Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

[Kaiju-King42]

^^^ Maybe the crystals exhausted their energies?

Anyway, I really don't think that there is such thing as a "hyper corona beam". I think Toho would probably have mentioned something like that. This "hyper" corona beam could have easily just hit the joint of Moguera's arm, and as proved by their space battle earlier in the movie, that spot isn't very durable.

In addition, I have been doing a bit of thinking, and I believe that Destoroyah may be smarter than we think he is. Think back to how he has a hive mind, over his micro-organisms. This could be comparable to a superhero (or villain, which is probably a better example) that has the power to control his molecules. Now, in order to rearrange your molecules to assume a shape, you can't be a creature that simply relies on instinct. You need to form mental picture of what you want to become, and rearrange your molecules accordingly. You have to create blood, eyes, a mouth, an organ or structure that can allow you to use a laser horn, all kinds of things have to be created in order to create a body as functional and as complex as Destoroyah's are. To do this, you need intelligence, and a good chunk of it. In fact, If you suddenly realized you could rearrange your molecules, would you know, as a intelligent human being, how to arrange your molecules exactly to make an eye, or blood, or armor, or bone or an organ? I doubt it, unless you are really good at biology.

Body building isn't just instincts for a colony of precambrian critters. To change form the way he does, Destoroyah needs a good deal of smarts. Which means that he isn't just an average kaiju in the intelligence department like most make him out to be. Even his attack style demands intelligence. Destoroyah is an ambusher, shown god knows how many times in the Destoroyah vs Solider scene, his jump attack on Jr, coming out of nowhere to snatch Jr and knock down Godzilla, the aggregate swarm scene, and the scene where he attacks Godzilla from behind while caught of guard mourning Jr. Compare Destoroyah's attack style with Spacegodzilla's beam spamming, and I'm beginning to think Dessy might just have another advantage over Spacegodzilla, smarts.

If anyone would like to debate this, please provide examples of Spacegodzilla showing incredible intelligence.

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He even attacked it which leads me to believe he can't control the CR too well.

...Okay I'm coming back in real quick for this....What?

Space Godzilla has complete and perfect control over the Corona Beam. The Corona Beam never missed. From what I can tell, Space Godzilla always hit where he wanted to hit.

You're telling me he WANTED to hit and destroy his power source? Instead of the CR curving and hitting Godzilla it hits the building.

If anyone would like to debate this, please provide examples of Spacegodzilla showing incredible intelligence.

He...um....made Junior dance like a monkey for the sheer pleasure of being a dick? You have to be smart to be an asshole

(obvious sarcasm is obvious)

[Gyaos]

Not to mention the Corona ray struck MOGUERA's arm at the elbow joint, an unarmored part of the body.

[GojiFan]

Not to mention the Corona ray struck MOGUERA's arm at the elbow joint, an unarmored part of the body.

Which is a pretty big argument against the whole "hyper corona beam" idea.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

You're telling me he WANTED to hit and destroy his power source? Instead of the CR curving and hitting Godzilla it hits the building.

He hit his power source, but it didn't destroy it. He knew that.

Also, that's just one instance. There's still every other time he fires the Corona Beam in the film.

[Kaiju-King42]

You're telling me he WANTED to hit and destroy his power source? Instead of the CR curving and hitting Godzilla it hits the building.

He hit his power source, but it didn't destroy it. He knew that.

Also, that's just one instance. There's still every other time he fires the Corona Beam in the film.

Now that I think about it, that was one tough building! Godzilla was slamming into it and it didn't even dent!

[PopInPicsPresents]

You're telling me he WANTED to hit and destroy his power source? Instead of the CR curving and hitting Godzilla it hits the building.

He hit his power source, but it didn't destroy it. He knew that.

Also, that's just one instance. There's still every other time he fires the Corona Beam in the film.

No, he retardedly fired it at least 3 times at his power source. If he had complete control he wouldn't have.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

You're telling me he WANTED to hit and destroy his power source? Instead of the CR curving and hitting Godzilla it hits the building.

He hit his power source, but it didn't destroy it. He knew that.

Also, that's just one instance. There's still every other time he fires the Corona Beam in the film.

No, he retardedly fired it at least 3 times at his power source. If he had complete control he wouldn't have.

You're going to have to prove to me that he hit is power source three times, because I don't remember that happening in the film.

[Gyaos]

Actually I remember the Corona ray hitting the tower, Im almost 98% positive he did. I have Crackle on my Xbox so I'll go watch the film later to refresh my memory to be certain.

[Tomzilla]

As I said, it took multiple shots to the same spot to produce that wound, and never again in the movie did it come close to doing that level of damage.

So you think it took multiple shots to weaken Godzilla's shoulder before that Corona Beam blasted chunks off of it?

If so, you're wrong. Before that last Corona Beam ravaged Godzilla's shoulder, we didn't see any damage. We didn't see the shoulder weakening in any way. Besides, Godzilla has super regeneration. If what you're saying is true, then those previous Corona Beams had to be very powerful to neutralize his healing long enough for that last one to blow chunks out of his shoulder. Which isn't the case.

