Is Mothra really dead?

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Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Peter » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:42 am

We all know that back in Final Wars, Gigan set Mothra ablaze with his shotgun laser, then she charged into him causing an explosion that killed both of them in the process. But if we look back at Tokyo SOS, there was two Mothra Larvae. Their mother protected them by sacrificing herself in Godzilla's atomic breath. Both larvae survived, so only one of them had to be the Mothra in Final Wars, right? So my theory is that the Mothra legacy is still alive because of that one larvae that didn't appear after Tokyo SOS.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:57 am

Peter wrote:We all know that back in Final Wars, Gigan set Mothra ablaze with his shotgun laser, then she charged into him causing an explosion that killed both of them in the process. But if we look back at Tokyo SOS, there was two Mothra Larvae. Their mother protected them by sacrificing herself in Godzilla's atomic breath. Both larvae survived, so only one of them had to be the Mothra in Final Wars, right? So my theory is that the Mothra legacy is still alive because of that one larvae that didn't appear after Tokyo SOS.

Tokyo SOS and Final Wars don't take place in the same continuity, so the theory is immediately debunked. The only connection is that they use the same Mothra prop, which isn't grounds for an in-canon lineage.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Gojisan866 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:15 pm

Also, supposedly there was a post-credits scene in Final Wars where Mothra is seen flying back to Infant Island... So I've heard... I'm not entirely sure it exists, as I read about it on teh interwebz.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:37 pm

Gojisan866 wrote:Also, supposedly there was a post-credits scene in Final Wars where Mothra is seen flying back to Infant Island... So I've heard... I'm not entirely sure it exists, as I read about it on teh interwebz.

It's there. It's just easy to miss in the montage of other scenes and with the credits playing over it.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Rody » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:14 pm

Technically, it's not post credit; it plays during the credits.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby MothraRocks » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:43 pm

I think that scene is just supposed to add to the whole "Look! Everything is perfect and happy on Earth now!" it doesn't bug me (obviously), but yeah.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby thatsoundman » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:46 pm

I have seen a lot of Mothra through the years and one thing stands out - if there is an adult Mothra then there is an egg someplace to replace it.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby RedZillaKing » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:59 pm

Not here though. Something else Kitamura f***ed up.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby thatsoundman » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:14 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:Not here though. Something else Kitamura f***ed up.


without stretching the imagination too far, it is feasible.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Shadow » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:52 pm

What's this? My sweet Mothra dead? LIAR LIAR ASS ON FIRE! Admit it... you... made it... up.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:57 pm

Battra is better. He doesn't need offspring to replace him, he's just reborn again sometime after dying. :P
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby JKN » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:20 am

Living Corpse wrote:Battra is better. He doesn't need offspring to replace him, he's just reborn again sometime after dying. :P


List on what to do

Try and kill humans
Protect Planet
Knock up Mortha
Die

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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Living Corpse » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:23 am

JKN wrote:
Living Corpse wrote:Battra is better. He doesn't need offspring to replace him, he's just reborn again sometime after dying. :P


List on what to do

Try and kill humans
Protect Planet
Knock up Mortha
Die

Restart Cycle


I wonder if he can stop his change into adult form or at least delay it. It's gotta suck going from armored tank that can give Godzilla a headache to lightly armored moth that needs help from his enemy to take down Godzilla against your will, especially when in the middle of fighting said monster.

Oh well, the bright side of his rebirth is he gets to go back to his badass armored Caterpillar form again.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby JKN » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:54 am

Living Corpse wrote:
JKN wrote:
Living Corpse wrote:Battra is better. He doesn't need offspring to replace him, he's just reborn again sometime after dying. :P


List on what to do

Try and kill humans
Protect Planet
Knock up Mortha
Die

Restart Cycle


I wonder if he can stop his change into adult form or at least delay it. It's gotta suck going from armored tank that can give Godzilla a headache to lightly armored moth that needs help from his enemy to take down Godzilla against your will, especially when in the middle of fighting said monster.

Oh well, the bright side of his rebirth is he gets to go back to his badass armored Caterpillar form again.


Pft he was doing it to impress the lady,
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:32 am

thatsoundman wrote:I have seen a lot of Mothra through the years and one thing stands out - if there is an adult Mothra then there is an egg someplace to replace it.


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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby kaiju115 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:20 pm

In my opinion Final Wars is a different story from Tokyo SOS. Anyway is Mothra really dead, in my opinion, no, at the end credits we see her flying back to the island, so to me that pretty much says it all.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby Living Corpse » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:22 pm

kaiju115 wrote:In my opinion Final Wars is a different story from Tokyo SOS.


Because it IS a different story. :lol:
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby thatsoundman » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:47 pm

TokyoVigilante wrote:
Gojisan866 wrote:Also, supposedly there was a post-credits scene in Final Wars where Mothra is seen flying back to Infant Island... So I've heard... I'm not entirely sure it exists, as I read about it on teh interwebz.

It's there. It's just easy to miss in the montage of other scenes and with the credits playing over it.


Just watched it again and it and some other items are there as well...
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby edgaguirus » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:21 pm

Mothra is always reborn, so you can be sure they'll be another giant moth.
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Re: Is Mothra really dead?

Postby o.supreme » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:42 am

thatsoundman wrote:Just watched it again and it and some other items are there as well...


Is this on the R1 sony release, or only the original Japanese version? (I cant be sure I ever watched after the credits, and I've probably only watched this film 3 or 4 times)
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