Sadora (Mebius) vs. Dorako (Ultra Galaxy)

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This seems like a nice match-up. The Sadora featured in Mebius were much stronger then its Ultra Galaxy counterparts. One of them was able to give Mebius a pretty tough fight. Dorako gave Eleking a tough battle until ZAPS interfered. Eleking destroyed Dorako in one blast of its Electric Ray, as Mebius also took used one blast to destroy Sadora. Mebius's beam is without a doubt stronger the Eleking's Electric Ray so I'm gonna have to say Sadora is more durable. I'm going to give the battle to Sadora. The fog and extendo-arms are going to give Dorako a helluva fight.

Sadora 6/10
Dorako 4/10

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Not sure where you got the idea that Eleking's ray was weaker than Mebius'. The Electric beam was the strongest weapon in Rei's arsenal save for the likes of EX Gomora's attacks. Mebius was constantly shown to be a weak Ultraman. The Electric Ray is easily stronger than the Mebium Ray.

[RedZillaKing]

How is Eleking's Electric Beam more powerful than the Oscillatory Ray? From what I've seen they are both strong finishers that destroy monsters. If I had to choose between the two I'd say Gomora's ray was stronger.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Case in point: Season 1, Episode 11- Eleking and Gomora vs Doragoris and Velokron. At the climax of the fight, Gomora and Eleking blasted Doragoris with the Oscillatory Ray and Electric Discs but didn't hurt him much. This forced Eleking to unleash his Electric Beam for the first time and destroy Doragoris in one shot.\

Case in point 2: Season 2, Episode 4- Reionyx Burst Gomora blasts Doragoris withhis Super Oscillatory Ray. Doragoris survives.

[RedZillaKing]

OBJECTION!

1. Gomora's Oscillatory Ray hit Doragoris in a very short burst. However it did hurt the super monster, and set up Eleking for the finisher. Finding his electric discs insufficient, he then went for a more powerful finisher type move (a long sustained Electric beam). This sequence only proves that the electric discs are weaker than the Electric beam. Doragoris was already hurt by the short Oscillatory burst. Keep in mind the fact that Eleking was getting his ass kicked before Gomora intervened, so Doragoris had likely not even taken significant damage.

2. Don't compare wild poke- ahem Ultra kaiju with a Reionyx controlled kaiju. It's really shaky considering the fact that the Reionyx him/herself dictates how powerful the kaiju is. Think about the wild Red King in comparison with Grande's Red King for the clearest example of this.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

1. Gomora's Oscillatory Ray hit Doragoris in a very short burst. However it did hurt the super monster, and set up Eleking for the finisher. Finding his electric discs insufficient, he then went for a more powerful finisher type move (a long sustained Electric beam). This sequence only proves that the electric discs are weaker than the Electric beam. Doragoris was already hurt by the short Oscillatory burst. Keep in mind the fact that Eleking was getting his ass kicked before Gomora intervened, so Doragoris had likely not even taken significant damage.

Still, Gomira's SOR only succeeded in killing weaker monsters- it required him to dramatically stick his horn into even the likes of Red King and Golza to destroy them- distance shots never hurt the stronger monsters much. Eleking's ray has killed an extremely tanky kaiju, in one shot, where Gomora and himself has repviously hurt to, as you said, deal him significant damage.

2. Don't compare wild poke- ahem Ultra kaiju with a Reionyx controlled kaiju. It's really shaky considering the fact that the Reionyx him/herself dictates how powerful the kaiju is. Think about the wild Red King in comparison with Grande's Red King for the clearest example of this.

Yes, but sicne we don't know whether the Reionyx made Doragoris stronger or not, its best to assume he's equally powerful. Don't forget Eleking and Litra weren't any stronger than they were pre-capture.

[RedZillaKing]

Doragoris was staggered and definitely injured by the short Oscillatory burst. Eleking merely finished him. I don't see how we can even tell whether or not EK and Littra were or were not stronger when under Rei's command.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Doragoris was injured by the burst, but it didn't hurt him bad. It doesn't take much for a beam to stagger an oppponent, unless you are Fire Giolza, or Destoroyah or something.

