Military Speculation (nationality, battles, masers, Super-X)

[omgitsgodzilla]

Truth be told I'm still confused as to what happened. It's not as bad as the sloppy explanation of the time travel in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah but still...

You mean the stickied one in the Heisei forum? Doesn't seem sloppy to me.

[Living Corpse]

Truth be told I'm still confused as to what happened. It's not as bad as the sloppy explanation of the time travel in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah but still...

You mean the stickied one in the Heisei forum? Doesn't seem sloppy to me.

The fact we even have that topic made to explain to kids what happened and how Biollante still happened is proof that the writing for the movie is sloppy.

[omgitsgodzilla]

Well the writing, sure. But I was talking about the explanation.

[Patrick Alan]

He'd probably eat it!

[Godzillais#1]

I think they should nuke him, without knowing it would make him bigger and stronger, then beat the crap out of his enemy EVEN MORE

[Rody]

^ Wait, that sounds like his opponent is there as well. You think BOTH monsters could survive that?!

[Patrick Alan]

Godzilla would rape the nuke....

[TokyoVigilante]

Godzilla would rape the nuke....

I dunno if you're trying to be funny or if you legitimately think Godzilla could survive a nuke. Unfortunately, the raw heat, concussive force, and energy would absolutely obliterate Godzilla into nothingness. That goes without mentioning the political ramifications of such a weapon.

But regardless of that, if the film uses an atomic bomb and Godzilla survives, they will instantly destroy any dramatic tension. They've used the ultimate weapon that humanity, in a reasonably grounded and modern setting, is capable of developing. All it will result in is a scene for Fantasy Match obsessed fanboys to drool and squeal over and something that is nothing but shallow machismo posturing.

[Crocodile]

Surprised so many people think Godzilla could survive a nuke, hell I've only ever seen one "Survive a nuke scene" that was any good. And that was Superman's survival in Kingdom Come.

Honestly if they hit Godzilla with so much as tactical nuke, it'd probably spoil the movie for most viewers.
Let alone the strategic nukes they would probably use if they were to write this movie (More recognizable)

[Kaiju-King42]

Okay, I gotta be honest here. How would Godzila surviving a nuke ruin the movie? I don't really understand.

[Crocodile]

Okay, I gotta be honest here. How would Godzila surviving a nuke ruin the movie? I don't really understand.

It's dumb

That's the problem with most of this Black Hole, Meteorite, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's dumb, and not the good kinda dumb the bad kind.

Godzilla surviving a nuke takes him from powerful, to "lolfuck physics" strong. It's just really, really dumb. The idea that a living creature could survive what essentially destroys things on the molecular level, it's crap. It's lazy writing, and fan-wanky "look how strong I am" crap for fantasy match nerds.

If you want to show Godzilla is strong have him take Air missiles out a F-22, the shells of an Abrams Tank, etc. Throw standard stuff at him, and work you're way up to larger more powerful Ballasitic non-nuclear missiles (Which I would like to see, ya know actually hurt him) or even a MOAB
It's lazy writing to throw the the strongest weapon out, and "uh lol, out of options rofl. He wins!" Especially ya know when a Tomahawk missile can carry the blast of nearly 10 Nagasakis, and a Sea Wolf class sub can carry up to 50.

And even then those are still just Kiloton warheads, MEGATON warheads are even more powerful. It'd just be lazy, bad writing.

I've only ever seen one good, surviving of nuke. That was Superman in Kingdom Come, and it only worked because he was left alone.

Nukes should kill him, plain and simple. Especially the Strategic Long Range missiles, everyone thinks of when they think nukes.

He was mutated from fallout, not from standing at Ground Zero.

[Ethan]

But regardless of that, if the film uses an atomic bomb and Godzilla survives, they will instantly destroy any dramatic tension. They've used the ultimate weapon that humanity, in a reasonably grounded and modern setting, is capable of developing. All it will result in is a scene for Fantasy Match obsessed fanboys to drool and squeal over and something that is nothing but shallow machismo posturing.

Nobody has complained about the various monsters from '50s B-movies surviving nuclear strikes and various modern weapons. When the world's greatest weapon is proven useless against a threatening creature, it increases dramatic tension.

Take The War of the Worlds for instance. The bomb is used as a last resort, and is shrugged by the martian war machines. This is a great way to start the film's third act, we truly believe humanity has lost the war, making the last minute salvation by germs more rewarding.

The Giant Claw, flawed as it is, makes a good use of the "monster vs. bomb" angle. The creature's invulnerabilty forces the characters to come up with a cleverly written plot device, they have to actually do things.

None of this matters as I woulnd't want Godzilla to be a villain, but seeing an older than dirt plot device as "childish, fanwaking" misses the point completely.

[Patrick Alan]

They could fire the nuke, and it anhilates everything, buildings collapse and such, then after the smoke clears, Godzilla is no where to be seen, but they notice that the radiation is myteriously being absorbed by something, then Godzilla rises out of the rubble, he's all burned up, still ok, but very tired, after absorbing all the radiation from the nuke he slips back into the ocean to rest. You could leave it at that for a sequal, or after he slips back into the water, they hunt him down and finally do him in with the Oxygen Destroyer.

[menschenjaeger]

The Giant Claw, flawed as it is...

What are you talking about?!

[FlamingZilla23]

Im sorry but wouldn't nuking him make him even more stronger?

[Giga Kaiju]

^ Maybe but its going to look awesome. That is something we havent seen in a Godzilla movie a nuke going of on him
(if you dont the comics).

[Inferno Rodan]

Nobody has complained about the various monsters from '50s B-movies surviving nuclear strikes and various modern weapons. When the world's greatest weapon is proven useless against a threatening creature, it increases dramatic tension.

Take The War of the Worlds for instance. The bomb is used as a last resort, and is shrugged by the martian war machines. This is a great way to start the film's third act, we truly believe humanity has lost the war, making the last minute salvation by germs more rewarding.

The Giant Claw, flawed as it is, makes a good use of the "monster vs. bomb" angle. The creature's invulnerabilty forces the characters to come up with a cleverly written plot device, they have to actually do things.

None of this matters as I woulnd't want Godzilla to be a villain, but seeing an older than dirt plot device as "childish, fanwaking" misses the point completely.

These two (and the unmentioned Kronos) are flawed examples. The Martian War Machines and La Carcagne both possess crazy indestructible force fields - both movies make a point that once those shields are bypassed, they're extremely vulnerable. Kronos is an energy sponge that's designed to absorb everything thrown at him - the entire plot of the movie revolves around that fact. Godzilla is just a tough SOB, and making him nuke-proof in an attempt to prove that point is stupid. If you have him survive a nuke because he's just that damn strong, where do you go from there? It's dumb from a narrative standpoint. I can also almost guarantee that such a feat would be blatantly contradicted at other points in the film, making it even sillier.

[Kiryu2012]

I wouldn't be suprised if they tried nuking Godzilla. And I certainly wouldn't be suprised if he walked out of it. What would be cool is that if Godzilla was nuked and just kept going, everyone would realize right then and there that they're skreeonk. Of course, if I were them, I would try to create a bioweapon to stop Godzilla.

[Tyler]

Nuking him would be a sad end to a movie/trilogy/series. The screen fades to white and the credits roll. It's up to us to decide what happens.

[Ethan]

It's up to us to make a choice,
you know that it's worth to save the Earth,
come raise your voice
Save the Earth!