Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby godzilla898 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:56 pm

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RedZillaKing wrote:Lol, how amazing that was. The same beast couldn't handle 1200 degrees Celsius. So skreeonk inconsistent.

That's because it was his internal temperature rising how is that inconsistent?

Internal temp is more dangerous than external. Having a nasty flu of 105 can possible kill you in hours, but being in a room of the same temperature won't have the same effect.

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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby RedZillaKing » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:00 pm

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You constantly bitch and moan about people not listening to things you say in the FMs yet you're doing the same. There is a difference between being in a room that is 110 degrees and having your body temp. be 110 degrees. It doesn't matter how hot the mantle is, it matters what his internal body temp. is.

Lol yeah, when it's bullshit I tend to ignore it. Try to understand this: At 1200 degrees Celsius Godzilla's body disintegrated. At higher external temperatures, it should do the same. It's not like a person with a fever. I listened to that particular argument, I just wasn't satisfied with it.
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby miguelnuva » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:02 pm

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PopInPicsPresents wrote:
You constantly bitch and moan about people not listening to things you say in the FMs yet you're doing the same. There is a difference between being in a room that is 110 degrees and having your body temp. be 110 degrees. It doesn't matter how hot the mantle is, it matters what his internal body temp. is.

Lol yeah, when it's bullshit I tend to ignore it. Try to understand this: At 1200 degrees Celsius Godzilla's body disintegrated. At higher external temperatures, it should do the same. It's not like a person with a fever. I listened to that particular argument, I just wasn't satisfied with it.


SO your saying that 1200 Celsius degrees is Godzilla's limit because his internal body rose that high?
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:04 pm

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PopInPicsPresents wrote:
You constantly bitch and moan about people not listening to things you say in the FMs yet you're doing the same. There is a difference between being in a room that is 110 degrees and having your body temp. be 110 degrees. It doesn't matter how hot the mantle is, it matters what his internal body temp. is.

Lol yeah, when it's bullshit I tend to ignore it. Try to understand this: At 1200 degrees Celsius Godzilla's body disintegrated. At higher external temperatures, it should do the same. It's not like a person with a fever. I listened to that particular argument, I just wasn't satisfied with it.


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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby RedZillaKing » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:09 pm

I'm saying Goji's hide, flesh, and bones melted to nothing at 1200 degrees. How is it, then, that Goji could swim through much hotter temps without damage? The feat hardly seems legit.

PiPP- Good riddance... you barely do anything but parrot other peoples' points, anyway. Oh and other peoples' jokes too.
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby Godzilla 2000 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:11 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:I'm saying Goji's hide, flesh, and bones melted to nothing at 1200 degrees. How is it, then, that Goji could swim through much hotter temps without damage?


Because his heart wasnt melting down.

And I'm guessing his insides are squishier and weaker than his tough hide. :|
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby godzilla898 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:14 pm

I'm going to try and explain this with an analogy. Forgive me if it doesn't make sense.
Let's say you have you have a candle. We'll pretend that the candle is Godzilla. If you light the candle on fire, it burns. We'll say this is akin to Godzilla's meltdown. If you hold a flame to the candle, the candle will melt where you hold the flame.
Now let's say you wrap the candle in rubber. We'll say the rubber is akin to Godzilla's skin. Now the candle can stand higher temperatures without melting since it has an insulating coating around it.
I imagine it works something like that.
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby RedZillaKing » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:17 pm

The non bones insides would possibly be, sure, but everything melted. Bones, hide... You know, the stuff that withstood the temps before? His hide disintegrated too. If it could not stand the temps of 1200 C+, then everything would've melted in the mantle from his hide in. That's all I'm saying.
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby godzilla898 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:23 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:The non bones insides would possibly be, sure, but everything melted. Bones, hide... You know, the stuff that withstood the temps before? His hide disintegrated too. If it could not stand the temps of 1200 C+, then everything would've melted in the mantle from his hide in. That's all I'm saying.

