SH Monsterarts!

[zilla103192]

Opinions on GFW suits? alright, I'll play.

Godzilla: Alot of people don't care for this suit, but I kinda dig it. I like the proportions and the overall detail. People complain about how he has a rat face? Well, Heisei Godzilla had a cat face, and that worked.

Mothra: I think that this (tied with SOS) is my favorite incarnation of Mothra. It takes the basic look, and throws in realistic insect attributes. I like the long brown fur on her wings, it screams moth to me.

Rodan: My least favorite version of the character. Looks WAY too much like a guy in a suit. On top of that, the neck is too thick, the fingers are to fat, and the Legs are too long.

Anguirus: Out of the 3 Anguirus designs, I would put this one in the middle. I like it alot more then the original 55 version, but nothing can really top the personality of the 60s suit. But if they made the fangs and nose horn a bit bigger, that might of helped a bit.

King Caesar: I was never a huge fan of this guy, but I like this version alot more then the original, but I feel like they should of given it the solid colored eyes that the original suit had. Makes the monster look more intimidating.

Ebirah: Very nice, looks great. I nice improvement for the monster. Takes everything that was good about the showa version, and multiplies it.

Minilla: Too smooth looking. I liked the concept art much more. And what's up with the padded hands?

Zilla: while not a suit, I still feel like putting my input in on the design. And I hate it. It just looks so, unfinished. The Tristar model looked so much cooler.

Kamacuras: I like it, but the showa version is alot better. This one really is just a big Praying Mantis. While the showa one had alot more going for it in terms of design.

Kumonga: I agree with whoever said the showa version is creepier. This one just isn't hairy enough. That mouth full of fur really gave me the creeps when I was younger.

Manda: Looks GREAT! I think this is one of the best redesigns in the film. They just got it right. Can't REALLY say the same for execution. since most of the time, manda was CGI.

Hedorah: I LIKE it... but I don't like the weird round head. The showa version had more of a square shaped head. I like the fume tubes all over his body.

Gigan: This design looks great. I love the new mechanical look, I love the new color design, black and red works for Gigan. I don't really care for the 2.0 version with chainsaws though. That just seemed like the filmakers were trying to make Gigan more EXTREME. which wasn't needed.

Monster X: Eh, it looks alright. that's about all I'll say.

Keizer Ghidorah: I. skreeonk. HATE. THIS. DESIGN. It looks like they took an unfinished suit, and wrapped it in black and gold duck tape. I can't stress enough how much I hate this design. It's just bad.

[Tyler]

Hey I'll jump in too!

I think Godzilla and Minilla are fine. Rodan is too humanoid. Mothra doesn't look as pretty as she did a year before. Anguirus is okay but I think the '68 suit really nailed the character down. Ebirah is too rubbery. The original had such an organic look to it. I think Gigan is cool. I like King Caesar's humanoid look but his eyes are all wrong. Hedorah has a nice asymetrical design but he doesn't look slimy or anything. Kamacuras and Kumonga are hollows props compared to the creepy originals. Manda was pretty good. I think he actually looked better in CG (same with Kamacuras to an extent). I like the idea of Monster X/Keizer Ghidorah but they kinda dropped the ball with his second form. And Zilla looks exactly what he is - a toy scanned into a computer.

[Rody]

Alright, my turn:

Final-Goji
This is a pretty good suit; it takes the Heisei design, slims it down, proportions it properly, and is wonderfully flexible. It has its downsides though; the head looks a little too small & narrow, and the spines are just plain bad.

Manda
Easily the best looking monster in the film; this design puts more emphasis on the Chinese dragon-esque qualities and looks simply beautiful. It's one of the few kaiju that I would definitely consider to surpass all previous incarnations.

Gigan
The beloved cyborg kaiju gets a neat update in this film - but it really only works for this specific film. I still prefer the original '72 suit.

Rodan
This is my second favorite version of my favorite monster, due to the fact that it resembles the original '56 suit the closest. I have a fair share of nitpicks about it, though.

Anguirus
This is a decent update of the kaiju, but the head really needs improvement. It's probably my least favorite version.

Zilla
Not too impressive; but whatever. I don't really care about this kaiju.

King Caesar
This design looks 'off' to me; the buggy eyes and the tight looking torso kill the design.

Kumonga
Pretty much the same as the original, so pretty good. However, it does lose a couple points for not looking as creepy as the original.

Kamacuras
I used to love this design, but now it looks too generic to me. I definitely prefer the original.

Ebirah
I do like this one; I think it improves on the original somewhat.

Hedorah
I'm iffy about this one. It looks decently ugly and sludgy, but I think its actually over-detailed. On top of that, the tail looks to solid & organic, and the suit overall is way too skinny.

Mothra
This is the same prop used in Tokyo SOS - which PERFECTED her. Enough said.

Monster X/Keizer Ghidorah
I used to be really fond of this guy; now I'm indifferent. X looks decent, but would fit better in an Ultra show. Keizer G looks rather ugly.

Minilla
I give this suit credit for eliminating Minilla's ugly factor; but unfortunately now he looks cartoony. Oh well.

[Jomei]

Hey guys. This is not the skreeonk "FW suit opinion" thread, so cut it out.

MonsterArts has not announced any Millennium figures let alone any from Final Wars.

[RedZillaKing]

It's all relevant to the discussion. The overarching question being whether or not the FW designs are good for the MA line. But whatevs. Dropped.

[Jomei]

It's all relevant to the discussion. The overarching question being whether or not the FW designs are good for the MA line. But whatevs. Dropped.

It's tangential at best. There's no indication that any Final Wars figures will be made, so who cares if the designs are good or not? That's a matter for another thread.

