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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:38 pm

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The only reason that Destoroyah did more damage to Godzilla than Space Godzilla did, was because Godzilla's regeneration was weakened against Destoroyah, whereas against Space Godzilla, his regeneration was at top-notch.


MD Goji's regen wasn't weaker it was just constantly working.


If it was constantly working, then the wounds that the Laser Horn made would have been healed rather quickly.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:41 pm

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
miguelnuva wrote:
GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
The only reason that Destoroyah did more damage to Godzilla than Space Godzilla did, was because Godzilla's regeneration was weakened against Destoroyah, whereas against Space Godzilla, his regeneration was at top-notch.


MD Goji's regen wasn't weaker it was just constantly working.


If it was constantly working, then the wounds that the Laser Horn made would have been healed rather quickly.


Like I said he's regen stops working when he's near meltdown.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:43 pm

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If it was constantly working, then the wounds that the Laser Horn made would have been healed rather quickly.


Like I said he's regen stops working when he's near meltdown.


That's one of the reasons why Heisei Godzilla is stronger than Meltdown Godzilla: His regeneration at least works properly.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:45 pm

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
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If it was constantly working, then the wounds that the Laser Horn made would have been healed rather quickly.


Like I said he's regen stops working when he's near meltdown.


That's one of the reasons why Heisei Godzilla is stronger than Meltdown Godzilla: His regeneration at least works properly.


And once again like I said Meltdowns is actually faster until he gets close to Meltdown. Before then Burning Godzilla's is actually better.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby miguelnuva » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:47 pm

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The only reason that Destoroyah did more damage to Godzilla than Space Godzilla did, was because Godzilla's regeneration was weakened against Destoroyah, whereas against Space Godzilla, his regeneration was at top-notch.


MD Goji's regen wasn't weaker it was just constantly working.


If it was constantly working, then the wounds that the Laser Horn made would have been healed rather quickly.


The wounds did heal otherwise Goji would have lost an arm and his body the white stuff is dried what ever it is.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:50 pm

And once again like I said Meltdowns is actually faster until he gets close to Meltdown. Before then Burning Godzilla's is actually better.


And what proof do you have of this? When he was at "lower temperatures", Meltdown Godzilla wasn't hit by any big weapons where he would put his regeneration to good use.

As I recall, Meltdown Godzilla wasn't at too high of a temperature when Destoroyah sliced him with the Laser Horn. So, going by your logic, with his better regeneration, the wounds of the Laser Horn should have been healed rather quickly.

The wounds did heal otherwise Goji would have lost an arm and his body the white stuff is dried what ever it is.


The wounds were still there. If Godzilla had his regeneration at it's full power, those cuts wouldn't have been there.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:56 pm

Meltdown Godzilla's regen is better then normal Godzilla's because he's regen in put in overdrive, working faster because of all the extra energy in his body he never had when just normal Godzilla, constantly fixing damages his burning form is causing until it reaches it's limit. It takes a lot of energy to keep repairing his body from the burning forms damage for so long until he reaches a point that's too much for his regen.

Even Heisei Godzilla didn't have that much energy to regen for that long. He stopped regenerating in much shorter fights like the one with Spacegodzilla because he didn't have nearly the same amount of energy Burning Godzilla did to last that long. He stopped regenerating after a while because he was running low on energy and saving it for his Atomic Breath. Meltdown Godzilla's regen didn't stop because he ran out of energy it stopped because he reached a point where even the constant repairs couldn't keep up with the damages.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:04 pm

Meltdown Godzilla's regen is better then normal Godzilla's because he's regen in put in overdrive, working faster because of all the extra energy in his body he never had when just normal Godzilla, constantly fixing damages his burning form is causing until it reaches it's limit. It takes a lot of energy to keep repairing his body from the burning forms damage for so long until he reaches a point that's too much for his regen.


No, that's not what I was asking for. I'm saying give me proof from within the movie of Godzilla getting hit by a destructive force, and then healing it faster than Heisei Godzilla would have. I don't care about the science of how fast Meltdown Godzilla had to repair his skin cells, because that was never brought up in the movie. We never heard anyone talk about that, nor did it even look like Godzilla was doing that in the film.

You want to prove to me that Meltdown's regeneration is better, show me an example from the film where he healed a wound that was inflicted on him by another force very fast. Otherwise, seeing how Meltdown never fully healed himself from the Laser Horn, I'm going to stick to saying that his regeneration is weaker than normal Heisei Godzilla.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:13 pm

I have no evidence, it's just opinion. Something I've always felt his regen was faster until near meltdown. A lot of things are up to fan interpretation, this is one of them.

As for the laser horn, that happened when he was near meltdown. His cells couldn't keep up.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby miguelnuva » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:15 pm

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
Meltdown Godzilla's regen is better then normal Godzilla's because he's regen in put in overdrive, working faster because of all the extra energy in his body he never had when just normal Godzilla, constantly fixing damages his burning form is causing until it reaches it's limit. It takes a lot of energy to keep repairing his body from the burning forms damage for so long until he reaches a point that's too much for his regen.


No, that's not what I was asking for. I'm saying give me proof from within the movie of Godzilla getting hit by a destructive force, and then healing it faster than Heisei Godzilla would have. I don't care about the science of how fast Meltdown Godzilla had to repair his skin cells, because that was never brought up in the movie. We never heard anyone talk about that, nor did it even look like Godzilla was doing that in the film.

