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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:03 pm

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:Also, Space Godzilla doesn't need an ice weapon to bring down Destoroyah. Destoroyah has to break down and then reform to become whole again. What's stopping Space Godzilla from attacking Destoroyah's smaller forms when they've broken down, and kill all of the smaller Destoroyah's before they can reform? I mean, the Corona Beam can break into multiple beams, can hit multiple targets, and never missed his target with the Corona Beam. It wouldn't be too hard for Space Godzilla to hit any of the smaller Destoroyah's and kill them in one hit of the Corona Beam.


The corona beam would blow the aggregates apart. And then they would just grow back. You need super cold temperatures to kill the microbes. :roll:

When Godzilla pulled the triple beam combo and wounded Dessy, Dessy split up, but later reformed WITHOUT the wound. Godzilla's beam, despite its high temperatures, didn't kill the microbes, but it did separate them from each other, possibly because the heat excited them as it does with normal molecules. If it killed the microbes, then when Destoroyah reformed, he would still have a hole in him somewhere due to the microbes absence.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:16 pm

Just a reminder, not every fight has to be to the death to be considered a victory, sometimes just making the other side run away counts as a win. We know Destroyah has enough intelligence to know the old "better to run and fight another day" since he tried to do exactly that in Godzilla vs Destroyah. He would have done it too if the G-Force didn't shoot his sorry ass down. Hell I'm sure Spacegodzilla considered escaping once both his towers and shoulder crystals were destroyed. If he did then he choose to stay which was a bad idea since that's when Godzilla decided to use his Spiral Beam as the finishing blow.

In theory one side could just keep coming at the other if nothing goes wrong until one of them decides that the fight is going nowhere or worse not in their favor and runs away.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:26 pm

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GotengoXGodzilla wrote:Also, Space Godzilla doesn't need an ice weapon to bring down Destoroyah. Destoroyah has to break down and then reform to become whole again. What's stopping Space Godzilla from attacking Destoroyah's smaller forms when they've broken down, and kill all of the smaller Destoroyah's before they can reform? I mean, the Corona Beam can break into multiple beams, can hit multiple targets, and never missed his target with the Corona Beam. It wouldn't be too hard for Space Godzilla to hit any of the smaller Destoroyah's and kill them in one hit of the Corona Beam.


The corona beam would blow the aggregates apart. And then they would just grow back. You need super cold temperatures to kill the microbes. :roll:

When Godzilla pulled the triple beam combo and wounded Dessy, Dessy split up, but later reformed WITHOUT the wound. Godzilla's beam, despite its high temperatures, didn't kill the microbes, but it did separate them from each other, possibly because the heat excited them as it does with normal molecules. If it killed the microbes, then when Destoroyah reformed, he would still have a hole in him somewhere due to the microbes absence.


They way I see it, Destoroyah's reformation is magic. Clearly, Godzilla killed a ton of microbes, both in the adult form and the aggregate form, but not all of them. The remaining microbes then came back together and magically formed the full adult Destoroyah again. No real explanation for it, it just happened because the plot says so (in other words, magic).

Though I swear, it does look like the second time the adult form comes back, it's shorter. So I really don't think that if microbes were absent, there would be holes in Destoroyah. Destoroyah would just be shorter.

Either way, there's more than one way to kill the Destoroyah microbes. You could freeze them, or you could just blast them to pieces.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:23 pm

Okay then. Let me know when you find out how SG can blast molecule sized objects to pieces.

Destoroyah's reforming isn't magic if you look at it in a different way. Basically, imagine all your molecules being living creatures, and you can control them. (Like a hive mind) It's basically the ability to manipulate your molecules to form any shape.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:37 pm

He doesn't need to kill him just make him retreat. If Destroyah never destroys his shoulder crystals or tower then he can very well go on forever.

