole, one that pushes outwards instead of pulling objects in, hence why the beams seemed to make the buildings it struck "explode" without any fireballs accompanying it. It could also be the reason why Ghidorah's beams do not look all that impressive when fired at the ground, because all it would really be doing is push the earth it strikes outwards. The reason why a lot of dust seems to spray out of the ground when the beam strikes. On kaiju armor, the beam's effect is less dramatic, but it's still enough to make even Godzilla back off. And seeing as it's raw gravitational force pushing his hide apart at the points that the beam strikes, it's not hard to see why he backed off.

So, just because a beam doesn't produce a whole lot of explosions, doesn't mean they're weak.

[Kiryu2012]

^That's actually a pretty good theory. That would indeed explain how the buildings explode without a fireball. Anyways, I'm siding with the duo. Rodan was able to shrug off Ghidorah's Gravity Bolts even while flying and could knock him out of the sky. Kumonga is pretty damn durable himself, taking several Atomic Rays, including two fired simultaneously, before going down. They should be able to eventually bring down KG.

[Living Corpse]

Guys don't forget that Kumonga doesn't just sit there and spam his web and poison barb, he has tackled Godzilla several times. He's no stranger to up close melee and will jump on Ghidorah.

[Kiryu2012]

Very good point. And Ghidorah won't like being tackled by Kumi, especially if he has a stinger ready...

[GotengoXGodzilla]

King Ghidorah takes this. It didn't take many atomic rays to bring down Kumonga, so enough Gravity Bolts

Kumunga shrugged off a few Atomic Rays, it took 2 simultaneous rays to put it down, that's quite the feat And the Gravity Beams aren't at all strong, they just hurt. It'll take A LOT of constant Gravity Beams to put down the spider. And once Ghidorah takes enough of a beating he'll retreat.

After about four atomic rays or so, Kumonga started to slow down. Considering how much King Ghidorah spams the Gravity Bolts, it won't take long to reach an equivalent of four atomic rays.

Also, how the hell is Ghidorah going to take a "beating" in this fight? The worst that could happen to him is he gets rammed by Rodan a few times, and he gets webbing on his face...Oh the horror!

Seriously, Kumonga and Rodan pose no threat at all to King Ghidorah.

[miguelnuva]

King Ghidorah takes this. It didn't take many atomic rays to bring down Kumonga, so enough Gravity Bolts

Kumunga shrugged off a few Atomic Rays, it took 2 simultaneous rays to put it down, that's quite the feat And the Gravity Beams aren't at all strong, they just hurt. It'll take A LOT of constant Gravity Beams to put down the spider. And once Ghidorah takes enough of a beating he'll retreat.

After about four atomic rays or so, Kumonga started to slow down. Considering how much King Ghidorah spams the Gravity Bolts, it won't take long to reach an equivalent of four atomic rays.

Also, how the hell is Ghidorah going to take a "beating" in this fight? The worst that could happen to him is he gets rammed by Rodan a few times, and he gets webbing on his face...Oh the horror!

Seriously, Kumonga and Rodan pose no threat at all to King Ghidorah.

Can Ghidorah hit Kumonga he usually needs time to set up a shot against a small opponent. Also that ram from Rodan and web in his face might be enough to make Ghidorah leave.