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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Tyler » Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:52 pm

Oh I understand, but I don't care.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:52 pm

Svitska Donkun wrote:While original monsters would be cool, I don't think you guys understand that this could be our only chance ever to get a perfect Godzilla game.


Have to disagree. There will always be a chance especially if the LPG film makes the general public interested in the series again. Interested general public means it'd be easy to cash in with a new game.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Svitska Donkun » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:22 pm

But it would be a cheap cash-in, movie tie-in, game. Not a Godzilla game made for fans. Just throwaway crap with no effort put into it, based off a movie which is unproven, and not even out of development hell. This could be our last chance to get a real Godzilla game, and mend the damage wrought by G:U.

Oh I understand, but I don't care.


You don;t feel a little bit bad saying that? Not only are you being quick to shrug off new Godzilla content to spur fun and discussion in the fandom for the next few years, but you also neglect that a great Godzilla game could lasso in new fans to a shrinking fandom. Incomprehensible. I would think for any major Godzilla fan, the idea of a new Godzilla video game that would rely on fan input possibly much more than Unleashed, would be a friggin' GODSEND.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby miguelnuva » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:33 pm

If it's original kaiju how will they be selected?
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby SteveRGR » Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:31 am

I would love to see something similar to War of the Monsters for PS2, but with licensed monsters. Maybe have better control and camera movement. But that game is close to being the perfect kaiju game in my opinion. I love how fast paced it is. I love how complex and interactive EVERYTHING is. If there is another Godzilla game coming out, I would want it to stray away from the style it's been doing and go with more of a War of the Monsters style. I don't find the old games very fun. They're ungodly slow and hardly interactive. The only good thing I find about them is that I can play as recognizable characters. But with that said, here's my answers to the questions:
Q1: Option 1 (But option 3 is just as good)
Q2: Option 1
Q3: Option 1
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:07 am

Question 1:

Option 1, especially because for the reasons that Svitska Donkun stated. A new Godzilla game, especially one made for the fans, would be absolutely awesome in my opinion. Although I wouldn't mind if a Gamera game was created instead.

Question 2:

Option 1.

Question 3:

Option 1.

And may I make a suggestion that if this is to be a Godzilla or Gamera game, please do not make any unplayable monsters! That was one of the things I liked about GU, I could play as any monster in the game.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Svitska Donkun » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:57 am

Kaiju-King42 wrote:
And may I make a suggestion that if this is to be a Godzilla or Gamera game, please do not make any unplayable monsters! That was one of the things I liked about GU, I could play as any monster in the game.


My issue with this is that some monsters, like Biollante, Desighidorah or Legion, are not fit for a balanced fighting experience. Playing as Biollante in G:U was horrible, and glitchy, most likely due to her size and immobility. I think they'd be best suited for a boss encounter, ala Galactus in Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3. Then, if you need to play them still, add a Survival Mode-esque mode where you play as one and have to defeat as many monsters as you can in succession.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Living Corpse » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:04 am

I never had problems with Biollante, I had a blast ending fights quickly with her bite.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby ゴジラ » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:47 am

Alright then, let's see here.

Question 1: Which set of monsters?

Option #1 - A full-scale licensed Godzilla game.
Option #2 - Just like #1, but with Gamera, instead of Godzilla.
Option #3 - Just like #1, but with All-original Kaiju. (No licensing of monsters = $ saved!)


Question 2: What technology?

Option #1 - Online fighting with fully 3D monsters.
Option #2 - Asynchronous fighting (we each take turns, but not necessarily in real-time unless we're both online) with 3D monsters.
Option #3 - Just like #2, but with sweet 2D art.
Option #4 - 2D card-based brawler.


Question 3: What platform?

Option #1 - Consoles.
Option #2 - PC / Mac / Linux.
Option #3 - Something browser-based.
Option #4 - Mobile phones (iOS and Android)


Question 1: Option 1# (But if not possible then Option 3!)
Question 2: Option 1# (A real time fighter would be best)
Question 3: Option 1# (Consoles! PS3 and 360!)

A new Godzilla fighter with input from fans would be amazing, even more so, we could look at the previous games and see their mistakes so that we could better improve said game. I'm willing to do whatever I can if it means our community obtaining another kaiju fighting game.

Also! May I kindly suggest that if a Godzilla Game were to be made, let's not have the story of the game to revolve around an Alien Invasion again. Instead, let the Red Bamboo (Or an inspired organization similar to them) be the cause/villains of the story.

Gorosaurus Rex wrote:At the same time though, even if we do shell out money, who would work on it? Where would we get the talent?


Answer: Banpresto


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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby SpanishBulldog63 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:10 pm

Question 1:Option1

Use the roster from G:U (minus Krystalak and Obsidius) and bring in

Hedorah
Monster X
Gorosaurus
Manda(if a dog in MVC3 and a Polar bear in the Mortal Kombat MUGEN have their own Move-sets,i'm sure a Dragon one can be done.)
Battra(with his own moves)
Gabara(i see him working in a fighting game)
Kamacuras and Kumonga(not many insect kaiju in the games.also see Manda's reason above)
and call me crazy,but I wouldn't mind playing as Zilla

Question 2:option 1
Svitska Donkun wrote:Godzilla DAM and STE were the big winners. Make the game exactly like those, but with updated visuals. It was the perfect system for Kaiju fighting. G:Us was awkward, floaty, overly simple, and just all around odd and poorly optimized with little thought put into characters movesets. You should basically just import the movesets of all the monsters you can from STE to the new game. Not being able to roll, and the horrible jumping in G:U made fighting a terrible chore.