That is assuming Destroyah never figures it out. He might. And if he does his Horn Katana is prefect for chopping off said shoulder crystals.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Gyaos » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:40 pm

Spacegodzilla lacks the proper tools to make Destroyah retreat (Extreme heat, Extreme cold), plus didnt they say that you need to kill/weaken Destroyah at a molecular level with cold temperatures in the film?
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:42 pm

I'm no expert but I imagine the Cornoa Beams is pretty hot and since it's made to actually stab before exploding (hell it even looks like a scorpion stinger) it may or may not break through Destroyah's armor. Food for thought.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Gyaos » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:51 pm

This may sound kinda stupid but it's like a Rocket Launcher vs a Sniper Rifle. The Spiral Ray is hot (obviously) and does widespread damage like a Rocket Launcher, which is why Godzilla was able to make Destroyah literally vomit his own blood and blow off chunks of him, and ultimatly make him retreat. The Corona Ray is more like a Sniper Rifle and only does damage to the specific area you aim it at.

Basically what I'm trying to say is even if Spacegodzilla's ray is hot, it just doesnt dish out the amount of heat/widespread damage in one shot like the Spiral Ray does in order to make Destroyah retreat.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:03 pm

Gyaos wrote:This may sound kinda stupid but it's like a Rocket Launcher vs a Sniper Rifle. The Spiral Ray is hot (obviously) and does widespread damage like a Rocket Launcher, which is why Godzilla was able to make Destroyah literally vomit his own blood and blow off chunks of him, and ultimatly make him retreat. The Corona Ray is more like a Sniper Rifle and only does damage to the specific area you aim it at.

Basically what I'm trying to say is even if Spacegodzilla's ray is hot, it just doesnt dish out the amount of heat/widespread damage in one shot like the Spiral Ray does in order to make Destroyah retreat.


No that analogy makes prefect sense and is the best fit. I'm just saying the Corona Beam is made to stab into the enemy before going off so even if it doesn't have the wide spread advantage to burn all of Destroyah it can still stab and break through the armor and do some damage.

In short, the Corona beam won't kill him but it sure as hell will hurt him and that might, and I admit that is a big might, make Destroyah retreat since Destroayh did try to get away from Godzilla.

But really I can see this match going either way.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:08 pm

Destoroyah has incredible durability showings. He took three super spiral rays and remained relatively intact! Before that, he took a ray at the start of the fight and didn't even flinch. It was the rays shot into his open floral pattern (an obvious weak point, as it exists to fire the deleated wave motion ray and is protectively covered by bony armor.) that managed to damage him. Unless Destoroyah opens his floral pattern, I can't see SG doing much damage with his beam, or most kaiju beams for that matter.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:22 pm

Living Corpse wrote:He doesn't need to kill him just make him retreat. If Destroyah never destroys his shoulder crystals or tower then he can very well go on forever.

That is assuming Destroyah never figures it out. He might. And if he does his Horn Katana is prefect for chopping off said shoulder crystals.


Destoroyah would probably never use the Laser Horn, seeing how Destoroyah likes to keep its distance in fights. The Laser Horn is a weapon that is only helpful at close distances, which Destoroyah tends to avoid.

Also, Destoroyah is insanely bad with aiming the Laser Horn. It could have easily decapitated Godzilla, but choose to hit areas that Godzilla could live from. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Destoroyah was close enough to use the Laser Horn on Space Godzilla. It probably would not aim for the shoulder crystals, and instead go for the chest, which Space Godzilla would regenerate from.

Okay then. Let me know when you find out how SG can blast molecule sized objects to pieces.


Seeing how Space Godzilla never missed with his Corona Beam, that shouldn't be too hard. Stomping on them would be just as effective I'm sure. Or electric touch, or Gravity Tornados.

The Spiral Ray is hot (obviously) and does widespread damage like a Rocket Launcher, which is why Godzilla was able to make Destroyah literally vomit his own blood and blow off chunks of him, and ultimatly make him retreat.


