Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby Rody » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:40 am

RedZillaKing wrote:The Spinosaurus was MUCH larger than a Carcharo. That doesn't change the fact that the Carcharo was way more lethal.

One might compare the two to a crane & a golden eagle. The crane is the larger bird, but the eagle is designed to kill larger prey - which may include the crane.
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby Varan 1958 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:19 pm

Rody wrote:
RedZillaKing wrote:The Spinosaurus was MUCH larger than a Carcharo. That doesn't change the fact that the Carcharo was way more lethal.

One might compare the two to a crane & a golden eagle. The crane is the larger bird, but the eagle is designed to kill larger prey - which may include the crane.

Well, that's true, but do you see the golden eagle hunting creatures as large or even larger than itself? No. Once again, it can be useful to compare extinct predators to living predators, but Carcharodontosaurus may have hunted animals that could be even bigger than it. Golden Eagles however hunt smaller animals, such as smaller birds, ammals, and reptiles. It isn't a fair comparison.
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:55 pm

Except the Spinosaurus is nearly, if not just as powerful a creature as a Carcharo, in addition to its superior bulk and size, so the crane vs eagle argument doesn't really fit. I don't doubt that a Carcharo would beat a Spino more times than vice-versa, but I don't see shark-tooth risking such a confrontation unless it was in a pack.
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby HikizuruBeat » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:48 pm

I think a Carno might win. Isn't the Spinosaurus main diet fish anyways.
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby RedZillaKing » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:46 pm

Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:Except the Spinosaurus is nearly, if not just as powerful a creature as a Carcharo, in addition to its superior bulk and size, so the crane vs eagle argument doesn't really fit. I don't doubt that a Carcharo would beat a Spino more times than vice-versa, but I don't see shark-tooth risking such a confrontation unless it was in a pack.

I really meant a juvenile, teenaged or sick Spino. Most predators won't even attack a large healthy adult animal. Especially large healthy adult animals twice their size!
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby Flygon King » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:52 pm

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Now back to the ACTUAL match, Carnotaurus has this. As had already been stated, that Carno's got better and more consistant feats than SPiny's got.
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby Rody » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:25 pm

Varan 1958 wrote:Well, that's true, but do you see the golden eagle hunting creatures as large or even larger than itself? No.

Yes.
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby RedZillaKing » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:15 pm

Awwwwww shheeeeeiiitt! Owned!
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:46 am

I don't know a whole shitload about dinosaurs, but was the real life Spinosaurus as overrated and overhyped as the Jurassic Park version, or is the one everyone is talking about here a totally fabricated and powered-up version of the animal?
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby Berzerkgodzilla » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:21 pm

JP3 Spino is a super juiced dinosaur. Spinosaurus ate fish and I haven't read much on it in a while but I'm pretty sure it's bite force was pretty low compared to other giant carnivores. What it did have though was size. A real Spino was actually bigger than the JP3 Spino (Who was 43 ft)
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby Varan 1958 » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:49 pm

Rody wrote:
Varan 1958 wrote:Well, that's true, but do you see the golden eagle hunting creatures as large or even larger than itself? No.

Yes.

Wow, I never expected to see that. You see something new everyday. :shock:

Anyways, I just rewatched the scene where the Spino fought the T-rex. It got pushed around quite a bit by the smaller T-rex, and it didn't fight as aggressively as the T-rex did. The Carno also attacked aggresively, and being that would be bigger than the Spino in this match, it's safe to say that Carno will beat the Spino.
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby KaijuSapian » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:29 pm

I'm just jumping in here without reading a majority of comments, so I apologize if I repeat anything, I just don't feel like reading 5 pages of this stuff right this moment. I just wanted to throw in my own thoughts.

I'm going to give this to the scaled up Carnotaurus. I recently rewatched Dinosaur, and it was able to take on three igaunodons before being pushed of the cliff, that's nothing to sneeze at. Plus all that extra bulk it would have after being scaled up, Carnotaurus would be quite durable. I doubt Spinosaurus' bite would be able to get through that thick neck of his. I imagine Carnotaurus would continuously bull-rush Spinosaurus into submission, or until it gave up and walked away.
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby kaiju115 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:33 am

For fiction maybe Carnotaurus, but if the two ever met in real life, I say Spinosaurus is the champion of this battle.
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby GodzillaXGomoraFight » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:58 am

Since we are talking about the JP3 Spinosaurus, there is no point of talking about the actual Spino. Against a Carnotaurus that is scaled to his size, I think that Spino would be the winner. His superior reach and maybe bite force as well, this match could end up like his fight with the T-Rex. Carno may have some armor, but I think that Spino had much more impressive feats such as breaking through the fence,killing the T-Rex, and chasing the characters in water.
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:22 am

What does chasing characters in water have to do with anything? Or busting through a corroded fence?
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby Varan 1958 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:24 am

GodzillaXGomoraFight wrote:Since we are talking about the JP3 Spinosaurus, there is no point of talking about the actual Spino. Against a Carnotaurus that is scaled to his size, I think that Spino would be the winner. His superior reach and maybe bite force as well, this match could end up like his fight with the T-Rex. Carno may have some armor, but I think that Spino had much more impressive feats such as breaking through the fence,killing the T-Rex, and chasing the characters in water.

Yeah, but it's been said the the Carno would be BIGGER if it's scaled. This is what RZK said a few pages back.


RedZillaKing wrote:Really glad someone else did this because I thought I'd have to. Spino isn't snapping the Carno's neck. In fact, at 45 feet this Carno would be scaled UP from the one shown in the pic by 5 feet. This Carnotaurus makes lil' rexy look like a pup.
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Besides, the T-rex in the film was quite smaller than the Spino, and it was easily shoving it around. It even slung the Spino to the ground by the neck. Did the Spino fight that aggresssively? Nope. The only hit it scored was that neck snap. One could say that the Spino was fighting tactically, but in a fight against a creature bigger than it, AKA: the Carno, it's strategy won't be very helpful. Also said earlier, the Spino breaking through the fence isn't impressive, as metal corrodes over time. I think RZK also said that.
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby GodzillaXGomoraFight » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:04 pm

O I didn't see the specificatioms made in the beginning. According to that data, Spino is slighter bigger than Carno according to the link. I still think that Spino would win for the same reasons.
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby Varan 1958 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:58 pm

GodzillaXGomoraFight wrote:O I didn't see the specificatioms made in the beginning. According to that data, Spino is slighter bigger than Carno according to the link. I still think that Spino would win for the same reasons.

Actually, Carno would be bigger. This is what RZK posted as well. ( I sure am quoting you alot!)


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Spino would be 20 ft. high at his sail, but without that, it's only 16 ft. long. And since Carno is scaled up, Spino has a VERY low chance of winning, as Carno would be much larger, and can put up an aggressive fight.
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby RedZillaKing » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:32 am

Essentially, yes. The carno would also outweight the Spino by something like 6 tons at this size due to his stocky build.
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Re: Carnotaurus vs. Spinosaurus

Postby GodzillaXGomoraFight » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:45 pm

The Monster Archives link still says that Spino is 26 ft tall and 50 ft long, and I guess it might not be scaled if he specified how tall Carno is in the rules. With the dimensions given in the rules, Spino would be bigger in this situation.
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