[ZillaMaster91]

I just received my Revoltech Anguirus yesterday, and now I am jonesing for Bandai Tamashii to do some Showa kaiju after they finish their Heisei line!

[Jomei]

I'm just waiting for them to release more info about the Ghidorah, which is the only figure in the line that interests me so far.

[RedZillaKing]

It's tangential at best. There's no indication that any Final Wars figures will be made, so who cares if the designs are good or not? That's a matter for another thread.

The last few pages indicate that plenty of people care. I'm not interested in an argument but I have to ask: What is the harm in fan speculation/discussion about the direction of the line?

[Jomei]

It's tangential at best. There's no indication that any Final Wars figures will be made, so who cares if the designs are good or not? That's a matter for another thread.

The last few pages indicate that plenty of people care. I'm not interested in an argument but I have to ask: What is the harm in fan speculation/discussion about the direction of the line?

There's no harm in that, but personal opinion on the suits has nothing to do with what you're talking about there. Good suits in your opinion or not, Bandai didn't even see fit to make standard vinyls of many of the FW kaiju, so it seems unlikely they will produce expensive collector figures of monsters that appeared on screen for 30 seconds--in probably the most hated film of the series--before getting their shit pushed in. Doesn't matter if the suits were "good" or not, and it's just spammy to start listing your opinion of every suit in the film just because there's a SLIM possibility that some of them could become figures in this line.

Now, discussing the viability of these designs as articulated figures might be worthwhile. But people are giving their opinions on the Manda suit, for Christ's sake. Do you really see a fully articulated MonsterArts Final Wars MANDA figure being released? And Final Wars Hedorah? Really?

[Godzilla 2000]

It's tangential at best. There's no indication that any Final Wars figures will be made, so who cares if the designs are good or not? That's a matter for another thread.

The last few pages indicate that plenty of people care. I'm not interested in an argument but I have to ask: What is the harm in fan speculation/discussion about the direction of the line?

Wrong thread dude.


And dont blame me, ya'll jumped on the bandwagon afterwards.

[RedZillaKing]

^^Hilariously, FW Manda is the one I want the most.

[Jomei]

^^Hilariously, FW Manda is the one I want the most.

It is hilarious because it's not going to happen. I might actually buy it if it did, though. LOL

It's so far-fetched, but... if they put one out with the Gotengo, I'd buy it. I just can't see them dipping into Final Wars when they have so many more popular films they could draw from.

[Legion1979]

Do you really see a fully articulated MonsterArts Final Wars MANDA figure being released? And Final Wars Hedorah? Really?

I'll answer all three questions...

NO


Careful with those strong opinions, Jomei. Or else people will start personally attacking you as if you've just bitch-slapped their grandmas. Happens to me all the time 'round here.

Oh and the die-cast FW Gotengo was such a pathetic seller I don't think Bandai is ever going to revisit that ship as a full-sized toy.

[RedZillaKing]

Legion, quit playing the victim. It's really getting old. Your opinions are hardly what gets people angry and you know it. Hence why Uncanny and others like him arent likewise "attacked".

[Jomei]

Let's not make this personal, guys.

Anyway, I just made the Gotengo remark because, as a fully articulated figure, Manda would seem pretty lacking, I think, and would need substantial accessories to sweeten the deal. But you're probably right--Bandai probably wouldn't make the ill-advised gamble.

[Legion1979]

Let's not make this personal, guys.

Sorry, I feel like countering RKZ. Then I won't post on the subject again.

It seems like every time I post around here - especially in the toy subforum - no matter how in depth, on-point or well thought out my posts are there's always someone who shoots back with something personal like "Legion is just an elitist prick" or "Ignore Legion, he's a hater" or "Legion spent $17,000 on toys. He shouldn't judge." After a while that crap just gets old, especially when members who have absolutely nothing to do with the discussion come in the do it.

Either way...Bandai making a Manda of any sort? New or old? Don't make me laugh. This is BANDAI we're talking about. If they bailed out of putting the rest of the FW monsters in the vinyl line when the movie was BRAND NEW I don't for a second see them reconsidering for this far more expensive figure series. A wave of lesser GFW MonsterArts figures has the potential to absolutely cripple the line. As I said before I could see a Millennium Godzilla (any of them), Kiyru, maybe GMK Baragon and POSSIBLY the FW Gigan being made in this series at some point. But I think hell is going to freeze over before BANDAI gives Orga, Megagiras, Monster X, Kaiser Ghidora or the majority of the other FW monsters the time of day in this series.

[RedZillaKing]

Manda would be a fantastic addition to the MA line. Just look at Drag Redder from the Figuarts line. Also, the tails of the MA figures are the most impressive part... And Manda is all "tail". A Manda in scale with the MA Goji would be an impressive 18" long as well. I agree, though, an impressive accessory would be necessary.

^Legion... Again there are people who share your opinions who aren't likewise attacked. It must be everyone else, right? My mind keeps going back to another thread where you said something like "I can't believe Kitamura managed to manipulate people into liking the FW Gigan" or some such. You're just so negative and abrasive sometimes. You act like you're the only one who knows the answers and that everyone else is an idiot.

No, no you're right. People just respond to you negatively because they don't like your Dodongo avatar or something.

[Jomei]

Manda would be a fantastic addition to the MA line. Just look at Drag Redder from the Figuarts line. Also, the tails of the MA figures are the most impressive part... And Manda is all "tail". A Manda in scale with the MA Goji would be an impressive 18" long as well. I agree, though, an impressive accessory would be necessary.

Ok, so maybe it could be cool? But do you think it's at all likely? Legion makes very good points about Bandai's marketing strategy.

[RedZillaKing]

Hell no it's not. As I've often said, a man can dream though.