TK's Official Whine Thread

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Precisely- what you perceive yourself as change may not be change to others.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Precisely- what you perceive yourself as change may not be change to others.

...Except that I've never seen Wataru claim that he has changed. At all.

I am claiming that I've changed, because it's true. I look back on the things that I did when I joined and say, "Goddamn! I was really stupid back then! Glad I wouldn't do those kinds of things anymore." I don't know about you, but I would consider that change.

Now, if what you're saying is that it's not fair to judge myself, I get that. There are better people out there that can judge me better than I could. However, that doesn't stop me from saying things like "I've grown up and made a few changes to myself!" Especially when other people have told be that in other threads.

[RedZillaKing]

In GxG's defense the idiotic things I've heard people say he said doesn't match up with who he seems to be now. Doesn't he get to move on?

[Gawdziller]

In GxG's defense the idiotic things I've heard people say he said doesn't match up with who he seems to be now. Doesn't he get to move on?

No. We're all stuck in Toho Kingdom limbo, destined to whine and bitch forever until the internet rots over and pornography sweeps the Oscars.

[Legion1979]

In GxG's defense the idiotic things I've heard people say he said doesn't match up with who he seems to be now. Doesn't he get to move on?

I remember the instant GxG returned after the forum changeover in 2010 people immediately started to get on his case just because of how he USED to be, even though he had done nothing wrong when he re-joined.

[RedZillaKing]

And wasn't it years ago?

[TheSecondComing]

In GxG's defense the idiotic things I've heard people say he said doesn't match up with who he seems to be now. Doesn't he get to move on?

I remember the instant GxG returned after the forum changeover in 2010 people immediately started to get on his case just because of how he USED to be, even though he had done nothing wrong when he re-joined.

Years ago, TK mods were much tougher on people rejoining after being banned. Now it's just laughable.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

In GxG's defense the idiotic things I've heard people say he said doesn't match up with who he seems to be now. Doesn't he get to move on?

I remember the instant GxG returned after the forum changeover in 2010 people immediately started to get on his case just because of how he USED to be, even though he had done nothing wrong when he re-joined.

Years ago, TK mods were much tougher on people rejoining after being banned. Now it's just laughable.

If it were up to me, I'd have a few members banned based off who they were and their pasts. Miles wanted clean slates for everyone.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

In GxG's defense the idiotic things I've heard people say he said doesn't match up with who he seems to be now. Doesn't he get to move on?

I remember the instant GxG returned after the forum changeover in 2010 people immediately started to get on his case just because of how he USED to be, even though he had done nothing wrong when he re-joined.

Years ago, TK mods were much tougher on people rejoining after being banned. Now it's just laughable.

To be fair though, when I rejoined in 2010, it wasn't because I had been banned. It was because I took a break from TK (mostly because of school), and at the time, I no longer saw much of a reason to be on TK, because I didn't feel the need to reply to a single post I was reading, and had nothing new to say.

Also, when I came back in 2010, the mods weren't hard on me at all. It was members like Monster Master, wataru and Lamango, who I've had long standing histories with.

[TheSecondComing]

Years ago, TK mods were much tougher on people rejoining after being banned. Now it's just laughable.

If it were up to me, I'd have a few members banned based off who they were and their pasts. Miles wanted clean slates for everyone.

I'm with you on that. The jail doesn't let all the prisoners free when they need to rebuild the jail.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

To be fair though, when I rejoined in 2010, it wasn't because I had been banned. It was because I took a break from TK (mostly because of school), and at the time, I no longer saw much of a reason to be on TK, because I didn't feel the need to reply to a single post I was reading, and had nothing new to say.

Also, when I came back in 2010, the mods weren't hard on me at all. It was members like Monster Master, wataru and Lamango, who I've had long standing histories with.

I would not have banned you, Paul. You weren't banned when old TK was closed. Monster Master probably wouldn't have been banned because I don't think he was banned from old TK when it closed...I could be wrong. I also wouldn't have banned AH because I honestly don't understand why everyone hated him and reacted in such away.

Keep in mind that plenty of old banned members have showed improvement over their past behaviors.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Keep in mind that plenty of old banned members have showed improvement over their past behaviors.

Exactly. I completely agree with this statement.

I fully admit that when I was banned early 2005, I deserved to be banned. I was stupid, naive and very much went against the rules of the forum. I realized the mistakes that I had made, and I promised myself and everyone around me that I would never do anything like that again. Every time I mess up, I always try to learn from those mistakes, so that I can become a person that makes as little mistakes as possible, and be the person that I want to be. It took me a while to realize this, it wasn't something that came to me over night, but I like to think that I'm better now for thinking that I can improve myself and be a better person.

I never forget what I started out as, or the mistakes that I've made. If I did forget, I wouldn't have change, and I would have only gotten worse.

EDIT: Also, Monster Master was not banned when the new forums were created. I believe he had just recently been de-promoted from being a mod, but that was about it.

[Legionmaster]

de-promoted

Demoted. And MM wasn't ever permanently banned on the old boards.

There's a few people thusfar that I wouldn't have banned, but a wholeeeee lot more that I would have.

[wataru]

LOL oh the talk of Old TK and how mods were "tougher". It's like 80 year old men in a steam room at the Lodge talking about the days when the 'colored' folk werent allowed to use the same bathrooms as the whites.

Have I changed from Old TK? Yup, sure have. None of you know me off TK so you wouldnt know.

[GojiFan]

They aren't talking about how you changed in real life. They are talking about how you haven't changed here...

[wataru]

They aren't talking about how you changed in real life. They are talking about how you haven't changed here...

Well in some aspects here I am still the same. I dont approve of how some members are 'punished' more harshly then others and how some members are treated because theyre not 'popular'.

I dont want New TK to devolve into Old TK but it's moving more and more that way.

[HeiseiGodzilla117]

They aren't talking about how you changed in real life. They are talking about how you haven't changed here...

Well in some aspects here I am still the same. I dont approve of how some members are 'punished' more harshly then others and how some members are treated because theyre not 'popular'.

I dont want New TK to devolve into Old TK but it's moving more and more that way.

I'm not a "popular" member, and I think I'm treated as fairly as anyone else.

[tymon]

Well in some aspects here I am still the same. I dont approve of how some members are 'punished' more harshly then others and how some members are treated because theyre not 'popular'.

What's a "popular" member? Someone with a really high post count for somethin?

[Gawdziller]

Well in some aspects here I am still the same. I dont approve of how some members are 'punished' more harshly then others and how some members are treated because theyre not 'popular'.

What's a "popular" member? Someone with a really high post count for somethin?

I'm the bar. If you aren't at least THIS popular, you aren't popular at all.

I haven't changed. I'm still the lovable douchebag I've always been.

[Fairy Mothra]

I think Wataru's idea of a "popular" member is someone who obeys the rules for the most part, is pretty much nice to everyone, and consequently is liked by everyone. Naturally this type of person wouldn't be getting warnings anyway...

If you're talking about people who are generally well-liked but do break the rules occasionally (SG2010, Tyler, Legion, just off the top of my head) these people have been warned and/or temp banned in the past. They probably just broke the rules less than you. It has nothing to do with "popularity".