Hate to break it to you, Meltdown Godzilla never used the Spiral Ray on Destoroyah until he reached 1190 degrees. Until that point, it was just a red version of his regular blue ray. It was no more powerful than it, in fact it might have been weaker. There was no spiral in that beam, therefore it wasn't the Spiral Ray.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:06 am

If Destroyah got close and personal with SG, one of 2 things would happen. The Laser Horn would be used, most likely cutting across the shoulder and into the chest, or Destoroyah would fling SG to the ground with absolute minimal effort. And as for the Corona Beam never missing? Seriously ?! We're talking about two larthargic as skreeonk Toho creations. Overcourse the CRs always hit. Saying that it can destroy every microb in Destoroyah's body is beyond idiotic. A battle between the two would probably go on for days until eventually SG's crystals are destroyed or its tower is destroyed leaving Destoroyah as the winner.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:16 am

If Destroyah got close and personal with SG, one of 2 things would happen. The Laser Horn would be used, most likely cutting across the shoulder and into the chest, or Destoroyah would fling SG to the ground with absolute minimal effort.


...Wait, why would Destoroyah be able to fling Space Godzilla to the ground with minimal effort? Space Godzilla has an electric touch. If Destoroyah tries to touch Space Godzilla, it'll get shocked and it's "fling" won't be doing anything to Space Godzilla.

Also, like I said, Destoroyah will never get close to Space Godzilla, since it prefers to keep its distance in fights.

Saying that it can destroy every microb in Destoroyah's body is beyond idiotic. A battle between the two would probably go on for days until eventually SG's crystals are destroyed or its tower is destroyed leaving Destoroyah as the winner.


Like it's been said before, who said that Space Godzilla has to destroy every microbe? All he has to do is make Destoroyah retreat, and then he would win all the same. And that's something that could very easily happen if Space Godzilla inflicts enough damage to Destoroyah.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:23 am

The electric pulses won't prevent crap since Destoroyah took a red Atomic Ray like nothing. The Micro Oxygen ray would probably knock SG on his ass too. Destoroyah did approach Godzilla on more then one occation too. There is no reason to believe he won't do it if they fought. There is no telling how the MOR would even effect SG. I don't see Destoryah retreating unless SG starts firing uber Spiral Rays. Destoroyah got hit with a few if I recall currectly. I doubt SG could take even one.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:40 am

The electric pulses won't prevent crap since Destoroyah took a red Atomic Ray like nothing.


It'll prevent Destoroyah from knocking Space Godzilla down, that's for sure.

And on the off chance that it does knock him down, Space Godzilla has his Gravity Tornado to lift himself right back up like nothing ever happened.

The Micro Oxygen ray would probably knock SG on his ass too.


It hardly did anything to Meltdown Godzilla, so it won't do anything to Space Godzilla either.

Seriously, the Micro-Oxygen Spray is nothing special at all. It's just an average powered Heisei beam. Any damage that it would do to Space Godzilla would be healed in seconds.

Destoroyah did approach Godzilla on more then one occation too.


Um...no. Any time that Destoroyah and Godzilla decided to get close to one another, it was always Godzilla who approached Destoroyah. Destoroyah just stayed in one spot and let it happen.

There is no telling how the MOR would even effect SG.


...Um...Space Godzilla is made up of G-Cells, just like Meltdown Godzilla. The Micro-Oxygen Spray did little more than irritate Meltdown Godzilla. I think it's safe to assume that the MO-Spray won't be doing a damn thing to Space Godzilla.

I don't see Destoryah retreating unless SG starts firing uber Spiral Rays. Destoroyah got hit with a few if I recall currectly.


A few Corona Beams would have a very similar effect on Destoroyah that the uber death rays would. Seeing how the Corona Beams first pierce their target, burrow into the skin, and then explode, the damage that the Corona Beams cause is utterly massive. Even on someone as durable as Destoroyah would eventually go down to the power of the Corona Beams.