Basically this

Question 3:option 1

More Stuff:
-Bring back Rage
-An arena builder would be sweet
-Arenas based on movie locations(Mt.Fuji in DAM,The Glaciers from GRA,etc),as well as cities and The Boxing Ring.also make them STE-like for easier navigation and fighting
-Online depth as Svitska Donkun said
-Night/Day option for arenas
-Achievements/trophies that reference the movies
-improved graphics for scenery,vehicles,and buildings for more realistic looks and destruction
-The assist power-ups like SD mentioned,just different(Super X,Meganula swarm,Garuda,Aggregate Destoroyahs)
-A good story with great cut-scenes
-Costumes for monsters with different versions

Living Corpse wrote:I never had problems with Biollante, I had a blast ending fights quickly with her bite.

same here.i also liked how you could do quick combos with punch(or kick) attacks + her fierce attacks
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Svitska Donkun » Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:34 pm

ゴジラ wrote:Answer: Banpresto



I don't think we need anther developer. Pipeworks had the engine perfect in STE. Just bring that back, but with more. Like battle replays, more assist monsters, more fighters, and more online modes that can be customized.

same here.i also liked how you could do quick combos with punch(or kick) attacks + her fierce attacks


I'm not arguing her strength, she was very strong. She just was poorly optimized, clunky to use, and glitchy. Biollante is not a brawler.

Oh, and btw, BRING BACK BEAM WARS! Such a fun, and unexpected aspect to combat.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Blackout286 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:41 pm

Ha! Gojira you skreeonking mad-man your a genius! I'd say let Banpretso develop it! But with Simon and Matt on the team as well.

But at the topic at hand:

Question 1: Option 1# (But Option 3 is also good! Just make sure that you have an inspired Godzilla character playable lol)
Question 2: Option 1# (A real time 3D fighter, with some cinematic finishers)
Question 3: Option 1# (Consoles, PS3 and 360, more sales for ya.)

I find that a new Godzilla would be great, keep the combat freedom of DAMM/STE/GU, but make the fighting more deep like Ultraman FE3/Rebirth. I too am willing to do whatever it takes to make a new Godzilla fighter, or a original kaiju fighter into reality.

Hopefully the presentation of the game (If it were given a green-light) will be better.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Godzillabrawler » Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:50 pm

Blackout286 wrote:Image


Is... is that a 3D model of Godzilla 2000? Mother of God... that's what we need G2K to look like in the next fighter!

Seriously, does this look as spiky and badass as this?
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Red-Death Gigan » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:00 pm

Team based ala Marvel vs Capcom 3! Pic 2 - 3 monsters, swap in and out. Make it FUN! ; )
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby ゴジラ » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:10 pm

Godzillabrawler wrote:
Blackout286 wrote:Image


Is... is that a 3D model of Godzilla 2000? Mother of God... that's what we need G2K to look like in the next fighter!

Seriously, does this look as spiky and badass as this?


It's from the second Godzilla pachinko game. (Impressive Graphics)

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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:16 pm

Svitska Donkun wrote:
ゴジラ wrote:Answer: Banpresto



I don't think we need anther developer. Pipeworks had the engine perfect in STE. Just bring that back, but with more. Like battle replays, more assist monsters, more fighters, and more online modes that can be customized.

same here.i also liked how you could do quick combos with punch(or kick) attacks + her fierce attacks


I'm not arguing her strength, she was very strong. She just was poorly optimized, clunky to use, and glitchy. Biollante is not a brawler.

Oh, and btw, BRING BACK BEAM WARS! Such a fun, and unexpected aspect to combat.


Main issue is that Simon Strange no longer works with Pipeworks and they no longer have a Godzilla license. Things would be much easier if we sought out a new developer.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby tymon » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:27 pm

Svitska Donkun wrote: Pipeworks had the engine perfect in STE.


I disagree, I think the monsters need to feel more like guys in rubber suits and not have such exaggerated movements. I do love the STE engine, though.
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby JVM » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:39 pm

1, 2, 2.

Wouldn't it be cheaper for a fan game to be developed on the computer than consoles anyway?
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:39 pm

SpanishBulldog63 wrote:-The assist power-ups like SD mentioned,just different(Super X,Meganula swarm,Garuda,Aggregate Destoroyahs)


Actually, now that I think about it, the giant condor would be perfect for this!
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Re: (Possible) new kaiju game from Matt Frank and Simon Stra

Postby SpanishBulldog63 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:52 pm

Kaiju-King42 wrote:
SpanishBulldog63 wrote:-The assist power-ups like SD mentioned,just different(Super X,Meganula swarm,Garuda,Aggregate Destoroyahs)


Actually, now that I think about it, the giant condor would be perfect for this!


haha it would,and i think for levels that are by the ocean,an Ebirah sea-strike might work as well
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