How come Anguirus was not in the Heisi series?

[godzilla's#1latino]

The split back-plates are extremely reminiscent of publicity photos from GODZILLA RAIDS AGAIN.

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I memory seeing this image before I ever saw the film. I thought completely that Anguirus had the fractured plates with spikes in the movie before when first I saw the incursions of Godzilla Raids Again. I found out that towards the end he did not do it when I watched.

[ebirahsmeg1]

The first one looks like a giant bug, but the rest of them look okay. Does anybody else find Final Wars Anguirus to be "Heisi" like?

As was stated by Goji, the first one is not a design of Anguirus but an unused bug monster called "Barubaroi". Only the middle and right pictures are Anguirus redesigns. As for the question at hand, yes the GFW design does scream Heisei to me.

It appears as if there was indeed an actual "Godzilla vs BaruBaroi" film considered as an alternative to GvsDestroyer, and Angilas was considered for it and not GvsDestroyer. I bought the "Heisei Perfection" book a few weeks ago and there were several pictures of different designs for "Barubaroi." I posted pics of these on the Heisei Perfecton review thread:

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While he looks like a deformed dragonfly in this aforementioned photos, there were also several designs that made him resembled a cross between Hedorah and Biollante (wierd, huh?). I have been super busy lately (working 80 hours/week, plus I am preparing to move to Tokyo in 1 month), but as soon as things settled down, I'll try to read and translate this book a bit more...

[kaiju115]

Thats something I always wanted know, or what about Gigan how come he was never in the Heisei series?

[Goji]

One thing at a time dude. Did you even read his last post thoroughly?

[kaiju115]

Sorry, I'm just posting my thoughts over this topic.

[JVM]

When I was younger I liked to think they were going to do a film with Gigan as the villain and Anguirus the ally that never came to fruition. I don't know why that idea always stuck with me. Guess because it kinda flashes back to GvG, sans KG.

[Megaton17]

There ya go fellers.

The one on the far left is not actually an Anguirus design though. This is what somebody who's on "the inside" said on my Facebook about a year ago.

"The caption actually says that the two right sketches are from the proposed GODZILLA VS. GHOST GODZILLA. The sketch on the left is for an evolving creature called "Barubaroi", which has a split-back plate like Angilas (it doesn't identify which film this was designed for)."

Barubaroi kind of reminds me of the scrapped "Junior Saga" villain seen in Godzilla Trading Battle.

The middle design of Anguirus looks a bit off but I love the design to the right. Seeing how it was planned for the Heisei series, Anguirus would have probably been given a ranged weapon, much like how Rodan was given the Uranium Beam. Anguirus could shoot spikes from his back (especially after looking at the new shell structure).

[RedZillaKing]

I think it sucks that Goji's greatest ally wasn't resurrected for the "Heisei" series. Whether he was popular with the Japanese or not... ????????

[Rody]

Guys, look at Heisei Ghidorah, Rodan & Mothra. Would you REALLY want to see Anguirus get the Heisei treatment?

[Legion1979]

Guys, look at Heisei Ghidorah, Rodan & Mothra. Would you REALLY want to see Anguirus get the Heisei treatment?

HELL NO.

The same reason is why I question why people wanted a Heisei Gigan. You wanted a fat, almost immobile version of Gigan??

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

Guys, look at Heisei Ghidorah, Rodan & Mothra. Would you REALLY want to see Anguirus get the Heisei treatment?

Yes.

Design wise, Toho did a good job updating design. Execution, not so much. But Toho do some good modern updates with the Heisei series.

[RedZillaKing]

Guys, look at Heisei Ghidorah, Rodan & Mothra. Would you REALLY want to see Anguirus get the Heisei treatment?

Out of those only Mothra looked bad. So the answer is hell yes. Besides, I have a hard time imagining Kawakita screwing up a four legged monster. At the least we'd have a cool design update.

[TokyoVigilante]

Mothra is just a flat-out bad prop, but the Heisei King Ghidorah design is wonderful and aside from my personal nitpicks about Heisei Rodan, it's a well crafted prop regardless.

A Heisei Anguirus would have been a cool treat. It's kind of a shame that he's almost entirely an artifact of the Showa era and is only included in Final Wars as just a bit of fan service. While a Heisei Anguirus might have been lame, he atleast would have a modern incarnation with some depth and used with some importance to a story.

[Living Corpse]

Guys, look at Heisei Ghidorah, Rodan & Mothra. Would you REALLY want to see Anguirus get the Heisei treatment?

Not every Heisei monster was a lazy fatass though. Battra Larval jumped right on Godzilla for good ol T&C when he saw his beams were doing jack and King Ghidorah (both normal and Mecha) jumped him. And Rodan before he got his beam actually had a pretty decent Melee combat scene despite being an awkward prop.


Who knows, we might have gotten lucky and Anguirus could have been one of the better fight scenes. As the series is though, Junior is the closest thing Godzilla has to an Anguirus here.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

Guys, look at Heisei Ghidorah, Rodan & Mothra. Would you REALLY want to see Anguirus get the Heisei treatment?

Yes, obviously, since I love 2 of the 3 you mentioned. Mothra sucks but its not like each era doesn't have its own share of shitty designs/redesigns.

[Goji]

Well sure, but generally the Showa-era designs were the most well crafted, especially considering the limited materials that were available at the time. Rodan got a little derpy looking in the 60's, but the flying prop from MONSTER ZERO is still the best ever. It looked more like the '56 Rodan.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

Well sure, but generally the Showa-era designs were the most well crafted, especially considering the limited materials that were available at the time. Rodan got a little derpy looking in the 60's, but the flying prop from MONSTER ZERO is still the best ever. It looked more like the '56 Rodan.

I'd debate that.

They are well crafted for their time and materials...but I think the Heisei suits look better.

I SAID LOOK, NOT PERFORM.

Consider the Ultraman Powered suits. Those suits look nice. However, they were very stiff and didn't perform well.

Aesthetically, the Heisei suits win out. Mostly due to the high qualities materials used and the increased craftsmanship of the period.

[Goji]

Yeah, I can agree with that..to an extent.

King Ghidorah, Rodan, and the Mothra and Battra larve looked good (Three of which aren't even suits). The adult Mothra, however, looks like complete ass.

Godzilla looked good in '89-'91, and despite being a fat ass, still looked good throughout the Heisei series.

Mechagodzilla's suit looked good (though the design itself is as boring as can be), as did SpaceGodzilla and Destoroyah (despite being practically immobile).


Personally, I'll take a good design with fantastic execution over a ho-hum good design with absolute shit execution.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

Yeah, I can agree with that..to an extent.

King Ghidorah, Rodan, and the Mothra and Battra larve looked good (Three of which aren't even suits). The adult Mothra, however, looks like complete ass.

Godzilla looked good in '89-'91, and despite being a fat ass, still looked good throughout the Heisei series.

Mechagodzilla's suit looked good (though the design itself is as boring as can be), as did SpaceGodzilla and Destoroyah (despite being practically immobile).


Personally, I'll take a good design with fantastic execution over a ho-hum good design with absolute shit execution.

I personally find the execution of the Showa films to drop off around 67-69. It starts going from a convincing giant dinosaur fighting other giant animals to typical man-in-a-suit superherosaur.

[Goji]

Yep. The films were still more entertaining, and in the end that's what matters to me.