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- Godzillaprime05
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Re: Nuke him
I thought he got it off because to use the AZC kiryu would have let go so his arms wouldn't be in the way which is when the ray would've been fired.
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Re: Nuke him
They nuked the 'Cloverfield' monster...................
'Hammer Down', anyone???
'Hammer Down', anyone???
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Re: Nuke him
I thought the end of Cloverfield was that they nuked him off camera? No?
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If they nuked something that close to the cameraGodzillaIsCool wrote:I thought the end of Cloverfield was that they nuked him off camera? No?
The Camera is vaporized and there is no movie
It was probably a MOAB
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Re: Nuke him
Oh ya. The camera would of been smoked. Touche my friend.
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Plus the gamma radiation would destroy the film if the sheer incindiary properties of the bomb dont.
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- Godzillaprime05
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Ford should change their slogan to "built Godzilla tough: survives black holes, absolute zero, enormous flaming rocks falling on directly on skull, and God knows whatelse"
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- omgitsgodzilla
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You mean the stickied one in the Heisei forum? Doesn't seem sloppy to me.Living Corpse wrote:Truth be told I'm still confused as to what happened. It's not as bad as the sloppy explanation of the time travel in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah but still...
- omgitsgodzilla
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Re: Nuke him
Well the writing, sure. But I was talking about the explanation.
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Re: Nuke him
He'd probably eat it!
The world would be so much nicer if people only used guns on themselves.
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Re: Nuke him
I think they should nuke him, without knowing it would make him bigger and stronger, then beat the crap out of his enemy EVEN MORE
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^ Wait, that sounds like his opponent is there as well. You think BOTH monsters could survive that?!
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Godzilla would rape the nuke....
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- TokyoVigilante
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I dunno if you're trying to be funny or if you legitimately think Godzilla could survive a nuke. Unfortunately, the raw heat, concussive force, and energy would absolutely obliterate Godzilla into nothingness. That goes without mentioning the political ramifications of such a weapon.Patrick Alan wrote:Godzilla would rape the nuke....
But regardless of that, if the film uses an atomic bomb and Godzilla survives, they will instantly destroy any dramatic tension. They've used the ultimate weapon that humanity, in a reasonably grounded and modern setting, is capable of developing. All it will result in is a scene for Fantasy Match obsessed fanboys to drool and squeal over and something that is nothing but shallow machismo posturing.
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Re: Nuke him
Surprised so many people think Godzilla could survive a nuke, hell I've only ever seen one "Survive a nuke scene" that was any good. And that was Superman's survival in Kingdom Come.
Honestly if they hit Godzilla with so much as tactical nuke, it'd probably spoil the movie for most viewers.
Let alone the strategic nukes they would probably use if they were to write this movie (More recognizable)
Honestly if they hit Godzilla with so much as tactical nuke, it'd probably spoil the movie for most viewers.
Let alone the strategic nukes they would probably use if they were to write this movie (More recognizable)
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Re: Nuke him
Okay, I gotta be honest here. How would Godzila surviving a nuke ruin the movie? I don't really understand.
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It's dumbKaiju-King42 wrote:Okay, I gotta be honest here. How would Godzila surviving a nuke ruin the movie? I don't really understand.
That's the problem with most of this Black Hole, Meteorite, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's dumb, and not the good kinda dumb the bad kind.
Godzilla surviving a nuke takes him from powerful, to "lolfuck physics" strong. It's just really, really dumb. The idea that a living creature could survive what essentially destroys things on the molecular level, it's crap. It's lazy writing, and fan-wanky "look how strong I am" crap for fantasy match nerds.
If you want to show Godzilla is strong have him take Air missiles out a F-22, the shells of an Abrams Tank, etc. Throw standard stuff at him, and work you're way up to larger more powerful Ballasitic non-nuclear missiles (Which I would like to see, ya know actually hurt him) or even a MOAB
It's lazy writing to throw the the strongest weapon out, and "uh lol, out of options rofl. He wins!" Especially ya know when a Tomahawk missile can carry the blast of nearly 10 Nagasakis, and a Sea Wolf class sub can carry up to 50.
And even then those are still just Kiloton warheads, MEGATON warheads are even more powerful. It'd just be lazy, bad writing.
I've only ever seen one good, surviving of nuke. That was Superman in Kingdom Come, and it only worked because he was left alone.
Nukes should kill him, plain and simple. Especially the Strategic Long Range missiles, everyone thinks of when they think nukes.
He was mutated from fallout, not from standing at Ground Zero.
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Re: Nuke him
Nobody has complained about the various monsters from '50s B-movies surviving nuclear strikes and various modern weapons. When the world's greatest weapon is proven useless against a threatening creature, it increases dramatic tension.TokyoVigilante wrote:But regardless of that, if the film uses an atomic bomb and Godzilla survives, they will instantly destroy any dramatic tension. They've used the ultimate weapon that humanity, in a reasonably grounded and modern setting, is capable of developing. All it will result in is a scene for Fantasy Match obsessed fanboys to drool and squeal over and something that is nothing but shallow machismo posturing.
Take The War of the Worlds for instance. The bomb is used as a last resort, and is shrugged by the martian war machines. This is a great way to start the film's third act, we truly believe humanity has lost the war, making the last minute salvation by germs more rewarding.
The Giant Claw, flawed as it is, makes a good use of the "monster vs. bomb" angle. The creature's invulnerabilty forces the characters to come up with a cleverly written plot device, they have to actually do things.
None of this matters as I woulnd't want Godzilla to be a villain, but seeing an older than dirt plot device as "childish, fanwaking" misses the point completely.
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They could fire the nuke, and it anhilates everything, buildings collapse and such, then after the smoke clears, Godzilla is no where to be seen, but they notice that the radiation is myteriously being absorbed by something, then Godzilla rises out of the rubble, he's all burned up, still ok, but very tired, after absorbing all the radiation from the nuke he slips back into the ocean to rest. You could leave it at that for a sequal, or after he slips back into the water, they hunt him down and finally do him in with the Oxygen Destroyer.
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- menschenjaeger
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Re: Nuke him
What are you talking about?!Ethan wrote:
The Giant Claw, flawed as it is...