Eleking was clearly still weaker than Gomora- Grande even flat-out said that Gomora was strong and Eleking wasn't. So its pretty obvious that combat experience aside Eleking hadn't grown any stronger.

[RedZillaKing]

Eleking being weaker than Gomora proves nothing. I'm actually shocked that we're debating this. A Reionyx's bond with the kaiju strengthens the kaiju. Period. They gain enhanced abilities as well as new attacks and forms. And they're also a lot tougher.

Eleking may be weaker than Gomora, but Eleking was always weaker than Gomora. Why would the Reionyx bond make a kaiju that was weaker to start stronger than a kaiju who was stronger to start with?

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Eleking being weaker than Gomora proves nothing. I'm actually shocked that we're debating this. A Reionyx's bond with the kaiju strengthens the kaiju. Period. They gain enhanced abilities as well as new attacks and forms. And they're also a lot tougher.

Eleking may be weaker than Gomora, but Eleking was always weaker than Gomora. Why would the Reionyx bond make a kaiju that was weaker to start stronger than a kaiju who was stronger to start with?

But the disparity in power between the two never seemed to change from their very first battle. Either Gomora was simply growing stronger faster than Eleking. I do get your point, but my point about Eleking having the stronger rnaged attack still stands.

More of a side note, Red King IS weaker than Eleking but you can see how his Reionyx version turned out.

[edgaguirus]

Sadora wins. Dorako only has hooks, but Sadora has claws with extending ability. That will help keep Dorako's hooks at a distance. Sadora also can use him emp smoke screen to confuse Dorako.

[RedZillaKing]

I don't think EK is stronger than Red King. He has more abilities, sure, but Red is a stronger beast at his base. On a strange side note.... Grande's Tyrant was inferior to his Red King. It's possible that either a) certain kaiju bond more thoroughly with a Reionyx and have the potential for greater strength as a result or b) Grande had RK longer and he had more time to grow. Your thoughts?

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Red King is one of the weakest Ultra Galaxy monsters. Freakin' Neronga gave Gomora more trouble. Eleking was beaten up by Gomora on land but overall was portrayed as a huge challenge.

I think Grande;s Red King is so powerful as its his 'main' monster, and was probably much better trained than Tyrant, or has a stronger bond...I think each Reionyx has a key monster that is esceptionally powerful compared to the rest (Gomora for Rei, Zetton for Kate, Red King for Grande).

[RedZillaKing]

Red King is one of the weakest Ultra Galaxy monsters. Freakin' Neronga gave Gomora more trouble. Eleking was beaten up by Gomora on land but overall was portrayed as a huge challenge.

The fights can't be compared, really. Neronga and Eleking only proved a challenge through having powers/environments that put them at an advantage. Red King engaged Gomora in a straight up brawl. Neronga's invisibility doesn't make him more powerful. As a fighter, he is severely lacking. Eleking is stronger than Neronga for sure, but compared to Red King he doesn't really pack a punch.
Its obvious that Red is above the low/middle tier pack but a wild RK is not on Doragoris, Velokron, King Joe, or Tyrant's level.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Red King is a better close combat combatant, no question on that. But Eleking has a ton of special abilities and much better feats. And let's face it- at most, Eleking was marginally stronger when he was captured than before, if at all. Red King was shittons stronger.

[RedZillaKing]

Assuming the Red King was a normal member of it's species, yeah.

[ghidorasauras]

you two are going to argue until the end of time

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you two are going to argue until the end of time

That's kinda the point...

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

you two are going to argue until the end of time

If you consider a civil debate an argument, sure...

Geezus, we are in a message board, what's with people and discussion?

[RedZillaKing]

Yeah, that was odd. Anyways, I think Dorako would take this. Not because heks a strong kaiju, but because he's a decent fighter with good, sharp weapons and decent (for monsters,lol) strategy. Sadora, by contrast, is cannon fodder in all his modern incarnations.