No, what happened is SpaceGodzilla put more juice into that last Corona Beam, which is why it inflicted that much damage.

Not to mention the Corona ray struck MOGUERA's arm at the elbow joint, an unarmored part of the body.

Actually, the Corona Beam didn't even hit the elbow joint. Watch the scene closely. It actually hit MOGUERA's cone-shaped hand, which didn't stop it from ripping the arm off. That's very impressive.

What makes you think it was unarmored? Looks armored to me.

[Gyaos]

If you look, the elbows have that same flexible, rubbery materiel like Mechagodzilla and Mecha-King Ghidorah had. I doubt thats going to provide any protection. Regardless I'll be watching the film In a moment and keep an eye out for this.

[Tomzilla]

If you look, the elbows have that same flexible, rubbery materiel like Mechagodzilla and Mecha-King Ghidorah had. I doubt thats going to provide any protection. Regardless I'll be watching the film In a moment and keep an eye out for this.

Yes, I see the flexible, 'rubbery' material. It's not where the arm was ripped off. It was ripped off between the cone-shaped hands and its elbow. While that material you described is more positioned at the base of MOGUERA's shoulders.

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You're going to have to prove to me that he hit is power source three times, because I don't remember that happening in the film.

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As the Corona Ray hits Godzilla it also damages the building quite a bit. Maybe not 3 times but it does hit it in a continuous stream.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

You're going to have to prove to me that he hit is power source three times, because I don't remember that happening in the film.

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As the Corona Ray hits Godzilla it also damages the building quite a bit. Maybe not 3 times but it does hit it in a continuous stream.

From what I can tell in that still, it looks like the Corona Beam only hits Godzilla. That big cloud of smoke kind of makes it unclear, especially since (in the still at least) the cloud is so dense.

[Gyaos]

@ Tomzilla



If you look closely, the arm gets blown off directly behind the cone shaped hand or on the area between the hand and elbow. Either way its hitting an unarmored section of the arm.

[Tomzilla]

@ Tomzilla



If you look closely, the arm gets blown off directly behind the cone shaped hand or on the area between the hand and elbow. Either way its hitting an unarmored section of the arm.

I ask again: what makes you think it's unarmored?


And yes, SpaceGodzilla did hit his tower with his Corona Beams.

[Gyaos]

What makes you think it is? How is it that every time MOGUERA is hit hes fine yet when that particular spot is hit, the arm comes clean off? The Corona ray hitting a "soft spot" sounds more plausable than Spacegodzilla making his Corona ray stronger especially since he was rapidly losing power.

[GojiFan]

So you think it took multiple shots to weaken Godzilla's shoulder before that Corona Beam blasted chunks off of it?

If so, you're wrong. Before that last Corona Beam ravaged Godzilla's shoulder, we didn't see any damage. We didn't see the shoulder weakening in any way. Besides, Godzilla has super regeneration. If what you're saying is true, then those previous Corona Beams had to be very powerful to neutralize his healing long enough for that last one to blow chunks out of his shoulder. Which isn't the case.

No, what happened is SpaceGodzilla put more juice into that last Corona Beam, which is why it inflicted that much damage.

So my theory is multiple strikes in the same spot caused more destructive result, where as yours is that one time out of the dozens of times he hit Godzilla with the corona beam he put more power into it. Right, sorry if I don't believe your theory that SG used his most powerful ray one time and at the very beginning of the movie and never again. So this brings us to one of two things:

1. I am wrong, you are right. In this case, SG has even more evidence in his favor of being a kaiju with absolutely no grasp on tactics. Your most powerful ray can blow chunks out of the kaiju that is killing you but you never use it?

Or

2. I am right, you are wrong. Godzilla's regeneration is not instant. There is a pretty decent chance that quick, consecutive attacks to the same spot can overpower his regen and produce that effect. This is the one I am going with, and I will address why in my next point.

Actually, the Corona Beam didn't even hit the elbow joint. Watch the scene closely. It actually hit MOGUERA's cone-shaped hand, which didn't stop it from ripping the arm off. That's very impressive.

What makes you think it was unarmored? Looks armored to me.

First, here are two pictures of MOGUERA after firing the SGM. We can clearly see the cone hasn't closed around the missiles and another two are already loaded up. The second picture shows them still being open as SG fires his corona beam.



Now, here is the picture that proves your theory completely wrong.


What you see there on the right is the entire cone-shaped portion of the arm go flying off. If the corona beam had hit the cone part of the arm, the SG missile would have exploded and blew the cone to pieces. Which means that the beam hit the arm behind the cone. That portion isn't necessarily unarmored, but it is a joint and also the thinnest part of MOGUERA. By those two properties, it would be pretty obvious for it to lack the most armor compared to other areas of MOGUERA. You can clearly see in the picture just posted before me that it is mostly wiring and little to no armor.

[miguelnuva]

Why do some think Destroyer was beating Godzilla one sidedly in their fight it was pretty even till Godzilla powered up again.

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Why do some think Destroyer was beating Godzilla one sidedly in their fight it was pretty even till Godzilla powered up again.

...Nobody said that..