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Re: Nuke him

Postby thatsoundman » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:27 pm

Living Corpse wrote:He probably only saw the messed up U.S. version. Hell I haven't even seen the Japanese version.


Actually, i have both and watched them back to back to make note of all the differences
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Re: Nuke him

Postby Shadow » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:22 am

Living Corpse wrote:He probably only saw the messed up U.S. version. Hell I haven't even seen the Japanese version.


All I have is the japanese version of Godzilla 1984.
Wouldn't nuking Godzilla make him stronger though?
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Re: Nuke him

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:40 am

Shadow wrote:
Living Corpse wrote:He probably only saw the messed up U.S. version. Hell I haven't even seen the Japanese version.


All I have is the japanese version of Godzilla 1984.
Wouldn't nuking Godzilla make him stronger though?


Depends where he is during the blast.

Not near ground zero he would take some damage and survive, absorb the energy and get stronger.

Standing right in the heart of it and he's dead, vaporized.

ROG pretty much showed what happens when he isn't in the heart of the explosion, because the nuke was set off way high in the sky and the fallout brought him back for round 2 with Super X. It's pretty much how a Godzilla is made too, as long as there not in the heart of the explosion but somewhere that's distant enough to not be killed by the explosion and still close enough for the wind to carry fallout to them and it mutates a dinosaur and bam! Godzilla.
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Re: Nuke him

Postby Shadow » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:19 am

Living Corpse wrote:
Depends where he is during the blast.

Not near ground zero he would take some damage and survive, absorb the energy and get stronger.

Standing right in the heart of it and he's dead, vaporized.

ROG pretty much showed what happens when he isn't in the heart of the explosion, because the nuke was set off way high in the sky and the fallout brought him back for round 2 with Super X. It's pretty much how a Godzilla is made too, as long as there not in the heart of the explosion but somewhere that's distant enough to not be killed by the explosion and still close enough for the wind to carry fallout to them and it mutates a dinosaur and bam! Godzilla.


Ahh, gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up mate.
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Re: Nuke him

Postby Berzerkgodzilla » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:51 am

Living Corpse wrote:Standing right in the heart of it and he's dead, vaporized.


Who says? Like I said before he is a fictional character, and toho has had him survive some other stupid shit :P
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Re: Nuke him

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:19 am

And promptly get criticized for it.

Surviving a black hole? Seriously?
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Re: Nuke him

Postby CookieMonster » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:12 am

Living Corpse wrote:And promptly get criticized for it.

Surviving a black hole? Seriously?

Lol! I've always wondered about black holes, in reality no one knows what's on the other side, when we go through, do we come out alive or dead? I guess no one will know until someone goes through one, but then again, us being on the other side would never know what happened to that person.
But if I remember right, Godzilla just more or less escaped ever entering the black hole?
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Re: Nuke him

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:56 am

Yeah I know right, and let's not forget the Absolute Zero but that can be explained with the ocean spreading the effect and making it less concentrated. :lol:

There's still some confusion on that. I've heard theories that because it's a pseudo black hole and not a true one it doesn't act 100% like one. I've heard theories it pushed him in the ground (black holes have ungodly mass for their size) because it's gravity wasn't strong enough to actually suck him up and crush him and I've even heard one where it just sends him a short time in the future.

Truth be told I'm still confused as to what happened. It's not as bad as the sloppy explanation of the time travel in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah but still...
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Re: Nuke him

Postby Godzillaprime05 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:27 am

He also used his breath weapon when the AZC fired, heating it up further. Water also has a high specific heat, so it is highly resistant to temp changes.
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Re: Nuke him

Postby CookieMonster » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:40 am

Living Corpse wrote:Yeah I know right, and let's not forget the Absolute Zero but that can be explained with the ocean spreading the effect and making it less concentrated. :lol:

There's still some confusion on that. I've heard theories that because it's a pseudo black hole and not a true one it doesn't act 100% like one. I've heard theories it pushed him in the ground (black holes have ungodly mass for their size) because it's gravity wasn't strong enough to actually suck him up and crush him and I've even heard one where it just sends him a short time in the future.

Truth be told I'm still confused as to what happened. It's not as bad as the sloppy explanation of the time travel in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah but still...

Lol! Sometimes.. man.. Godzilla just... sometimes man... lol, Just blows my mind.
I know the plots are highly ludicrous anyway (We're talking about a giant dinosaur who is impervious to weapons for the most part), and what with all you stated above, all the confusion, one probably couldn't have an explanation for everything in the movies anyway, but I cant help but wonder if Toho was an American/English speaking company would a lot of this be explained better? For starters, things wouldn't get lost in translation, and people could more readily ask questions. But then again plenty of American movies have gaping plot holes and misunderstandings that have never even been attempted to be explained by their makers, who speak the exact same language as us.
But I mean someone (at Toho, scriptwriters, directors, creative directors, etc.) has to have some kind of canonical explanation for how Godzilla survived the Black Hole (other than just to look cool), an exact timeline for Godzilla Vs. King Ghidorah, the Absolute Zero Cannon, etc., Right?
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Re: Nuke him

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:46 am

Nah it's Toho. Just throw them cash and they'll be like "okay, we'll make a cool movie but don't expect us to hold you're hands and explain everything". :lol:
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Re: Nuke him

Postby Crocodile » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:55 pm

Godzillaprime05 wrote:He also used his breath weapon when the AZC fired, heating it up further. Water also has a high specific heat, so it is highly resistant to temp changes.



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Re: Nuke him

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:04 pm

Crocodile wrote:
Godzillaprime05 wrote:He also used his breath weapon when the AZC fired, heating it up further. Water also has a high specific heat, so it is highly resistant to temp changes.



My brian is so full of WHAT right now.


When Kiryu grabbed Godzilla by the mouth so he couldn't shoot his death ray. It was still charging when they crashed in the bay and the AZC went off.
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Re: Nuke him

Postby Godzillaprime05 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:08 pm

I thought he got it off because to use the AZC kiryu would have let go so his arms wouldn't be in the way which is when the ray would've been fired.
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Re: Nuke him

Postby Tyler » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:13 pm

I thought he was only pushed underground by the black hole gun.
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Re: Nuke him

Postby MandaSaurus » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:04 pm

They nuked the 'Cloverfield' monster...................

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Re: Nuke him

Postby GodzillaIsCool » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:21 pm

I thought the end of Cloverfield was that they nuked him off camera? No?
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Re: Nuke him

Postby Crocodile » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:56 pm

GodzillaIsCool wrote:I thought the end of Cloverfield was that they nuked him off camera? No?


If they nuked something that close to the camera

The Camera is vaporized and there is no movie

It was probably a MOAB
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Re: Nuke him

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:30 pm

Like SSG4 said, carpet bomb.
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Re: Nuke him

Postby GodzillaIsCool » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:54 pm

Oh ya. The camera would of been smoked. Touche my friend.
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Re: Nuke him

Postby Breakdown » Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:06 pm

Plus the gamma radiation would destroy the film if the sheer incindiary properties of the bomb dont.
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