I doubt SG could take even one.


Seeing how the uber death rays have a charge time, and that anyone with a brain stem can see those rays coming from a mile away (thanks to Godzilla's spines), Space Godzilla can just reflect them with his shield.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:49 am

I swear SG is the most overrated Toho kaiju. SG was hurt by a regular Atomic Ray. The Spirals killed it. I doubt the shield would hold up against a direct hit from an Uber Spiral Ray.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:52 am

PopInPicsPresents wrote:I swear SG is the most overrated Toho kaiju. SG was hurt by a regular Atomic Ray. The Spirals killed it. I doubt the shield would hold up against a direct hit from an Uber Spiral Ray.


The only reason that the Spirals killed him is because he ran out of energy. He no longer had enough energy to even sustain his regeneration abilities. If Space Godzilla has enough energy coming in, he probably could reflect the uber death rays with his shield.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby miguelnuva » Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:38 am

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
PopInPicsPresents wrote:I swear SG is the most overrated Toho kaiju. SG was hurt by a regular Atomic Ray. The Spirals killed it. I doubt the shield would hold up against a direct hit from an Uber Spiral Ray.


The only reason that the Spirals killed him is because he ran out of energy. He no longer had enough energy to even sustain his regeneration abilities. If Space Godzilla has enough energy coming in, he probably could reflect the uber death rays with his shield.


Wasn't SpaceG barely reflecting the normal blue ray?

And MD Goji's weakest ray> normal goji ray.

When has a red godzilla ray been weaker than a blue Godzilla ray?
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:48 am

Wasn't SpaceG barely reflecting the normal blue ray?


Didn't look like it. Any time that Space Godzilla managed to get his shield up, the ray seemed to be easily reflected, with no signs that Space Godzilla was hurt in any way.

And MD Goji's weakest ray> normal goji ray.


...No. Meltdown Godzilla's beam (under 1190 degrees) < Heisei Godzilla's regular atomic ray

When has a red godzilla ray been weaker than a blue Godzilla ray?


Plenty.

Looking at the explosions that those beams cause, the explosions that Meltdown's regular ray cause are much smaller than the explosions caused by the regular Heisei atomic ray. There's one instance in Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II, when Godzilla is fighting Rodan, and Godzilla fires his ray, causing a HUGE field of sparks to erupt on the ground that the beam was fired on. Whereas in Godzilla vs. Destoroyah, when Godzilla is preforming his triple beam buster on Destoroyah, the first beam that Godzilla fires causes a very tiny explosion that hardly covers half of Destoroyah's chest.

That proves to me that Meltdown Godzilla's beam is weaker than Heisei Godzilla's regular atomic ray.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby miguelnuva » Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:34 am

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
Wasn't SpaceG barely reflecting the normal blue ray?


Didn't look like it. Any time that Space Godzilla managed to get his shield up, the ray seemed to be easily reflected, with no signs that Space Godzilla was hurt in any way.

And MD Goji's weakest ray> normal goji ray.


...No. Meltdown Godzilla's beam (under 1190 degrees) < Heisei Godzilla's regular atomic ray

When has a red godzilla ray been weaker than a blue Godzilla ray?


Plenty.

Looking at the explosions that those beams cause, the explosions that Meltdown's regular ray cause are much smaller than the explosions caused by the regular Heisei atomic ray. There's one instance in Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II, when Godzilla is fighting Rodan, and Godzilla fires his ray, causing a HUGE field of sparks to erupt on the ground that the beam was fired on. Whereas in Godzilla vs. Destoroyah, when Godzilla is preforming his triple beam buster on Destoroyah, the first beam that Godzilla fires causes a very tiny explosion that hardly covers half of Destoroyah's chest.

That proves to me that Meltdown Godzilla's beam is weaker than Heisei Godzilla's regular atomic ray.


Or it proves that Destroyer is more durable then rocks.

More Durable= Less explosions.
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