Out of curiosity, where are you getting that the mantle is hotter than 1200 C?
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby RedZillaKing » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:32 pm

I've read several temps up to around 4000 degrees C. Normal sources: Books, Internet, etc. Are you asking for actual citation?
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby Godzilla 2000 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:32 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:The non bones insides would possibly be, sure, but everything melted. Bones, hide... You know, the stuff that withstood the temps before? His hide disintegrated too. If it could not stand the temps of 1200 C+, then everything would've melted in the mantle from his hide in. That's all I'm saying.


Hey, here's an idea: IT'S A MOVIE.

Who even cares at this point.
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby RedZillaKing » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:43 pm

But that's their main argument. Just pointing out that there are holes in it, is all.
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby Grayshot954 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:36 am

Okay how about this. Godzilla's insides were severely impaired due to the meltdown sequence. I mean a cold weakens your body, age weakens your body, heck even (On a total side note and I now its a mechanic in a game) critical mass in GU weakened their body to take more damage. So maybe Godzilla's normal temperature resistance is like 4000 C but in the meltdown state, his body was so weakened it lowered it to 1200 C. That fact that he can surive inside of molten rock is not in doubt.
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby GojiFan » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:55 am

A fever doesn't suddenly make you easier to be combusted/disintegrated....
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby miguelnuva » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:10 pm

GojiFan wrote:A fever doesn't suddenly make you easier to be combusted/disintegrated....


Actually it would, since humans burn easy you wouldn't notice the difference but the fact that your temperature is higher your tolerance for heat is lower.
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby GojiFan » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:23 pm

miguelnuva wrote:
GojiFan wrote:A fever doesn't suddenly make you easier to be combusted/disintegrated....


Actually it would, since humans burn easy you wouldn't notice the difference but the fact that your temperature is higher your tolerance for heat is lower.
Please don't try using science to back up your arguments. It does not work well for you.
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby RedZillaKing » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:47 pm

Is anyone else laughing their ass off right now? Ownnnnned.
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:19 pm

I'm not taking any sides here, cause in my opinion this would be a pretty even fight. However, I might just have an answer to the whole issue regarding how much heat Godzilla can take.

Godzilla wasn't hurt by the mantle temperatures, or the inside of a volcano. Beam weapons (certainly pretty hot stuff) don't do as much damage to his as the would to a normal creature. And yet... death by meltdown? Now, I believe that during the meltdown, Godzilla didn't melt because the inside of his body was hot. RZK does have a point there. Instead, I think that his body it's self was at 1200 degrees.

To put it this way, say you stick a frying pan on top of a red hot stove. It will get hot, sure, but not as hot as the stove's temperature, and it won't become damaged. However, if the frying pan it's self becomes super heated enough, it too would be red hot, and possibly melt.

What I'm trying to say is that Godzilla's very body, not internal or external, but his actual body, meaning skin, muscles, bones, organs, were at 1200 degrees. That could be what he melted from, NOT 1200 degrees inside his body.
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby GodzillaXGomoraFight » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:10 pm

You know what, I am no longer getting involved after this. In the end, honestly, I am still sticking with Burning Godzilla on this one. Would EX Gomora be able to survive the fight if Goji and AM agreed to get the Ultra-kaiju out of the way? With the help of the Japanese, Godzilla was able to defeat a kaiju that was his polar opposite. I doubt that EX Gomora ever fought such a potent enemy that is his exact opposite. AM is not defenseless in this match either. The stats say that he can fly at Mach 15.5, perhaps beyond any speed that Godzilla and Gomora could even be able to hit a monster travelling at such a speed. I also think that a good number of spiral rays might bring the moth down. EX Gomora might be the best at close combat, but can he beat two monsters that are virtually like tanks? I wouldn't make reference to the Beryudora fight in the Ultra-Galaxy movie since he had the assistance of several Ultramen, including Ultraman Zero.
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Re: Armor Mothra vs Burning Godzilla vs EX Gomora

Postby RedZillaKing » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:35 pm

1) My reference to the Beryudora fight was merely showing that he could take a very powerful beam.

2) KJB and Zetton are virtual tanks. Though not of Armor Mothra's caliber. And remember... Godzilla won't team up with Mothra.
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