Is Mothra really dead?

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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Goji » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:37 am

The footage of Mothra flying back to Infant Island can clearly be seen on any version of the film. The international version is exactly the same, just with English credits.

The credits are full of unused SPX footage, and I can understand why that can be jarring to some viewers.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Destroyer » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:15 pm

But is that a deleted scene? Cause Hedorah is also shown alive, so looks like he's also back in action.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Goji » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:18 pm

Well yea, since Mothra clearly dies in the film.

That's what I meant by "unused SPX footage". Second-long clips don't amount to what I'd called "deleted scenes".
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Destroyer » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:34 pm

Well then, that's quite annoying definitely. I use to think she came back alive, then Hedorah was alive leading in to a future film, ha.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Goji » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:36 pm

Leave it to Kitamura to end the film by confusing viewers with footage that's out of context.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Rody » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:48 pm

Personally, I was never confused by those scenes. I simply wished some of them had been in the final version of the film.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby ManWithNoName » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:33 am

Yes, Mothra's dead, now go cry and get over it.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby CheetoKamper » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:00 pm

Then I guess that means Hedorah's still alive and Manda is still fighting the Gotengo. No, I'm pretty sure that's just a deleted scene along with Hedorah attacking the city it wasn't put in the final cut of the film but rather than let that scene go to waste as it was obviously finished so they said hey let's put it in the end credits. There is also an extended scene for when Ozaki gets Cpt. Gordon out of his cell where he punches the guard and steals the key card then runs down the hall to the cell. In the actual film Mothra is on fire and flies into Gigan exploding obliterating both monsters Mothra sacrificed it's self. Would it really make sense for Mothra to have survived that and flown back to the island? No, but I'm sure even though that, that Mothra is dead there's probably an egg laying around somewhere.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Patrick Alan » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:21 pm

Actually as the credits rolled at the end of Godzilla Final Wars, Mothra is seen flying back to the Island, so did she really die?
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Goji » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:40 pm

You're not actually reading anything in any of these topics, are you?
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Godzillais#1 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:45 am

Peter said: We all know that back in Final Wars, Gigan set Mothra ablaze with his shotgun laser, then she charged into him causing an explosion that killed both of them in the process. But if we look back at Tokyo SOS, there was two Mothra Larvae. Their mother protected them by sacrificing herself in Godzilla's atomic breath. Both larvae survived, so only one of them had to be the Mothra in Final Wars, right? So my theory is that the Mothra legacy is still alive because of that one larvae that didn't appear after Tokyo S.O.S.



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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Godzilla 1995 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:39 am

Godzillais#1 wrote:Peter said: We all know that back in Final Wars, Gigan set Mothra ablaze with his shotgun laser, then she charged into him causing an explosion that killed both of them in the process. But if we look back at Tokyo SOS, there was two Mothra Larvae. Their mother protected them by sacrificing herself in Godzilla's atomic breath. Both larvae survived, so only one of them had to be the Mothra in Final Wars, right? So my theory is that the Mothra legacy is still alive because of that one larvae that didn't appear after Tokyo S.O.S.



I agree.



Great theory, but there's only one problem with it: SOS isn't connected to GFW.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Shadow » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:57 pm

Godzilla 1995 wrote:
Godzillais#1 wrote:Peter said: We all know that back in Final Wars, Gigan set Mothra ablaze with his shotgun laser, then she charged into him causing an explosion that killed both of them in the process. But if we look back at Tokyo SOS, there was two Mothra Larvae. Their mother protected them by sacrificing herself in Godzilla's atomic breath. Both larvae survived, so only one of them had to be the Mothra in Final Wars, right? So my theory is that the Mothra legacy is still alive because of that one larvae that didn't appear after Tokyo S.O.S.



Great theory, but there's only one problem with it: SOS isn't connected to GFW.


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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby ZillaMaster91 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:39 pm

It always bugs me when I meet people who watch the Godzilla films and believe that ALL the films are related.
In a perfect world that'll be great, but unfortunately that isn't the case....and I have to spend 20 minutes explaining that there are 3 different series, and that the films in the third series are not related to each other except for GxMG and Tokyo SOS, etc.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby edgaguirus » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:17 pm

Look at it this way. Mothra has been and is a popular kaiju that's made money for Toho. That fact alone ensures that Mothra will always be alive in one form or another.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:56 am

Mothra can never die! I know, because when I was a child I would chant that repeatedly while huddled in a corner and sobbing every time she kicked it. :lol:
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby BBanzai » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:59 am

Of course Mothra is not dead. At the end of Rebirth 3 she transforms into "Eternal" Mothra. Eternal, for those who are paying attention, means Forever. Forever means does not end, thus Mothra is Imoortal and not dead.

As with Godzilla, there are multiple Mothras anyway. This is referenced in Rebirth 1 when the Elias state that DesGhidorah was first defeated in the past when there were "many Mothras" to fight it.

I guess we really just need to wait and see if Toho does anything with Mothra, then we'll know for sure.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Goji » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:37 pm

Well, the REBIRTH OF MOTHRA films aren't canon with the Godzilla series, so keep that in mind.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby BBanzai » Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:35 pm

Really?

I did not know that.

Although, I suppose it makes sense given that they do seem to have a completely different feel than the Godzilla movies, but, then again, each era has its own feel too.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby GiganKing2 » Thu May 03, 2012 4:51 pm

Well No because There Were Rebirth Of Mothra Movies (1996-1998) so NOoooOOOokoIOOOooooo!111!!!!!
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