You want to prove to me that Meltdown's regeneration is better, show me an example from the film where he healed a wound that was inflicted on him by another force very fast. Otherwise, seeing how Meltdown never fully healed himself from the Laser Horn, I'm going to stick to saying that his regeneration is weaker than normal Heisei Godzilla.


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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:21 pm

Living Corpse wrote:I have no evidence, it's just opinion. Something I've always felt his regen was faster until near meltdown. A lot of things are up to fan interpretation, this is one of them.

As for the laser horn, that happened when he was near meltdown. His cells couldn't keep up.


Well, if that's your opinion, then that's fine. You have your own reasoning for why his regeneration is stronger, so okay. I just disagree with you, and believe that, IMO, his regeneration is weaker.

I believe that if Godzilla Heisei was hit by the Laser Horn, he would have a similar reaction (if not the same), but he would heal from the wound almost entirely within a short amount of time (not sure how long, but whatever).
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:34 pm

Yeah, let's just agree to disagree.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:59 am

Doesn't the white liquid produced from the horn render regeneration useless? Anyways, Destoroyah would keep coming back in a battle against Spacegodzilla. Unless Spacegodzilla magically learns how to use Ice Beam, Destoroyah's gonna get in close and manhandle Spacegodzilla.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Legion1979 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:29 am

Do you guys enjoy these movies, or do you all sit around during the battles with notepads and pencils with TK discussion in the back of your mind?

Space Godzila's fight with Godzilla was longer but nowhere near as brutal as Destroyah's. Space Godzilla didn't really do anything to Godzilla to make me think he even had a chance of killing him. He just seemed to knock him down a lot. Destroyah was a jackass who killed Junior with ease (what did Space Godzilla do to Little Godzilla? Nothing) and tried to slice Godzilla open with that horn. Why he didn't use it more often is beyond me, but that was a very potent weapon, better than anything Space Godzilla had, which did nothing more than knock Godzilla over and piss him off. Space Godzilla is only as powerful as his energy source, and once that was cut off he was as good as dead. Destroyah was only overwhelmed and had to flee when Godzilla started meltdown and began basically shooting hyper-radioactivity out his ass. The standard version of Godzilla never would have stood a chance against Destroyah.

Oh and this silly "Burning Godzilla isn't as strong as standard Godzilla" thing still makes no damn sense and seems like random fan assumptions that seem to stubbornly go against what the film is trying to show you.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:47 am

PopInPicsPresents wrote:Doesn't the white liquid produced from the horn render regeneration useless? Anyways, Destoroyah would keep coming back in a battle against Spacegodzilla. Unless Spacegodzilla magically learns how to use Ice Beam, Destoroyah's gonna get in close and manhandle Spacegodzilla.


There still some debate weather or not that stuff is just Godzilla's boiling blood or stuff that came from Destroyah. It doesn't help that this is the only time we see Godzilla bleed except when the SX3 shoots him in the mouth (which was red but that could be because he wasn't near meltdown yet) and when he melts down (where I can't even remember what color the blood is at that time).

Man I love these films, so much that can be interpreted in different ways and so many fun debates resulting from them instead of everyone just saying the same thing.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Shazam14 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:52 am

This is like discussing who has more power between Dr. Doom and Magneto. Lol.

I'd say, in raw power, Spacegodzilla has way more of it. Physically? Destoroyah. The thing about discussing who'd kill Godzilla is in GvSG Godzilla had help, and in GvD Godzilla was way powered up. I do remember Godzilla making Destoroyah cough up blood though.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:43 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:Doesn't the white liquid produced from the horn render regeneration useless? Anyways, Destoroyah would keep coming back in a battle against Spacegodzilla. Unless Spacegodzilla magically learns how to use Ice Beam, Destoroyah's gonna get in close and manhandle Spacegodzilla.


Destoroyah never got close to Godzilla on his own free will, though. Godzilla was the one who always approached Destoroyah, never the other way around. That leads me to believe Destoroyah likes to keep its distance in a fight, and would never like to get up close and personal.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby miguelnuva » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:53 pm

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
PopInPicsPresents wrote:Doesn't the white liquid produced from the horn render regeneration useless? Anyways, Destoroyah would keep coming back in a battle against Spacegodzilla. Unless Spacegodzilla magically learns how to use Ice Beam, Destoroyah's gonna get in close and manhandle Spacegodzilla.


Destoroyah never got close to Godzilla on his own free will, though. Godzilla was the one who always approached Destoroyah, never the other way around. That leads me to believe Destoroyah likes to keep its distance in a fight, and would never like to get up close and personal.


Plus Godzilla allowed half of Destroyer's attacks to get him, Godzilla can't dodge to save his life.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:57 pm

Also, Space Godzilla doesn't need an ice weapon to bring down Destoroyah. Destoroyah has to break down and then reform to become whole again. What's stopping Space Godzilla from attacking Destoroyah's smaller forms when they've broken down, and kill all of the smaller Destoroyah's before they can reform? I mean, the Corona Beam can break into multiple beams, can hit multiple targets, and never missed his target with the Corona Beam. It wouldn't be too hard for Space Godzilla to hit any of the smaller Destoroyah's and kill them in one hit of the Corona Beam.
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Re: Spacegodzilla vs Destoroyah

Postby Shazam14 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:01 pm

Lol let's not make this a FM now.
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