Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:32 pm

Gyaos wrote:^ Which can also be used against them, as I stated in my example. Ripa lost because of his cocky nature, which resulted in him getting stabbed in the throat with a knife then impailed with his own Energy Sword.


Freddy Kruger probably wouldn't die as often as he does if he just killed them already. But that's just not his style.

In some ways fighting Destroyah is worse because he doesn't want to give you any breathing space, he attacked a mourning Godzilla. Spacegodzilla would have just sat there and laughed at his salty tears.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:47 pm

Um, this isn't a fight. If not, we might as well move this to the FMs.

Regardless of whether Destoroyah can defeat SG, SG has more power at his disposal.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:52 pm

Meanwhile on the moon...

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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:53 pm

Living Corpse wrote:Meanwhile in on the moon...

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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Gyaos » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:55 pm

^^ I was half expecting the Bagan Help You one with all this talk about the Horn Katana :lol:

Anyway back on track, I stand by my point that Destroyah is the superior monster.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GojiFan » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:57 pm

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My apologizes, I should not have said "damage". What I should have said was something more along the lines of "Here's the size of the explosion" or "Here's what the beam does".
Besides what Tom said, you are ignoring the different perspective we are witnessing the explosions from. The scene from Godzilla vs Destroyah is from the side. The view from the other picture is with the beam hitting the ground right in front of where the camera would be.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:04 pm

Gyaos wrote:^^ I was half expecting the Bagan Help You one with all this talk about the Horn Katana :lol:

Anyway back on track, I stand by my point that Destroyah is the superior monster.


You mean this old thing?

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But yeah I think it depends on the circumstances. Spacegodzilla is pretty strong in physical fights but he prefers long range blasting and Destroyah will keep knocking him to the ground. And keeping him at bay will only work for so long before he decides to break up into his smaller forms and ambush him that way.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:06 pm

Living Corpse wrote:But yeah I think it depends on the circumstances. Spacegodzilla is pretty strong in physical fights but he prefers long range blasting and Destroyah will keep knocking him to the ground. And keeping him at bay will only work for so long before he decides to break up into his smaller forms and ambush him that way.


I think that would go about as well as when they did that to Meltdown Godzilla.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby RedZillaKing » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:09 pm

What's stopping SpaceGodzilla from taking to the air and raining Corona Beams down on Dessy? Also, wouldn't the CBs have about the same effect on Destoroyah as the red beam with their piercy, explodey nature?
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GojiFan » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:15 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:What's stopping SpaceGodzilla from taking to the air and raining Corona Beams down on Dessy? Also, wouldn't the CBs have about the same effect on Destoroyah as the red beam with their piercy, explodey nature?

Possibly, but Destroyah is still a ridiculously durable kaiju. He took multiple spiral beams that would have killed or at least crippled most other Heisei kaiju, yet he was still in good enough health to fly away.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Gyaos » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:16 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:What's stopping SpaceGodzilla from taking to the air and raining Corona Beams down on Dessy? Also, wouldn't the CBs have about the same effect on Destoroyah as the red beam with their piercy, explodey nature?


Gyaos wrote:This may sound kinda stupid but it's like a Rocket Launcher vs a Sniper Rifle. The Spiral Ray is hot (obviously) and does widespread damage like a Rocket Launcher, which is why Godzilla was able to make Destroyah literally vomit his own blood and blow off chunks of him, and ultimatly make him retreat. The Corona Ray is more like a Sniper Rifle and only does damage to the specific area you aim it at.

Basically what I'm trying to say is even if Spacegodzilla's ray is hot, it just doesnt dish out the amount of heat/widespread damage in one shot like the Spiral Ray does in order to make Destroyah retreat.


The Corona beam lacks the widespread damage/explosive power of the Spiral ray, and thus wont be able to damage him as much as Godzilla did. That and as SimeonAssasin posted, Destroyah's body can possibly form countermeasures against it. Destroyah can fly too, so flying and corona spamming will make little diffrence.

Thing is Spacegodzilla lacks the tools to kill/make Destroyah retreat, nor does he have the tools to stop Destroyah before he lands a killing blow.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby RedZillaKing » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:19 pm

Okay so how about a dogfight between the two of them? It seems like Final Form Destoroyah is less maneuverable in the air than SG (who successfully navigated an asteroid field... I don't have to tell you the odds). However, if he chooses his more agile Flying Form won't he be more vulnerable?
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:21 pm

Asteroid Fields are actually more spacious then films would like you to believe, most of these space rocks are miles apart.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:45 pm

Thing is Spacegodzilla lacks the tools to kill/make Destroyah retreat, nor does he have the tools to stop Destroyah before he lands a killing blow.


Destoroyah doesn't have the tools to make Space Godzilla retreat either. That statement rings more true with Destoroyah to Space Godzilla than it does with Space Godzilla to Destoroyah.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:48 pm

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
Thing is Spacegodzilla lacks the tools to kill/make Destroyah retreat, nor does he have the tools to stop Destroyah before he lands a killing blow.


Destoroyah doesn't have the tools to make Space Godzilla retreat either. That statement rings more true with Destoroyah to Space Godzilla than it does with Space Godzilla to Destoroyah.


Why not post that in the FM? I didn't make it for nothing :P

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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GojiFan » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:01 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:
Why not post that in the FM? I didn't make it for nothing :P

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I don't think GxG should do that. While I definitely respect his opinion on movies, the fm's are not his strong suite. That is probably why he stopped posting in them.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:40 pm

GojiFan wrote:
PopInPicsPresents wrote:
Why not post that in the FM? I didn't make it for nothing :P

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8860

I don't think GxG should do that. While I definitely respect his opinion on movies, the fm's are not his strong suite. That is probably why he stopped posting in them.


Part of the reason I stopped doing Fantasy Matches was because I either wasn't very good at them, I just copied what other people said (usually people I lost in debates with), or that I'm out of date now with who people are usually using (I haven't watched anything Ultraman related, so I can't participate in those FMs). But the main reason I stopped doing them was because I no longer found them fun or enjoyable. I realized that they never end well, and I usually spend way more time than I should on them.

That's why I stopped putting so much emphasis on FMs, and switched to analyzing and critiquing movies, which I'm much better at, and enjoy doing more.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby miguelnuva » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:12 pm

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
There is no rule that says Godzilla's red ray is more powerful than Godzilla's blue ray.


The rule that Godzilla has a blue ray and has to undergo a power up in every movie to get a red ray.[/quote]

...That's only true for Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II and Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla. It's not true for Godzilla vs. Destoroyah.[/quote]

Also in final wars

In destroyer his energy is overloading so at the min that's 3 out of 4 movies we see a spiral ray Godzilla needs extra energy to use it, that tells me that Godzilla needs a power up to unleash and spiral ray.

Also while not a true spiral ray GMK Goji used Ghidorah's energy to make a spiral ray.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby zachmanton » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:47 pm

Imo Destroyah is the more powerful of the two.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby ghidorasauras » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:56 pm

space Godzilla. and destroyah didn't kill Godzilla, he had a meltdown
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